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    New Acer Aspire V Nitro series

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by G-Force, Aug 13, 2014.

  1. Daft Paolo

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    The M.2 port is one...
    You mean that it can read both? I'm not sure about that...
     
  2. Tsuna1995

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    yup i mean the M.2 port only can read pci-e ssd and there is a sata port if you want to replace the hard disk with an ssd
     
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  3. RDeluxe

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    I get a different error, and seems that my bios is not updated.

    [​IMG]

    But you're right, the bios on Acer website does not have the "S" in the end...
     
  4. Daft Paolo

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    Why you strive to update the bios?
     
  5. Tsuna1995

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    i get that error too when i try to flash the bios from acer website because that bios is for the non secure version of the laptop which is the model of the laptop that doesnt use secure bios . The secure version which is our bios version that has an extra "S" in the id seems like acer havent upload the update to the website yet while the people who buy the laptop last month seems to have the secure version V1.08 already factory flashed to the laptop.
    bios.png
     
  6. Daft Paolo

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    Ok, so you confirm that i need to search for an M2 SSD with pcie bus. They are rare, isn't it?
     
  7. Tsuna1995

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    they look like this. and yea they're kinda hard to find.
    csm_AspireV15_VN7_591G_SSD_7a1ab2dd7f.jpg
     
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    I'm not so sure about that. I did some research when a user asked this question and it ppears to me it's M2 with SATA bus, not with PCIE bus.
    See here.
     
  9. Tsuna1995

    Tsuna1995 Notebook Enthusiast

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    this laptop have both sata port and m2 slot but the m2 slot is pci-e bus when i dissemble my laptop it looks exactly the same like that picture
    View attachment 119461
    csm_AspireV15_VN7_591G_Festplatte_65a00bcb59.jpg

    edit: Its called M.2 pci-e ssd and that slot is specially made to install pci-e ssd
     
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  10. Daft Paolo

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    Ehm, do you know that M2 sataIII and pcie look exactly the same?
     
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  11. Tsuna1995

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    yes i do but its hard to find out which is the correct type M.2 ssd is use but best is to listen to what downloads say
     
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    I sent a email to Acer about the 3 problems that I have with this laptop :

    1. Impossibility to update the bios (why update a unusable bios ?) - Minor
    2. Problem with my M500 and sleep (100% usage + response time = system not usable after waking up from sleep mode). I saw a lot of topics about this. It may be drivers related, it may be BIOS related. - Major
    3. The touchpad. I doubt that this touchpad can't handle 3 fingers gesture, and I can't stand the scrolling delay. I would really like to have a option panel (using Synaptic stock drivers)

    I'll keep you updated.

    Anybody having the same problems with a custom SSD ?

    EDIT : After installing Intel Rapid Storage last drivers, it seems to work correctly. Amen.
     
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  13. sadkloun

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    Two weeks ago, bought a laptop . Replaced the HDD to 2.5' SSD plus add 8 Gb RAM (sum 12 Gb). Clean install windows 8.1 pro . All drivers from the site apart from power management(not need - windows do it better) and touchpad. All good.
     
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    Mine is the vn7 591g 744p (i7, 16GB ram, 256GB ssd + 1TB hdd)

    First thing I did was a win 8.1 fresh install and the drivers from acer website. Now I have an unknown device with this details:

    PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C3A&SUBSYS_09261025&REV_04\3&11583659&0&B0

    I searched for vender 8086 and device 8c3a but could not find any driver for this. anyone can help?
     
