New Acer Aspire V Nitro series

CPU is getting those temps. Just reformatted the HD w/ Win10 so fresh drivers. Dusted out both the cooling pad and laptop vents.

 

While the temps are really high and out of control, after some tests, it seems I'm also getting very high temps on CPU...

 

Yeah, something is not right here.

 

You might need to re-paste / reseating of the block. It sounds like there isn't good contact to the heat vents going on and the heat cannot escape.

 

What block? Sorry I'm out of the loop with these terminologies.

 

That can't be done under warranty. My laptop has less than 1 year, none can be done without voiding it's warranty.

I wonder why they did such a poor job with pasting, or if it was supposed to be this way.

4XXX CPUs are hotten than 6XXX countervariants.

 

Does Newegg do rmas within 1 year for overheating?

 

I would just RMA it directly to ACER and they might either fix it or exchange it.

 

Ya they're going to try and fix it. We'll see..

 

Acer has some of the worst policies when it comes to this, I would avoid letting them open it if you have anything sensitive on the HDDs / SSDs.

 

Literally just wiped my HD, and I'm gonna do it again as soon as I get it back.

 

Someone mentioned at some point about the UEFI variable editing method for unlocking the BIOS (more specifically, booting into an EFI Shell and turning on 0x258 or aka I-Page). For my VN7-572G, this did not work.

The awesome user Da Vinci Code of Bios Mods forum had some attempts at modding my BIOS, and after several attempts, managed to get a working modded BIOS that could enable that variable from the BIOS interface. Once enabled, tons of options are revealed:


Also, some random tips:

Acer's support page for this laptop (and maybe other V Nitro models?) has updated firmware for the Touchpad. No idea if it helps (I updated from the stock firmware almost immediately after receiving the laptop) but I imagine it couldn't hurt if you're having touchpad issues (mine's been flawless; saw someone mention issues a few pages back).

You can also update the Intel Management Engine firmware too (no idea what it helps). Firmware can be found here: http://www.win-raid.com/t596f39-Intel-Management-Engine-Drivers-Firmware-amp-System-Tools.html (my VN7-572G uses "Intel ME 11.0 Consumer PCH-LP Firmware"; be sure to read the first post and verify before trying any sort of flashing; probably wouldn't be a bad idea to have a recovery plan mentioned below).

As for BIOS recovery, I've had no luck in finding the recovery BIOS name for crysis recovery. The BIOS chip on my motherboard is soldered on, so the easiest recovery method was to just use a Pomona 5250 clip and a programmer to flash the BIOS back onto the chip. I used a Raspberry Pi for the programmer and hooked the clip on the GPIO pins and used flashrom to interact with the chip (the BIOS chip is a MX25L6405D). I'm not sure backing up the BIOS chip contents is possible without the programmer (the registers were locked on the stock BIOS which meant Intel FPT couldn't dump the chip), and you can't just download the BIOS file from Acer and flash it directly to the chip. TLDR: If you plan to mess with BIOS modding or just want to have recovery for it, buy a programmer, SPI clip, and backup the chip contents safely somewhere.

My VN7-572G didn't come with a M.2 SSD, but it does have the port for it. The stock BIOS shows no indication of this, but an unlocked BIOS shows 3 SATA ports all enabled (one for optical, one for regular HDD/SSD, and the last (technically listed first in BIOS settings) I imagine is for M.2). So I imagine slapping a M.2 SSD in this laptop should just work (you might obviously expect this to be true, but HP apparently on same-model laptops would disable adding a M.2 HDD later if you didn't get it at order time).

The wireless card uses NGFF (I had trouble figuring out what that port was initially). There doesn't appear to be any whitelisting (I replaced my Atheros card temporarily with an Intel 7265 without issue).

To the right of the touchpad (bottom of your palm likely rests exactly in the area); underneath the keyboard and on the motherboard is a button. This button needs to be pressed in for the battery to work properly. On the bottom of the laptop is a screw hole with a battery icon (or what I guess they want to look like a battery; it's the only labeled screw port ). If you open the laptop and put it back together, if nothing else, make sure that screw is in securely. If you can press on the area to the right of the touchpad and hear a button pressing in, that screw isn't secure.

