New Acer Aspire V Nitro series

This is indeed dumb. Not only USB but also Ethernet, power and HDMI and audio-jack are all together on the right side.
Anyone using the notebook on a desk will have multiple cables sticking out and will have to somehow use a mouse there.

 

That is bullcrap, why did they do that.

 

I can only guess, but perhaps it is easier in terms of wiring, to have the ports all in one place.

if they had at least put one or two to the back of the NB (in the metal part). hard decision. the Y50 70 (from amazon, with the 256 GB SSD) suddenly got quite a bit more interesting, albeit its flaws and disadvantages compared to the VN7-591G. plus quite some owner of the Y50 with the AUO-panel state, that they can live with it, even if its not great.

man, I own a Sony Vaio EB with the outright crappy HD ready panel. it did serve me well over the last five years, though. so I guess the Y50 cannot be worse.

 

I guess this depends on a personal preference, right or left side, but all can be fixed with 15€ usb 3.0 hub that in my opinion is much better than having all your usb slots taken.

 

@SACRed
Y50 screen probably is not worse compared to what you have but it most likely isn't better either. Both screens available in Y50 are quite bad. It sounds like AUO is better until you compare it with the screen used in v5 573G - then it suddenly turns into "less worse".

I also compared the screen of my 4 year old notebook with Y50 and I have to say I'm very disappointed. I thought that AUO in Y50 is not good by today's standards but it turns out it's only marginally better than the screen in my budget Acer I bought in March 2010.

If I had to choose between gaming performance and good screen I'd go for gaming performance. After all you can play a game on a mediocre display as long as it's smooth. On the other hand you can't play a slideshow on a great screen.
But here I would rather not choose an Y50 with poor screen and cooling system to match unless Acer Nitro turns out to be complete crap.

Well not really. You can use a USB hub but it won't help you with headphones jack, Ethernet port, power in or HDMI out being on the right side.
If they really had to cram those port on one side (which I don't think was the case) they could have chosen the left hand side. Most people use mouse with their right hand - even those left-handed like myself. This is quite annoying although it's not a deal-breaker by any means.

 

I actually like this, because when I use it at home it will be hooked up to some external peripherals (hub, speakers and display) and it's pretty handy to connect everything on one side. But the left side would have been better indeed.

I've made my decision. It will be the VN7-591G (well, if the reviews are OK that is!) i7/1TB+128GB model. I've bought a mint condition Dell Latitude E6500 for € 100 to take with me to school next week, so I can wait for the Acer. And the Dell will be a nice back-up machine.

 

The 135 power adapter of the VN7 is the same as used for the Lenovo Y50. Both Notebooks are also practically identical in size and weight, so expect some heavy throttling on the VN7. Before I returned my Y50, I did some experimenting with ThrottleStop: CPU temps went from 47C to 98C in around 8 Minutes without throttling....

I think Acer should have went with the 4510U + GTX 860M to help cooling, but the i5-4210H should at least run a little bit cooler than the i7-4710HQ in the Y50. At this point it's basically a toss-up between the Y50 and the VN7. I am still thinking about getting the Clevo P150SM, because it offers the most bang for the buck, but my last 2 Notebooks were from Clevo and I want to try something new. I think I will just settle for the 999 Euro VN7 due to the good impressions I had with the V5-573G.

1100 Euros for a Notebook with GTX 860M is in my opinion too much to ask for. Especially when we might see the GTX 865M later in october.

 

I guess it differs per country, but € 1100 is a very normal price in my country for an A-brand notebook with GTX 860M and SSD.

And as far as I can tell, Clevo barebones are not cheaper here if you configure them with OS and SSD.

 

A guy in Germany just received his Aspire VN7-791G-759Q (NX.MQREG.004). He reports noisy fans running at full throttle even in idle mode and some moderate CPU throttling under stress tests (2.8>2.5) .Temperature never exceeds 80 degrees though and screen seems to be "awesome".

 

@Cairol

Can you provide a link please?

 

I'll take that with a grain of salt until a proper source is provided indeed.

 

Just found this and its awesome. This is my next laptop!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAtKkwd919U

 

I agree, it looks beautiful. I just wish they will do good job on cooling.

 

not necessarily true. i5 4210H can run as hot as an i7 under normal usage because of its such high default clock speed. the higher the clock speed the more voltage and power it takes to push up, and Haswell has basically little to no efficiency as you get closer to 4ghz. so despite the fact you only have 2 cores, but if your two cores are clocked much higher than a quad core at certain p-states, it's very likely that you'll run equally as hot if not hotter as a quad core.

the thing here we have to remember is that voltage doesn't increase proportionally with clockspeed.

