New Acer Aspire V Nitro series

Oh, thank you.
And do you know what is the model (seagate, western digital..) of that hybrid hard drive?

 

I bought the 128GB SSD + 500GB HD version, so I don't know for sure, but I would guess it's the Seagate ST1000LM014 Solid State Hybrid Drive.

Edit: Reason: The Seagate is by faaaarrrr the most popular hybrid drive in consumer laptops. And was also used in the Acer V5-573G.

 

Because an user says: "The boot time is about 15/30 sec, depends on the "windows mood". If you want real speed buy an SSD." (With the sshd).

I think that 30 second to start the machine (completely off) with the Seagate is so long... I hope he wrongs (or maybe 30 seconds for to restart).

I think the correct time is about 20 seconds.

 

So Acer Aspire V5-573G vs Acer Aspire VN7-571G

Which one would you take, regarding 15'' size?
I mean, is the display in general really worse with the new Nitro series than with the "Silver" edition?

The Nitro has an in-built drive, but has no Displayport, and it is harder to access the components.
And I would buy the one with 840M dedicated graphic card if it is gonna be the new one.

I mean, are there any points in recommending the Nitro series if you don't go for the Black Edition if compared with the V5-573G?

Is the case more sturdy?
I assume that the battery life will be way above the V5 with the same specs due to the larger capacity.

Other than that I see more pros for the V5 actually.

The problem I struggle with is that I would get the VN7 with 128GB SSD for 730€ right away while I would have to pay 799€ for the V5 without a SSD.

What would you recommend?

 

Hey guys,

sorry for the late response. Work is killin me.

I have the laptop for 4 weeks now and iam still very happy with it.

After one month of useing the machine my 1st impression didnt change much.

Still like

Build quality,
Design (even the apple users like it ),
Display (not the best but much better then my old tn display),
Noise (very silent in idle)
Heat (disabled the turbo, cpu and gpu stays <80°)
Performance (not only in games, its just rly nice to use for office stuff, the notebook boots in like 3 seconds and if u click somethin it just opens instantly )....Maybe its just the ssd
After u get used to it the keyboard is fine to
The touchpad is ok to, but i have the same build quality problem like a user mentioned before (right mb has some space until u hit the click). not a problem for me i use it very rarely

I dont like:
The f*** wlan, it just works inconsistently. Some times full speed, sometimes no connection. Iam not the only one who has problems with w8.1 and a atheros wlan chip. I think i will change it with a intel one. Any sugestions?
I still have the feeling there are some drive issues, but i will wait a few weeks for acer updates.

Some ppl could have a problem with connections only on the right side, but for me its perfect.



Edit: Forgot the battery performance. Its 4h office/surfing with battery savin options and display on max. For me its ok to

 

before you change it you should probably figure out the adapter is white-listed, even for the same 7260AC there are different versions customized for different OEM, you can't use another one without whitelisting it in the bios first

 

If you buy the vn7-791g (with the code NX.MQRET.004 or NX.MQRET.007) you will have the "Black Edition" with Seagate st1000lm014. That means the Segate SSHD 1tb. This model:
Seagate Solid State Hybrid ST1000LM014 1TB Laptop Hard Drive - Newegg.com

If you want the pc boot in less than 15/30(very approximate) secs you must buy an SSD. The 8gb cache has not impact on everyday perferormance.

 

Ok, thank you.
Maybe i will buy a samsung evo 500 gb when windows 9 will be released.
For now is enough the Hybrid Seagate.

 

Acer doesn't use whitelisting so that is not a problem as long as he doesn't buy a Wi-Fi card that has been meant to work with Lenovo or HP (there is in the formware of tne card or a pins are inverted - I never bothered to try to figure it out).

Anyway - any stock card will work fine.

 

seems like acer is less of a d!ck when it comes to self-service lol

 

It would be really nice if Acer would sell me this laptop, being in the US and all.

I honestly can't fathom why they've released this in europe, australia, etc, but not here. As far as i can tell wouldnt it just be a simple matter of a different power cable?

Guess its back to waiting for Asus to release the G551 with an IPS display... /sigh...

 

Also not available in UK yet, only Germany as far as I can make out. Cant comment about Australia. Asus GX500 might be out by then!

 

The Asus NX500 already has a price of 2100€ / 2400€. The GX500 should be more expensive then. Not an option.

 

Id consider gx500 over acer only if it was at least 2-3 times better to justify the price. Big outlay though. I guess with this neither being available to me I have to wait regardless...!