Side-tip to the above, while replacing the HDD, make sure it rests down as far as it can or it will cause the keyboard not to come in-contact with the button. I got annoyed with the existing foam and ripped most of it out since I couldn't quite get the new SSD to sit perfectly with it.

 

Thanks a lot. I just did this to my screen because the old one was damaged

 

I just got a 144 hz monitor to hook up to this game but it's not giving me 144 hz, only 75 max. When adjusting the display it only shows intel integrated 4600 and not the 960m. Not sure what I'm doing wrong - tried both dvi and HDMI.

 

signed up to share this: found a lot of info about and fixes for nitro series fan/disk/hdd issues here:
http://twodev.at/releases/acervn7/

says specifically vn7-791g but probably applies to lots of other vn7 laptops.

 

I have one VN7-792G for about one month .... so far not any issues with perfomance / heating issues.
The only thing i want to check with you guys is the texture on the lid..... Idk if its just mine that is defective, but the lid scratches even by looking at it ... seriously i rather have a less premium looking surface that would last longer than that. Anyone with this issue too?

 

So I had my VN7-792G for around a week finally got my extra stick of ram in so I opened it up and put the ram in and swapped out the standard hdd for my ssd. So my habit with laptops has always been to test the system before completing closing it back up. The system worked fine so I was happy started install windows before putting everything back together, I hit shutdown to shut it off before putting all the screws and the old hdd back in (got a dvd drive HDD caddy for it) and bam it shuts right off. Went through an hour of panic troubleshooting since the system would not work off the battery, it could see the battery and charge the battery but not run on it. I was ticked at myself for breaking it (prob the 400th time I have opened a laptop, first time ever breaking anything), i decide to wait a few weeks then send it in to acer. So I get everything screwed in and reassembled and i am running it later today and i hear the beep that the ac adapter had become unplugged, it had and the system was working on battery. So testing it tonight I discover that without all the screws (or maybe one of them not going to test them all) the system won't run on battery, prob the oddest thing I have ever seen on a laptop. Thought I would share it for anyone else that might run into it.

TLDR system has to have screws in to run off battery.

 

Would any of you recommend getting a Nitro V15 VN7-592g at this point in time? There's a decent deal here in Denmark for one at the moment. It'll be used for carrying to school and gaming.

Specs:

 

@sproghistorie No - not the version with 960M and not now. Acer revealed new notebooks on CES that are based on the most recent generation of nVidia cards - in this price-bracket that would be 1050 and 1050Ti.
Both are much better than 960M and notebooks with those GPUs are supposed to be available starting February.

So if you want to use the notebook for gaming - wait and get a new version. It won't be as cheap, because the one you're looking at now is just an inventory they are trying to shift before the new ones arrive, but it will be a better deal.

 

Yeah I have been looking at the VX 15 and the Inspiron 7567 but they look atrocious in my opinion, I'd like something that looks somewhat professional and that's part of what I like about the Acer Nitro. But you're probably right that it's best to wait it out a bit for the 1050 laptops to become more widespread among manufacturers.

 

I agree on VX 15 - it looks unprofessional with this red WSAD cluster.
As for Insprion - I could live with the looks, but it has a terrible screen and build quality is shoddy.

That said - there will be refreshed Nitro series, or to be exact there already is but only with 1060. There should be some new 15" Nitros with 1050 and 1050Ti rather soon.
I'm on the market for a similar notebook myself, so I'm waiting impatiently as well.

 

I'll wait for now for either the new releases or a really good offer for a used XPS 15 or Zenbook or something similar, thanks for beating some sense into me

 

what's the price? compare it to what the 1050 laptops are suppose to be around and then decide. The 960m is around 15%-20% slower than the 1050, and around half the performance of the 1060. The new 15" v nitro is launching in February and is starting at €1,299 MSRP (so add your countries tax). The cheapest models of the v nitros usually don't have SSD's.

 

It's a good deal for a laptop with those specs here in Denmark but I'm not in a hurry to get one and I'd absolutely hate myself if I were to miss out on a good deal for a 1050 laptop or similar because of my impatience.

 

Hi!

