Official Acer Aspire 5739G Owner's Lounge

I think all HP ones (both Blue and Green PCB) are without onboard BIOS. You have to softmod them I tried it on one HP didn't work so I just got Dell one with chip installed.

 

Hey guys, i need a help. I got a problem. I got 5739G and Q9000 core2quad but i doesnt run. Can i run it by bios mod?

 

The 5739G doesn't support quad cores, even if it wasn't software limited (bios mod) it doesn't have power design to do so, it would probably overheat constantly and need more powerful power supply assuming motherboard could handle it.

 

are you really? what is the different desing ?

 

There's been discussion in this thread sometime back, but basically it won't work, I think the main reason was that motherboard chip is not designed to be used with quads even though it has capability to do so. I'm using P9700 in mine due to high performance/power factor. Gets 6.4 WEI in Windows 7. The Acer 7738G supports quad core though

 

Oh damn... I always ask people to watch the card, does it has the BIOS chip or not. And at this case I forgot about that. oh damn.

Our laptop has PM45/GM45. This chipset support Core 2 Quad, but if it is the latest revision. We are lucky - we have the first revision of chipset, which doesn`t had Quad processor support included.

How can I make a crisis disk for re-flash sBIOS for my 5739G?

 

the pm45 support natively the core 2 quad (the evetualy limitation is made by manufactor motherboard) but ;

1) you need 120w power supply
2)also with 120W ps it's probably that bios is limited to core2duo for supply lines/tdp limitation.

 

I was thinking with taking one of my older dell 150W supply's and rewiring it for my acer, BUT messing with BIOS and buying quad CPU which might not work even after all of that made me think that it's better to get dell precision M6600 (it uses 240W power supply so yeah crazy power with choice of i7, MXM Type B slot, USB 3.0, sufficient cooling system, etc.) or something close to it if it comes to that. On the other hand so far I didn't have need for that much power so I'm sticking with my acer for a year or so, I would say solid state hard drive from samsung, crucial, ocz, mushkin would be the best improvement if you don't have one yet.

 

Guys, you can congratulate me! I`ve successfully integrated DELL M4000 vBIOS into sBIOS, installed ROMless HP M4000 and my laptop launched! I can see this card in GPU-Z!

Edited: but now I have strange FAN behaviour. It doesn`t spin. Maybe after driver installation it will wokr as it should.

Edited: No. After drivers installation the laptop still doesn`t turn on the fan. I`ll try to re-flash with old sBIOS and vBIOS integrated.

Edited: Flashed sBIOS back to v3310 with integrated M4000 sBIOS. Fan still doesn`t spin when system is in Windows. While it is in BIOS screen - fan spins. What can it be?

 

Do you know the origin of your M4000? If it's HP, you should get an HP vBIOS. Does the AcFanControl work? Sounds a lot like good old MXM incompatibility to me.

 

Yes, it is from HP 8770W. I`ve combined sBIOS of 5739G with vBIOS from 8770w M4000. The situation is as follows: cooler doesn`t spill untill GPu reaches 70C and more. Fan starts to spin only at second speed. When I run Furmark, temperature of the GPU momentally reaches 90C and more, after which I turned off the program.

I`ve tried to use all the vBIOSes that I could found for M4000 - with all of them I hade the same situation. In addition, when M4000 from Hp is installed, ACFanControl sees wrong temperatures of CPU.

So, I`ll try to send this card back and receive a refund for it.

Special thanks to valuxin and his version of phlash16.exe. It helped me to recover bricked BIOS.

 

not a solution but have you tried removing white wire (or whichever controls fan speed) to see if it changes anything, but yeah it's most likely setting or something missing/extra in the BIOS since it controls hardware functions.