 

as simeone asked for the link of the guy with the VN7-791G:
Acer VN7 Nitro - die neue NB-Serie

perhaps the cooling turbo isn't working like Acer intented it? though idle temps of 50°C sound just horribible. hopefully that guy had just received a laptop with a fault ...
but I almost cannot imagine Acer failing SO hard. if even the 791G has such bad heat management, then the 591G is most probably a total screwup. highly unlikey, IMHO, but not impossible, I have to say.

 

here's the link:

Acer VN7 Nitro - die neue NB-Serie

 

The Aorus has throttling if you leave it flat on a table with no circulation. If you lift it up on a book the throttling is nonexistent. I believe HTWingNut tested that machine and the temps were 10*C lower just by lifting the back end. Alienware had that same issue at one point. Adding a laptop cooler to the Aorus alleviates the issue almost entirely. That machine design probably wasn't thought through entirely though, I agree, but any self-sufficient gamer should know to keep his components under the best possible conditions at all times and keep temps as low as possible. So in the case of the Gigabyte brand here, the Aorus is the easiest to deal with. Can't speak for the other listed machines though. I've heard both great and horrid things about the GS series. People say they get burned using the machine itself and others say it's icy cold no matter how hard they drive'em. :/ Too extreme on both cases for my good tastes...

 

dude do you mind translating LOL? google translate didn't make any sense for me right there

 

rough trnaslation:

0. he received his notebook from cyberport
1. the fans are ALWAYS running, even in idle mode
2. the fans are very noise, even in idle (he says the noise gives you ear cancer, so I assume the fans are very loud)

4. he called acer about it
5. acer was surprised that anyone already had the notebook
6. he thinks/hopes that acer will release a bios update to tone down the fans

maybe he got an unfinished preview-model or something, who knows....

 

thanks man!
loud isn't necessarily bad either, since there are different kinds of loud.

if it's just a high pitched noise, that could be bad since it indicates a small fan which is probably insufficient for cooling

otherwise, if it's just a loud fan, it might as well be producing a high volume of wind which makes up for cooling.

for clevo and msi notebooks, you have to the option to use turbo cool which makes the fans spin at max speed. it gets very loud, but it does the job (at least for clevo, for msi it's not that much of a difference usually)

sure the loud fan under normal usage is problem, but if that loud fan indicates a large high volume fan, it's not really a bad thing to have

 

The laptop is in stock on amazon.de, so reviews might be coming soon.

Pricing seems fair but should drop a bit later on.

I just hope it can at least last 4-5 hours on battery.

 

It's my new laptop for uni, waiting for review to click the purchase button

 

sorry, I just quoted the post, but had no time for a translation. brrrbrack summed it up quite well.

to add things we discussed there later: there exists that Acer tool, which is supposed to be the cooling turbo. as this tool does nothing at the moment (it makes no difference, wheter you activate it or not), this is IMHO a very strong argument for a BIOS-fault. I am pretty sure, Acer fixes this AFAP. or perhaps the owner has just received a Nb with a fault. idle-temps are about 33°C. plus he used XTU to do a stress test: after 20 minutes, the CPU was still at 3,2 GHz (4-cores). so we cann much probably be sure, that the NB can be cooled - if you activate the turbo. eager waiting for other reviews, too.

 

oh? what was his temp like after single stress test?

 

Acer nitro series priced 20% higher than lenovo Y50 here in Norway at least. Acer has better screen (IPS), but still that's a quite large gap.

Hope they successed at cooling and noise at least.

 

Seems that i was wrong Asus g551JM will be available sooner and the price is cheaper than Acer on few website. We will have to wait and see who did better job on cooling consider that they have more or less same specs and same components.

 

Test Update from Germany:

• Further stress tests (only CPU) showed no throttling at all and decent temperatures
• It is in fact an IPS screen: LG Display LP173WF4-SPF1 Overview - Panelook.com
• People expect fan issue to be solved with Bios Update

From my point of view it offers the best all around package at that price point. The IPS screen in a 17" alone is a unique feature that most if not all competitors cannot match.

 

y70 has the IPS panel so that's one on the table

 

I checked lenovo web site "17.3" FHD LED AntiGlare Multitouch with integrated camera (1920x1080)" I don't see IPS here. On Y50 panel is HORRIBLE!!!

 

well, check out the Y70 thread here at NBR. Brian (KlickOnline) told us the panel name of the Y70s he got. same panel as found in the VN7-71G.

to add something to Cairols post: the temps in the stress test never exceeded 80°C. according to Martin (the owner), the temps oscillated between 70 and 79°C the whole 20 minutes he tested. but remember: that was on FULL fan stage. witout fan boost, they should be somewhat higher.

 

Well so far so good - these temps are very good to say the least. I don't mind a noisy laptop when I'm gaming, I just hope it can be quiet when not under load.
We will see if the BIOS update solves this issue.