I know there is still a lot of people using this quite good laptop. Recently Intel released new drivers for GPU that unlocks EDID. What it allows is to 'overclock' the refresh rate in our laptops displays! I personally managed do push my display to 100Hz refresh rate.

Here's what you need to do (tutorial for Win8.1).
1. Uninstall previous Intel Graphics driver using Control Panel.
2. Download ZIP version of driver
3. Install this driver using tutorial
4. Download Custom Resolution Utility
5. Edit Detailed Resolutions according to your liking. Do not exceed pixel clock of 240MHz, it seems to be a limit.
6. After saving settings in CRU it is not enough to use restart utility of CRU. You need also to reboot the computer.
7. After reboot select new refresh rate in Windows resolution selection menu.
8. Use this to test new refresh rate. It should look like this:

 

So, the new VN7-593G series are starting to appear on Acer's website and on Amazon.de. I guess it shouldn't take too long aymore. I am very interested in this model, finally a classy looking gaming machine. Sure hope the cooling works well and the prices will be similar to the German prices.

VX15 is an instant no-no. Looks very unprofessional with the red grills on the back.

 

It happened. Coffee just broke into my lappy and now the keyboard doesnt seem to work. Backlit is fine, Powerbutton on the keyboard works fine apart from the keyboard itself. Its visible in device manager.

Replacement?

 

I don't think you can easily replace it, you might need to take things with an official repair shop authorised by them.

Romanian shop wasn't nice with me AT ALL. Many mail exchanges, they had no idea what Optimus is and when windows 10 still had driver problems they pretty much ignored my inquires.

 

Replaced. Received it today. Works great.

I still have a problem with the battery. It's visible in Windows but doesn't seem to work. I read there's some screw which cuts off power or something.

 

There is - but I've no idea how to reconnect it if you've cut the battery already...

 

Done. Works fine now. I used wrong screw.

Anyway, the laptop likes to shut down randomly when using on battery. Sometimes it lasts 30 minutes, other time 30 seconds. Working fine with AC plugged in.

 

Here's the thing

Dantei you are right, there is a button that cuts of power to and from the battery.

Inside the chassis, on the motherboard directly beneath the down and left arrow key, is a button.

This button needs to be pressed down for the motherboard to take or give electricity from the motherboard. For this button to be pressed down, the screw on the other side of the lapto pneeds to be screwed in, 13 cm left from the IO side of the laptop and 11cm from the top where you open the lid.

The screw is next to the hole that resets the battery.

At least that is the case with my Acer ASpire V Nitro VN7-572G Non BE with i7-6500U and GeForce 945M

 

Is anyone else having issues with their inbuilt microphone on their Acer Aspire V Nitro?

Here's samples:

https://1drv.ms/f/s!ApAVjxZr-dQ_gbVNBoTg62xKBKO8IA

(Please don't listen to the entire sample of the Mauritius one, it was created for my french oral And its embarrasing)

It is only an issue on Windows 10 Anniversary Builds 14393 and later, not an issue for Windows 10 November Update 10586.

Does anyone have an idea about how to fix this?

I've posted this on Microsoft Forums, but a Microsoft enginner gave me basic instructions to update driver, roll back driver, reset laptop, Fiddle with sound settings, etc. And then when they didn't work, basically he ignored me again.


Microphone quality is crisp ans one of the best I've heard from a laptop, though not with Builds 14393 and later

 

I have a 592G. What would be the fan settings for a VN7-592G? Where do I find them?
If something doesn't go right with the fans, how do I go back to default?
Thanks!

 

On the recent Acer Aspire V Nitro line of products, the fan control register is in the Embedded Controller (EC)

148 is the write register, so you need to change the value of 148 whereas 149 is the read register. It essentially reports the fan speed from 255-80, with 80 being 100%

150 is the write register for the second fan, and 151 is the read register for the second fan.


If you can't figure it out, simply download Notebook Fan Control, select the profile and you are good to go.

 

Yesterday I have slightly modded my VN7-791G. Did the following:
1) additional cooling holes on the laptop's bottom side, underneath the right fan (see instructions here: ),
2) repasting with Arctic MX-2.

Peak CPU temperature dropped from 97 to 81°C. Fans work significantly quieter. Right fan doesn't start anymore on low load (web surfing, office work).