 

Hi guys, thank you all for this rich thread. I searched the right notebook for me for about 3 months.
My first choice was the XMG C504 Barebone Notebook but it has been out of stock for more than 1 month and the customer service told me that they didn t know when it would have been available again... So, also thanks to all the informations i found here, 10 days ago i decided to buy the Aspire V Nitro 15 model Vn7-591g-79aa. I'm Italian, it is the only version of the notebook officially available in Italy and then the only available with Italian Layout Keyboard...

After a week of use I'm really happy with it! I only think I will soon add a M.2 SSD like the Crucial M550 to speed it up a bit (when you get used to SSD you can't go back)

I can confirm most of what has been written, but i do not agree on display quality, from what you wrote I expected it to be a lot worse than it is. It is not bad, it needs a bit of calibration but this is not uncommon... And remember: it is Non-Glare! so you cannot compare it with glare ones', they have always more vivid colors but they have also many drawbacks...

It is really silent, you can't hear it in standard use! Powerfull enough for 60 FPS satisfying Dota 2 gaming, gorgeous design, slim, pretty lightweight... It is nearly perfect

Somebody talks about too high temperatures, but try to use a MSI GS60 or a Lenovo Y50 and you will understand what is too hot

The only thing that is really annoying me is the bad WLAN... sometimes it works perfectly but many times it start disconnecting, losing signal, going "limited connection" for absolutely no reason! Any suggestions on how to solve without changing the hardare? It really seems a driver issue...

Please, tell me if you want any other information, I would be glad to repay for all the informations I found here

It is called divine justice most of gorgeous notebooks are available only in USA and maybe in Germany, I think this is the first time in history that a good notebook arrives in Italy before than in USA XD

 

One thing you could try is to turn off power management for the WLAN card. I've had some issues with a different notebook, where the power management didn't work properly when switching from battery to plugged in and it affected the WiFi performance.

Otherwise it's probably about waiting for a driver update from Acer. You could also try to see if the issue is there on other networks - in order to deduce whether it's the card/driver, or whether it's the combination of the card and a specific router, for example.

 

I'll try with the power management but the problem happens the same way while plugged or on battery...

I've yet tryed with 3 different Wi-Fi connections and it happens with all of them... I really do not understand why it goes well for a while and then it become unusable...

 

Good luck waiting for a driver update from Acer. Acer doesn't do driver updates.
What soft of card is it exactly (model) and what driver do you guys have?

As for the power-management solution, I agree - this is worth trying - both in Windows power-profile and in advanced driver settings (in device manager)

 

Sometimes something wonky happens when you wake the laptop up from sleep mode or switch from battery to plugged in. Like the power management doesn't wake the network card up properly.

You could also try downloading a tool like inSSIDer and check your network in comparison with other networks. It can give you an idea of how many WiFi connections there are in your area, and which channels are most congested. If you live in a city, you probably have a lot of networks within range that are all competing for the same bandwidth. You could try setting your router to use the channel with the least competing networks - or just change the channel anyway to see if that makes your connection more stable.

My router supports the 5 GHz band, and the WiFi on my Nitro seems more stable when I connect to that instead of the regular 2.4 GHz band.

It's the Qualcomm Atheros AR5BWB222. Driver is 10.0.0.288, dated April 2014.

 

Try this one - it's the most recent one available at this point 10.0.0.297 WHQL (click Télécharger to download)

 

Ok, all disabled, and yes, same model and driver for me, I try to install suggested drivers right now, thx...

I live in a small town and near there is no wi fi in competition, but from a 1200€ notebook I want good wi-fi management everywhere.... it is a so basic feature...

 

just another semiprofessionel review, but a very nice toe-to-toe-comparison of the 591G and the 791G (and sorry, it's all german again ...):

Im Kurztest: Acer Aspire VN7-791G und Acer Aspire VN7-591G » notebooksbilliger.de Blog

summary: they liked both NBs, but the 791G ist better.
- both with good displays, but the 791G noticable better (color, brightness, viewing angles)
- cooling of the 791G was better, more calm onder full load
- both NBs stayed calm in idle (and surfing and stuff, even HD-videos startet the fans, but there were barely audible).
- 3D-Mark & co. -> ususal values
- bad upgradeability. especially for the 791G -> SSD is beneath the mainboard -> almost complete disassembly for exchange or new SSD

what I personally did find very useful: the size comparison of both laptops. sure, the pure numbers can be found everywhere. but seeing both NBs in one picture next to each other still helps IMHO.

 

so I returned my 591G over the weekend and now I am reaaallly tempted to replace it with the 791G, but I don't really like the price-performance-value of the 791G...1200 Euros for i7 + GTX860M seems a little hefty, and I rather not get the 1100 Euro 791G, because upgrading to SSD seems such a hassle

after some research, I noticed that MSI has been dumping prices on their GE60 (i7 + 860M for 900Euros), GS70 (i7 + 870M for 1200 Euros) and GT60 (i7 + 880M for 1440 Euros)....just in case anyone might be interested, best prices I have seen so far, but MSI notebooks are usually far from being perfect

I'll probably just settle for the 791G, if notebooks with the new nVidia GPUs are released within the 30 day return guarantee, I might return it too....