If this thread is any indication of how much interest can this series stir, Acer is going to be pleased with sales. I've been on this forum for many years and I can tell you that for an announcement made by Acer - this thread is busy.

 

well, I guess there are quite a number of people out there who are aware of the V5 573 - it got really good critics, after all. and even if the VN7-series is priced quite a bit higher (especially the Black Editions), it is a very welcome upgrade of that laptop-series. so yeah, crossing fingers for the BIOS.

 

Since i am also interested i just joined the forums to talk along!

Differences : 128gb ssd (samsung evo 120gb = 60euros here in the netherlands), IPS panel(for me worth more then 40euros), ligher wieghted notebook with a slink design.

Differences of the acer nitro 15inch and 17inch notebooks (for this acer nitro):
- 100euro's
- blue-ray drive (for the black editons)
- lager screen and havier weight (ofcourse)

Now to help to get to people to make the best choise:
So the competators are (for now) the lenovo y50/70, acer aspire nitro and the Asus g551JM wich one would you choose and why (weight, cooling etc.)?
Wich screen size do you prefer for gaming 15.6" or 17.3" and why?
Do you want to take the notebook with you 24/7 for like school?
(i think if we all answer the questions anybody can pick the model that fits its best by his needs, also for people who didnt reply on this thread)

 

God dammit, was about to pull the trigger on the Acer Nitro, but that Asus looks even better (if it can match the screen quality)...who knew that Asus could make affordable laptops....

Edit: wow, this price is gonna be hard to beat: ASUS G551JM 15.6 FHD/ i7-4710/ DVD/ GTX 860M/ 750GB + 8GB/ 8GB/ Win 8.1 for 888,00 €

 

I sure hope the 15" 591G does not have fan issues. I'm not going to wait for a BIOS update which may never see the light if we are unlucky.

 

Nah - no worries. Quite surprisingly - considering they never update drivers - Acer is good at BIOS updates. We will see more than one for sure.

 

yes, pretty damn good price indeed. but I am very courious, what Asus charges for that thing in Germany (my guess: roughly 1000€ at least, maybe even 1100 as for the GL550). plus: the G551 is most likely limited to one 2,5''-SATA-slot for HDD/SSD. at least, if you are not going to replace the ODD.
tough thing. sometimes it's just nice to not have to buy a notebook NOW. I would be totally torn apart between the candidates ...

 

yeah, notebook hunting sucks! by the time the Acer VN is out, i will probably wait for a review of the Asus to be sure and by the time the Asus comes out (End of october from what I read), I might even wait for Broadwell CPUs...

but the Asus G-series is generally considered to be 1 level above the competition, if Asus matches the price of the Acer Nitro somewhat, it's gonna be a super close call...

although I must say the chiclet style keyboard of the Asus looks super sexy

 

I was waiting for light 17'' with IPS for a long time, and please no touchscreen for me At this moment I see no competitors at all:hi2:

 

This might be the new laptop I was looking for. Anyone know of the weight for the 15/17" yet?

 

VN7-591G - 2,4 kg
VN7-571G - 2,4 kg
VN7-791G - 3 kg

According to acer.de specifications.

 

Thanks, I was hoping in the GS60 & GS70 Stealth range but a little over not a big deal.

 

These are identical in weight and dimensions with the Y50.

There isn't a comprehensive review for this yet. But judging by stats, what we know, it seems quite obvious on which has the better package.

I wouldn't exactly put the G551JM in the same category. That is a bulkier laptop.

 

Tomorrow i get the 15" (8gb ram, 1000hd, 128ssd, gtx860m, i7). I hope i can do a small "review" this week for u guys......but my english is not the best

Btw: Is there a good programm for capturing temps and throttle (gpu/cpu) during gaming?

 

any review is better than none and can you post pictures of it? please post a picture of the bottom without the bottom cover if there is one.

 

You can monitor cpu clocks with cpu-z and gpu one's with gpu-z and most temps with HWmonitor.

And could you please tell us how the battery fares.

 

When will it be on market in SEA guys? A guess is ok. I cant wait any longer

 

as others said: if the post is readable by any means, this is sufficient for me. and I am very excited that someone has the laptop at all. so please go ahead.

next to the temps my main concern with the VN7-591G is the noise level plus perhaps CPU-throtteling (if there is some).

to sum this up: happily, but VERY impatiently waiting for your first impressions.

 

This looks so good. I hope the test go over well. 17" IPS with a nice design? Great!

 

Every bit of info is great, I'm looking forward to some photos and your experience with the machine.

VN7 is not available in The Netherlands yet, I had to buy a second hand notebook for now so I can wait for VN7. I hope it will be available soon here.