AIDA64 Stability Test:
CPU 97°C --> 81°C, no throttling
Unigine Valley Benchmark, Turbo Boost disabled (typical game mode):
CPU 81°C --> 73°C
GPU 84°C --> 70°C

I recommend this for everyone.

 

Hi guys.
A local store has the Aspire VN7-593G on sale for $1200 with 16gb of ram and a 256ssd + 1 TB HDD combo.

Seems to offer a lot of value for the money since most other laptops in that price range (at least where I live) Come with either a 1050 or a 1050ti and this has a 1060.

Reviews do also seems great.


Would owners of this device recommend it? I'm going to be using it on a daily basis for both work and fun so it's going to be used for internet browsing and MS office but also for gaming, Photoshop and HD video editing (not on a professional level so I can live with the average color accuracy).

The only thing making me doing is that I have seen some reviews mentioning heat issues. Not that it's shutting the PC down or anything but it does make me worry that it might affect the "life expectancy" of the device. My last laptop lasted me for 7 years and I'm looking for something that's also going to live for several years.

Thx.

 

Like what every other technician says,laptops have protection features that prevent it from overheating, such as shutting down. You say that there is no shutting down issue. That means that the temperatures are in acceptable ranges. Intel rates their mobile Core series CPUs as having a Tjmax of 100C, so you could run it constantly at 90-100C with no issue. Trouble is, manufacturers tend to throttle the CPUs. With my Acer VN7-572g, I have never seen any thermal throttling, only when it reaches 95C.

I wouldn't worry about temperatures, the area most likely at risk is the fan, since running it at a higher speed will wear it out faster, and more dust will collect

In short, I really wouldn't mind. The fan will still last many many years. I have had my laptop fro 6 months now and I expect (and hope) for it to last 10 years. With the proper care and maintenance I believe I can reach it

To add on, I have the mobile Core U processor with a TDP of 15W. When running stress tests, the temperature will go up to 80C. With the GeForce 945M load added on, that rises to 90C. If I get past the 15W limit, I can make my CPU go up to 95C, and that is when it starts throttling.

I have no idea of the thermal status of the HQ 45W CPUs, but I'm assuming acer will have more robust cooling features that are designed to handle the increased power dissipation necessity.

 

You are right. There are three troubles with cooling in most of modern "gaming" laptops:

1. Throttling. We spent our money for the good CPU, but we cannot use its full power. This is a marketing nonsense.

2. Annoying noise. In case of my Acer VN7-791G, the fan is powerful enough, it honestly tries to decrease CPU temp, but cannot, because of bad thermal paste and deficient area of ventilation holes. This is an engineeric nonsense.

3. As to laptop lifetime, the trouble is not in the high temperature itself, the trouble is in the periodic temperature jumps from 20 to 100°C. This accelerates natural thermal degradation/erosion of soldered joints, especially for portable laptop, as laptop's mainboard and body are pretty flexible and bendable. Google for BGA solder joint cracking and about the effect of temperature on this.

By the way, the old laptops, manufactured 10-15 years ago and still alive, didn't have temperatures more than 70-80°C.

So, don't worry about temperatures, if you buy a new laptop every 2-3 years, or if you don't often put it under hard load. But as for laptop that is constantly used for gaming or other heavy work, the probability of fatal failure in 2-3-4 years is very, very high. I worked at electronic repair service years ago, and I know too well about the direct dependency between temperature and durability of electronic components...

 

I'd say its about the evolution of CPUs and Laptop Designs.

laptops a few decades ago, as I understand it, had CPus that merely sipped power. Even desktop CPUs barely cracked 45W until the days of Core 2 and Pentium 4 under stock speeds. Nevertheless, their cooling solution was not very quiet. But the main thing was that CPUs had a constant clock speed, and here's merely an example

So you've got a 1 GHz CPU in a laptop in the 2000s That CPU will likely constantly run at 1GHz, and even if there was some energy saving procedure it would only go down to, say, 450 MHz. Now the idle power consumption is 10W on idle, and if you put it on load it might simply rise to 15W; therefore the cooling solution only has a narrow range of power/heat it has to dissipate.