  15. Tsuna1995

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    it is the intel mei device the driver can be found here https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=24500&lang=eng
     
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    Acer's upgraded laptops include one with a motion-sensing 3D camera
    Acer is showing up at CES with a lot of laptop upgrades in store, and its Windows PC revamps have a few tricks up their sleeve. By far the highlight of the mix is a new version of the high-end V 17 Nitro that includes an Intel RealSense 3D camera. The depth sensor lets you control games and other supporting apps with hand motions instead of reaching for the trackpad and keyboard. If you're the creative sort, it'll also let you scan your face and other 3D objects for inclusion in games or 3D printing projects. There aren't any major upgrades under the hood, although you're still getting a beefy 17-inch desktop replacement between the quad-core 2.5GHz Core i7 chip, GeForce GTX 860M graphics and combination of solid-state (128GB or 256GB) and spinning hard drive (1TB) storage. You won't have to wait long to give this system a try, as it's shipping in January. However, it's not yet clear what the trick camera adds to the price, if anything.
    Source: Acer's upgraded laptops include one with a motion-sensing 3D camera
    It is really disappointing that my 2 weeks old laptop is already outdated. :(
     
  17. Daft Paolo

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    So... No 960M yet
     
  18. smokarsu84

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    As someone already stated quality control of acer is in fact rather poor . Turns out I had some loose connection on MB causing me those camera issues. Yet no multi-touch on touch pad but managed to enable tapping :) somehow ...
     
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    Mine is the vn7 591g 744p (i7, 16GB ram, 256GB ssd + 1TB hdd)

    I made a win 8.1 fresh install with all drivers installed and updated. Now I have some problems and need your help.

    I have breaks in every game I tested (insurgency, grid 2, euro truck simulator 2). All games run normal but every 5/10min (approximately) the laptop breaks for 2/3s and then return to normality.

    What do you think is the problem? Or if it can be anything how should I analyse whats happening when the breaks occurs? Any program recommended?
     
  20. Tsuna1995

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    Are the games stored on the hard drive or on ssd?
     
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    @xqzt

    Look into the possibility of it being CPU throttling. It might not be the case but it looks like it from the description you gave.
     
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    All games are stored on the 1TB hdd. Never though of this but, appart beign slow, 5400rpm shouldn't be enough?


    What should I do to confirm and to fix this?
     
  23. Tsuna1995

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    5400rpm is enough for most games. The problem might be the wd hard disk power saving mode if your model has wd hard disk or it might be thermal throttling as downloads said.
     
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    ThrottleStop used to work for that. Start with this app.

    One thing it that it won't because you need M2 card not mini PCIE. Secondly it's not a good card to begin with- it's not much of an 802.11ac card if it's a single stream one. Go with an Intel 7260/7265
     
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    I will check the 2 options and report back the conclusions. Thanks
     
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    Hi, i have a 17' version and i'm runing windows 7. I know most people here will recommend to use windows 8.1, but i just like 7 too much. My problem is touchpad. It's terrible overall, but i could live with that, bearing in mind that everything else is perfect for me. But i just can't find any working drivers so that at least scrolling will work. Drivers from acer website just say that they can't found any device to update drivers... Maybe anyone else running win7 and can help me? Many thanks, btw sorry for english!
     
  28. SCARed

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    Well I would feel a lot worse, if they updated the GPU so fast. Nvidia is just announcing the 960M in late January, AFAIK, so I expect laptops with it not before March, with perhaps Clevo being a exception ( P67/50SE-barebone had such a chip already mentioned).

    Best guess anyway: Don't look back, there will always bee something newer and better, once you pulled the trigger. And my 791G does a fine job so far, so I am happy. ;)
     
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    I moved to win8 a couple of months when I bought this laptop. Yes is different, yes everyone was too used to win7 but you should give it a try. In a few months Microsoft will release win10 and will be similar to win8 not to win7. In a few days you will get used to the differences.

    Now I can say that imo is different and is better.
     
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    If you want to... Just disable the Metro Interface... And it will look exactly like Windows 7
     
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    Guys, is there any problem if I add an M2 SSD and use the preinstalled Hybrid Disc (ssdhd) as a storage hard drive?

    Since is not a normal Hard Disk, of course...