 

hi,
do you know if the motherboard of VN7-791G does support pci-Express transfer bus to be used with m.2 ssd? on Notebook Test, Laptop Test und News - Notebookcheck.com i discovered that the version with pre-installed ssd uses a Kingston M.2 2280 SSD 128GB SNS8100S3/128G, that appears to support just SATA transfer. since i would like to install the Plextor PX-G256M6e (PCI-E x2) i would like to know it it would use the pci-e bus. otherwise it would be unuseless and i would choose a less expensive m.2 sata ssd
thanx

 

Well, I would be very surprised, if it does. There are only very very few mainboards out there, who do and all I know are desktop ones.

So I wouldn't bet any money on it. Plus every modern SSD is fast enough even via SATA, so far. So spare yourself the money, I would say

 

to answer your question, no.
plus what's the point? you can't boot from PCIe until HM97 is released. using it as a storage drive is just a waste because
1. SATA ssds are much cheaper with insignificant difference
2. right now all the PCIe ssds suck anyways

 

Hey Guys

These questions pertain to the 15'' model.. Not the 17''..

I have been reading through the posts and some people are concerned about the heat... I dont expect the heat management to be great considering the form factor... how does it handle heat against y50? (im aware of the throttling done by the Y50...I don't find that an issue as it doesn't affect performance too much at all.. Concerned about heat standalone )

Externally how hot does it get???

How is the keyboard?? travel?Any issues with missing key strokes?

And its a 1x8gb?

And the display is really that bad? Can't calibrating it a bit help improve the vividity....?

Also... On comparing the notebookcheck reviews of the y50 and the acer nitro.... I find the y50 has higher fps on a couple of comparable games? (bioshock infinite, grid auto sport)

 

Linking to the news article below stating the release and prices of the laptops in US.

Acer V Nitro Black Edition Notebooks Coming To USA

 

pah! when I see those prices, I can clearly tell, the europeans are ripped of. 1200$ for the VN7-591G with 128GB-SSD is roughly 940€ - the same NB does cost 1099€ here. or are those Newegg-prices without VAT?

anyway: nice news - so it is finally coming to NA at last.

 

Can anyone explain why the acer model is performing weaker than y50 in notebookcheck benchmarks..

 

if you look at the benches in games in general, there are often differences. sometimes NB, which are expected to be weaker get higher scores, sometimes it's the other way around.

in 3D-Mark 2013 Fire Strike, the 791G is marginaly on top (Y50 scores 3810 and 3850, the 791G gets 3870). why the Y50 does perform SO much better in Grid (all other 860Ms get around 42 fps on max settings, the Y50 gets 61 - smells like some sort of fault)? no idea next to something gone wrong in the Y50-test. they stated problems with the Grid-bench in the test anyway.

the same in CoD Ghosts - the Y50-70 gets 46 fps @max settings, the other 860Ms (including the Asus G750JM) get only 32 fps.

Bioshock Infinite gets equal fps on both NBs for high setting (ca. 105 fps), but the difference only occurs on max settings.

I would expect similar performance in real life - sorry, I have no real idea where those seldom differences come from.

 

Thanks for trying

I have the y50 and I'm recommending the acer to a friend... Just wanted to make sure there isn't something I'm missing.. Thanks!

 

Can you confirm there is the M.2 slot also in the models that come without Kingston SSD installed (vn7-591g-79aa)? What is the frequency of the ram? Some stores report 1066 MHz, while others 1600 MHz!
I've always had little confidence in Acer, but, currently, this machine seems to be one of the most interesting laptops... and the fact it's also available on the italian market is a kind of miracle

 

US doesn't have VAT, so add 18-20% to get a more fair comparison.

 

oky, that does sound more reasonable. I wasn't sure about the tax stuff - been to the US only once as a kid/teenager. so its roughly 1130€. considering the worse guarantee (you only get one year as standard in the US, don't you?), that does in contradiction to my above post sound rather bad for the US-market.

if you compare the Y50:
Lenovo Y50 (59418226) Gaming Laptop Intel Core i7 4710HQ (2.50GHz) 8GB Memory 1TB HDD 8GB SSD NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M 2GB 15.6" Windows 8.1 64-Bit - Newegg.com

to the VN7-591G:
Acer Aspire V15 Nitro Black Edition VN7-591G-74LK Gaming Laptop Intel Core i7 4710HQ (2.50GHz) 8GB Memory 1TB HDD NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M 2 GB GDDR5 15.6" Windows 8.1 - Newegg.com

those 100$ are a reasonable difference. you get a much better screen right of the shelf plus you get the possibility to add a M.2-SSD. the cooling seems to be on par for both NBs (maybe the Acer even has a slight lead - it's CPU does use its turbo boost, other than the Y50). only downside in my eyes is the prot placement of the VN7-591G. at least ONE port on the left side would have been much much better.

plus: the design of the VN7 is better - you can take that thing with you to the office or to a buiseness meeting without any worries. sleek and elegant, no "gamer kiddy"-stuff (even if the Y50 is not sooo bad, compared to the Alienware-stuff).