Modern mobile CPUs, however, have an extremely wide thermal output range. Take the HQ 45W Intel Core CPus, for example. They idle at about 1-2W, but on full load they can reach 50W. Not only does that necessitate a more powerful cooling solution, but the laws of thermodynamics haven't suddenly changed. They've remained the same. Sure, there have been advances in cooling techniques, but it now means that CPUs run at both cooler and hotter temperatures

Now I have the i7-6500U in my laptop, which is a 15W chip. Simply tying this my CPU uses 2W of power. The ambient temperature in my room is 12C, and the CPU is at 25C. At idle, it should be noted that clock speeds are irrelevant; modern CPUs have a wide range of C States, and during a proper idle a large percentage of transisters or whatever in the CPU are turned off, receiving literally 0 volts. I've run the LinX CPU benchmark and my CPU reaches 21W of power. Not only this but the temperature almost instantly rises by 20C, quickly climbing to +30C, and in the end stabilizing at 90C with no throttling. If I ran it now, that is a 60C temperature difference!


I just wanted to ask you a question, Beem Boom

I wasn't aware that the risks of joint failure caused by temperature was so high. Thanks for worrying me about it now

I keep my laptop running almost 24/7, but I tend to take care of it. Here's what I normally do with my laptop:

7am: Ambient Temp: 10C. CPU Temp 20C
I then run 2 VMs s in the background and sdo some other rather resource intensive task, and the CPU ruses and stabilizes to 60C after about 10-20 minutes. The CPU stays at a constant range of 50-65C through out the day, only dropping after 12-15 hours. After that, it drops to 40C quickly, then cools down to 25C after half an hour and I wake up the next day with the temperature at 20C or so


So essentially my laptop is going through one cycle of heating and then cooling, per day. Will this affect the lifespan of my laptop? I really hope it lasts 10 years for me

 

@Che0063

I think you have nothing to worry about, thermal gradient 20~60°C are not so terrible. For comparison: my CPU's TDP is 47 W, the peak is 60 W, plus the video card adds 45 W, and the temperature in the games was 85-90°C before modding. That's why I'm worried.

I think, replacement of thermal paste would not hurt your laptop, but it is not necessary. This, most probably, will reduce the speed of temperature changes and reduce the peak temp on max load. But you should do it only if you are good at it. Otherwise, the temperature may even increase. An example of unsuccessful repasting was posted earlier in this topic:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/new-acer-aspire-v-nitro-series.759420/page-195#post-10164424

 

I definitely recommend repasting CPU and GPU. Today I repasted my 2-year old Acer VN7-791 i7-4720HQ, 960M. I used Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut. I also drilled some additional holes to give the bigger fan more breathing room.

Results are astounding:

• Turbo enabled CPU stress test from AIDA, fans forced at 100% using NFC - before average temp. 93*C, average CPU clock 3160 MHz, after average temp. 69*C clocks 3190 MHz - 24*C difference
• Turbo + GPU stress test, fans 100% - before average CPU temp 95*C, GPU temp 82*C, CPU clock 2576 MHz (lots of throttling), after average CPU temp 85*C, GPU temp 71*C, CPU clock 3100 MHz - big improvement of CPU speed, while reducing temperatures

 

I just re-pasted my VN7-592G last month with ARCTIC MX-4 Thermal Compound Paste and the results have been good. but I want to control my fans. I've tried installing Notebook fan control but there is no profile VN7-592G only for 591G. I used the profile for 591G which didn't work correctly, so I turned off NFC. But my fan seem kind of screwed up, they are not keep the laptop cool as they used to.
Can anyone help me with the NFC profile for my VN7-592G. Would I have to turn off coolboost or turn it on?
Thanks.

 

Did 591G profile work at all? Try to find tutorial on how to make your own profile. There should be 6 variables in Embedded Controller that correspond to fan current speeds, desired speed and override. I could send you my 791G profile, it might work.

Edit: Here is my profile https://goo.gl/27jwMW , put it in C:/Program Files/Notebook FanControl/Configs

 

Guys,

I'm considering on buying a new VN7 with 1060. I've heard there were some problems with overheating but only with the first parts. Is it true?