 

Try getting this one if it's worth for you: http://www.ebay.com/itm/For-DELL-Pr...073?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae67f99f9
P.S. I know dell uses secondary fan for their video BUT on some models it has one heatpipe also going to main one, if HP is the same way then it somehow thinks that main fan is the video one so it doesn't fire thefan thinking that it still get's cooling from the main one and only does secondary when temps are skyrocket at which point it's too late to cool down both CPU and video card on acer since it has only one fan which only starts to spin at that moment. So I think you're better off with a card that has BIOS chip onboard. Also did you try reheating main chip on your dead card? You can try it in preheated oven if you don't have heatgun ( I think around 400 F for 5 min should do it (with my IR thermometer I wait for chip to get around 200 C, you can find more detailed guides online just search video chip reflow) on HP laptops because of low melting point solder it happens every time fan gets completely clogged and stops moving air through radiator fins. IMPORTANT let it cool slowly inside the oven or after the fan otherwise you'll be back to where you started it. I mean it's useless anyway the way it it right now so why not give it a try.

 

I don`t have money for such things now. Later I`ll pick my old M4000 to a service, that has a BGA rebolling station. That is better than fry the GPU to the absolute death. I`ve tried at once to heat the GPU on other laptop. After that the motherboard was dead. ))) Don`t want to make such experiments again.

Edited - so, I`ve searched for the service near my town. The only one, that has BGA soldering station, asks me 70 EUR only for work. In addition I should get them new 7770M GPU. No, thank you. When I`ll have extra money again, I`ll buy new DELL M4000.

Or a new laptop. Maybe even used, but with SLI/CF.... Blah, blah, blah, just dreaming.

 

Some time have past since I`ve been searching for a backlit keyboard for our laptop. So, with the help of one user from Russian ACER forum I`ve found it!. P/N is 9j.n2b82.00r. The only question is how to power it and which pins are considered to use + or -.

 

Something like this? http://www.gemwon.com/sp7468 from the picture it looks like it has 4 pins which connect into 2 lead wire (on another site and model there are 3 pins to one wire (most likely +, and one pin to second wire (-), and as far as figuring out polarity since it's 5V most likely (can draw power from USB ports for example) you can try both leads really quickly and even if it's reversed it shouldn't damage lights. Also sometimes it shows on the connector somewhere the polarity so maybe you can find it. As long as main connector is in the right place and size

 

I thought the same. In the weekend i`ll try to walk through the service manuals of the laptops, for which this keyboard is intended.

 

If you need schematics for the laptop I recently acquired them, down to the last chip and resistor lol but judging from this listing http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Acer-As...962?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item485e34405a it should work BUT I never rely on description alone.

 

Guys, what do you think about this thing?

 

Updating my situation about HP M4000. So, finally, after 1.5 month the card reached the seller. And guess what? He is saying, that he is unable to make a refund directly to a buyer. What the hell? He wants to change my card and send me another - the "correct one", which one I`ll decide. For example, PR80C DELL M4000. I`m still not opening a dispute, but I`m almost pissed off. Because first of all he was telling me that after he receives a card, I`ll see a full refund. After that the card was so slow in reaching him, and finally, he can`t give me my money back. Damn aliexpress.

If he will not find correct card for me or pushes me to pay extra for it, I`ll open a dispute and make everyone here know, with which seller users should not make any deals.

 

OPEN DISPUTE IMMEDIATELY!!!! I'm sick of them! They are a bunch of effffffin lying bastards! They do exactly this, so you'll overdue the time to open dispute and there - no item and no money! Open dispute and contact AliExpress support as soon as possible! I hope you keep receipt or tracking or something.

It's a small miracle that he actually said that he got it. I had a similar case - was told that he never got the item, and I slapped the tracking info in his face, which was saying - declined by the recipient. Not to mention that I took photos of the package in the post office prior shipping with all the labels and tracking information. Seriously, AliExpress is only for low-cost items. If you want something expensive and it is the only place to get it, well, prepare your nerves and clear your schedule!

 

Damn it. After the job I`ll open a dispute. He`ve had two days to show a solution for me, but he started to talk about item change. That`s not OK for me. I`m ready to pay extra for ebay sellers, but not to those sellers in aliexpress. That was the second and the last purchase there.