 

Ooooh, 4k panel version of the V15. I'm dying to know what panel they're using.

Acer Aspire V15 Nitro Black Edition 4K VN7-591G-70TG Gaming Laptop Intel Core i7 4710HQ (2.50GHz) 16GB Memory 1TB HDD 256GB SSD NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M 2 GB GDDR5 15.6" Windows 8.1 - Newegg.com

 

ACER Aspire V Nitro VN7-591G-77A9 does this laptop have a hybrid disk or two serparate disks?

 

@bva91: Acer is Thermal Throttling, the Lenovo doesn't.

 

I'm on page 22, so sorry if this is answered:

about throttling on battery, it's because battery is too small and can't deliver that much power for normal performance.

 

Does anybody know what is the size of the m.2 ssd?

 

Hi

Thanks a lot...

So it's only the 17'' that doesn't throttle?

Which surface areas get hot... Does it get too uncomfortable..??

And I also read some people saying acer's turbo boost is affected as well??


Sorry for the barrage of questions.. Thanks in advance!

 

well, first of all: the Lenovo doesn't throttel - but it does not use ist turbo boost either. if the CPU-temps reches 65°C (which translates into: any real use of the CPU), the turbo is basically cut off.

for bva91s question: well, in the test at NBC, the VN7-791G did not throttle at all. and in the short test, notebooksbilliger did (a shop, but those guys testing are the ones who runned notebookjournal earlier on), both NBs were not said to throttle.
blog.notebooksbilliger.de/im-kurztest-acer-aspire-vn7-791g-und-acer-aspire-vn7-591g/

yes, the temps on the 591G were a little higher, but not critically yet. and thos temps were achieved with running Prime95+Furmark parallel -> maximum load.

as far as I know, a 80mm M.2 is used. something like this was used by someine to upgrade his VN7-791G:

Crucial M500 240GB, M.2 6Gb/s (CT240M500SSD4) Preisvergleich | Geizhals EU

for the UHD-version of the 591G: interessint. but I don't believe in UHD yet. way to many problems (scaling for icons and stuff, especially for third party programs) and if you want to play games, you have to switch down to FullHD anyway with "only" the GTX860M at hand.

 

Any chance you can explain why the y50 is outperforming the acer in a couple of games in nbc... Bioshock infinite and grid autosport to be exact...

I just wanna make sure there isn't any throttling in the acer which is going unnoticed...

 

I think there was a problem when running the benchmarks with grid autosport on the y50 which was giving spurious results...

 

I can only guess. Next to the problems NBC had with the Y50 and GRID, I found the results of Bioshock with max details very strange - medium and high details give comparable results on the Y50 and the 791G but on max details, the Y50 gains a almost 50% lead? Highly unlikely, IMHO.

 

Well, after yesterday's announcement's for the US versions, I noticed amazon had the 17.3" VN7-791G-77JJ available for ~$1375. I decided to hop on it. As far as i can tell this is the top end model, it has 16gb, 256gb ssd, etc etc. It should be in tommorow sometime, i'll let you guys know my initial impressions. First laptop ive bought in like 7 years LOL. Last one was a clevo that had a 9800m GTS in it, just for hilarity's sake ;-)

 

Thx for the replies

Nbc night be wrong after all.. Hmm..

 

lenovo programmed the EC to leadl turbo, so that doesn't mean acer has a lead in thermal, it just means prema needs to release an unlocked bios.

design wise neither has an edge over the other.

for about $100 you can self-upgrade for a better screen than the stock one in acer.

the only real inarguable advantage vn7 has is upgradability, that you can't get around with. everything else it's a give or take

 

Hi

In what way is the acer laptop more upgradeable??

Also does it have 2 ram slots or 1?

 

It has two slots.

And concerning the upgradability: the Acer has the advantage to have two slots for storage. The 2,5''-bay for HDD and an additional slot for a M.2-SSD. Which really IS a nice thing.

And yes, exchange of the display is a possibility, but not everyone is willing to do that. And it COULD bring issues with the guarantee of the laptop.