    Thanks
     
  32. siluetaz

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    Well guys, i tried win8 for a few days, but i don't know, ir's just not for me i think. I think about giving a try to win10, as it looks like vista / win7 scenario when vista was only so so and then win7 delivered all you want. But i think win10 will be in the end of the year, or i'm wrong? Anyway, as far as i know, touchpad drivers have issues with win8 as well? By the way, what's your temperatures while gaming with 17' version, guys? I tried nba 2k15 and it vent pretty hot for my understanding (~80 and more cpu, gpu pretty hot as well) even though i've read only good opinions bout cooling on this lap. What you think about cooling pad option? Thanks.
     
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    I installed ThrottleStop 6 and saved a log file trying to replicate the breaks during a game (it took +/- 3minutes). Right after one break I went back to the app and stopped the log to analyse it. I don't see any change of the values when the break occured comparing to the previous values. Can I conclude that the problem is not about throttling?

    In the meantime I will try to run the games on the ssd instead of hdd.
     
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    my v17 reached 75 Celsius playing titnfall , didn't try other games till now
     
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    Today i tried put my laptop on a top gear magazine, solved problem 100% :D Temperatures playing nba never reached 80c. So temperatures ok, touchpad... well, i can live with it. Then wifi... Have problems with bad reception as well, will try to read older posts in this thread, maybe i'll find some drivers that can help... Anything else is perfect for me. Damn, i would'nt mind paid some extra money for this laptop if it don't have these stupid issues....
     
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    that wont cause any problems at all. the SSHD will work perfectly as a normal storage drive. in fact it IS a normal HDD-drive, just with some added SSD-cache to speed up operation.
     
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    Moving the games to ssd solved the breaks. Finally!

    Two more questions guys:

    1) The camera has very poor quality. What about yours? I did not install any drivers.

    2) Is there a way to set default keyboard light false on boot? I will use it very few times and I have to turn it off every time I boot the laptop.
     
  38. Tsuna1995

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    The camera is very grainy on mine but in bright area the quality is acceptable. I dont think there is any driver for the webcam since on mine the stock driver they use is the default microsoft driver.
     
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    concerning the keyboard lighting: I don't know a way. perhaps in BIOS. haven't looked there, yet. (plus I haven't searched how to enter BIOS at all ... :eek:)
     
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    I didn't test my camera before format the laptop so I can't compare. Now I have HD WebCam on devices manager recognized by windows drivers and the quality is +/- the same of my previous laptop (bought 8 years old).

    I think that it has to be created at BIOS but my current bios version don't have that option. In fact the BIOS is very simple with only basic operations.
     
  41. Ramzay

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    As was mentioned earlier in this thread, the biggest problem with WiFi isn't the card per se - it's the placement of the antennas.

    You can change the card as many times as you want, it may not help much because of poor antenna placement.
     
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    So I received the VN7-791G-77HR two days ago. Spent a good amount of time updating, uninstalling bloat, setting things up.

    I'll do a full review later on, but so far, here are my impressions:

    *Great screen. Bright, good viewing angles, nice colours
    *Very quiet, even when gaming it doesn't get too loud
    *Bad track pad - hard to use right clicks, and it's hard to move your finger over
    *Thermals are pretty good. After a few hours of playing Dragon Age 2/Mass Effect 3,CPU temps didn't go above 83C, and GPU topped off around 71C
    *Looks good, very sleek. I had a Lenovo Y50 before, and they look very similar from the front
    *No WiFi issues so far, but I'm pretty close to my router, so that may not mean much
    *Default HDD is ok, but I definitely miss an SSD.
     
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    How hard would it be to replace the touchpad? Isn't it a quite standard size? Would it be possible?
     
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    Ok, so for anyone who's thinking about installing Windows 7, here's what I did:

    - First, you'll have to get into the BIOS of the system and change the boot system to "legacy" instead of UEFI (at least that's what I did, so I could get my bootable USB to run)
    -Once you've changed that setting you'll need to change the boot order in the BIOS to make sure that the USB boots first, before the hard drive (I didn't need to do this step because I took out the original hard drive and replaced it with a faster 7200rpm drive, and that didn't have an OS installed on it, so it wouldn't boot up anyways)
    -Turn off the laptop
    -Plug in your bootable USB that has the Windows 7 ISO on it
    -Turn the laptop back on
    -Laptop should detect the usb and begin to load Windows
    -Follow instructions and install Windows 7
    -That's pretty much it....Once it's installed you'll need all the appropriate drivers so that everything functions properly...Here is what I used for the drivers:

    Bluetooth Driver (atheros) --> Acer Website
    Card Reader (realtek) --> Acer Website
    Chipset (Intel) --> Acer Website
    VGA (Intel) --> Acer Website
    VGA (Nvidia) --> Acer Website
    Wireless LAN (Atheros)--> Acer Website (Same insallation file as the bluetooth, so you can use either file, both bluetooth and wifi are installed at the same time, with a single file)
    Intel Usb 3.0 functiionality --> https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...?DwnldID=22824
    Ethernet/LAN --> Realtek

    Intel AMT driver --> the driver from the Acer website kept giving me an error, when I would try and run it, I'm going to try and find the driver from Intel's website and see if that works
    Synaptics Driver --> This driver from Acer's website also didn't work, So I'm going to try and find a driver for this from the Synaptics website...although the touchpad still functions without it

    Other than the two drivers I just mentioned, everything else installed perfectly...and everything seems to be functioning fine so far.

    Also, there was no driver on the Acer website for the webcam...is there a driver available/needed for the webcam?
    Also, I haven't checked but in order the have the hotkeys functioning, I will need to download and install the Acer Launch Manager Application, right?
    [​IMG]
     
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  45. RDeluxe

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    Disable the Metro screen after booting. Or install Classic Shell. Congrats, you know have a Windows 7++ !

    Seriously, just give it a few days. It's 99% the same OS.

    After installing those new Intel Disk Drivers and being able to use the sleep mode again, I must say that I'm pretty happy for now. I would really like to solve this scroll delay problem ... i'm going to boot using an ubuntu live CD to check is this behavior is hardware related.
     
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    This...FTW!! Best way to go about it, install it, set it, forget it :D
     
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    Seriously, when people say they don't like Win8, what they really mean is "I want my classic start menu".
     
  48. downloads

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    This is not a thread about Windows 8. There are quite a few of them and all are problematic. Please stick to the subject.
     
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    Had my laptop for about 3 weeks. Love it (and the wife hates it :))

    Here in Malaysia the 15" was available for about 3 months and 17" just released last week. Price-wise, with weakness of our currency, the 15" was a very good deal (priced similar to the Y50 TN screen Freedos option) and I got a 2y to 3y warranty extension and 3y McAfee subscription for free.

    Acer V Nitro VN7-591G
    i7-4710HQ / 12GB DDR3L / 1TB + 8GB SSHD / Nvidia GTX 860 2GB GDDR5 / 15.6" display with IPS technology, Full HD 1920 x 1080/ / MYR 3399 (USD952)
    Acer V Nitro VN7-791G
    i7-4710HQ / 16GB DDR3L / 1TB + 8GB SSHD / Nvidia GTX 860 4GB GDDR5 / 17.3" display with IPS technology, Full HD 1920 x 1080/ 6X Blu-ray Disc re-writeable / MYR 4299 (USD1024).

    Classic Windows Shell install (not a Win 8.1 fan) but have not removed the bloatware. A M.2 SSD is in the plan :)

    Am also having the wi-fi problems, but with the antenna discoveries and the lack of M.2 Wifi card availability here in Malaysia, I got around it by travelling with a TP-Link Nano router TL-WR702N (MYR59/USD17) set up as a wifi repeater.

    Would like to see better bios options
     
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