Edit: I`ve opened a dispute. It is written "if after 4 days seller do not respond, the dispute will be closed" wait. What about my money than?

 

Hi,
my acer 5739g has issues with it's original 130m video card, screen suddenly freezes, but programs are still running.
So I would like to upgrade it. What video card should i get that does not require soldering/other modifications to hardware?
Would this video card work out of the box? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Firepr...196?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item463922aba4
I am not a gamer so I also would be interested in slower/cheaper alternatives. Not requiring to modify bios would be a plus.
Thank you for your suggestions.

 

This version is cheap enough to buy it. And it will work without any modifications. So you can buy it.

Only one thing, before buying, ask the seller to send you a photos of exact that card, which will be shipped. Just compare it and photo on the ebay`s page. If both are the same, you can buy it.

 

sigizz, have you bought it?

 

So, my new DELL M4000 PR80C is shipped. I`ll receive it in the end of May or June. Ordered it without X-bracket and other useless for me stuff. Now I should buy new thermal pads...

Bought new M4000 in ebay. The seller is great - he was the first who asked which laptop and videocard I`m using just to be ensured that my new card will work with my laptop.

Updated. Guys, Can someone tell me the difference between this and this motherboards?

 

The second might be newer revision, but if you hope for quad support - don't. You have to play with the soldering iron for that.

 

I thought about it too, that it would be a newer revision of PM45. But, anyway, I`ve seen only one circuit diagram book for 5739G so I assume that there isn`t quad support added, as you`ve said too, triturbo.

 

You have to add the quad support circuity manually. It's not a very easy task and loses points each passing day. If you happen to get quad working, I don't know if you'll able to run the latest games, even with high clocked QX9300/QX9200. With high clocked I mean ~3.6GHz and you need quite the cooling for it. Otherwise I think you can get 2.9GHz at most, and that's if you are lucky. Quads run A LOT hotter than the duals when clocked hard. Since you are obviously OK with 16:9 (5739G is 16:9, right), you'll be better off with a new system, there are plenty good ones. It's up to you. Good luck!

 

Even with old GT240M I`m able to play GTAV. And that is on dual core CPU. I`m not planning to due such upgrade even if my motherboard would support quads, because of the heat dissipation. And with M4000 overall performance of my laptop is still enough for me. I don`t need to play GTAV or other performance-hungry game on maxed-out setting, for example. Middle settings are enough for me. And using programs for work is enough for me too.

So with last upgrades with SSD and new HDD I`m happy enough with the performance of the laptop. The only problem now is the GPU heatsink placement. When screws are screwed and GPU is pressed to the heatsink, one end of the GPU chip is covered with thermal paste and heatsink, but another end of the GPU chips is not. That is for M4000. I don`t want to put there a copper shim as it could damage my new M4000, when it arrives. So I have to think about to bent a little bit a heatsink to make it cover the GPU chip fully, not partly, as it is now. But, yeah, it is dangerous too, as it could damage the heat-pipe, as our heat-pipes has a liquid and ceramic capillaries in it.

I`m thinking about buying new laptop for some time, but it is still quiet expensive to me because I want a system with SLI/CrossFire support. I`ve seen eurocom laptop with SLI GTX765M and 2.5 quad core with H/T CU and for 1.5k euro, that would be enough for me. But still, the main question is money.

 

hi guys,

i have problem in OpenCL performance with my new Firepro m5950 1gb gddr5 RED (6770M),
i use sony vegas pro 13 to render the final video project i use the GPU that is musch faster than Cpu...

i have tried amd catalyst, 14.12 , 14.9, 14.4, 13.12 , 13.4, the last version of catalyst from dell and hp website but nothing the GPU doesn't render (gpu doesn't work/load)

the card is very fast for gaming (i tried it) , but i do not care for this use.

i have tried the the ati 5650 red mxm and the dell 5730 red mxm both works very very fast in render (opencl) in vegas pro 13 with all driver amd catalyst

sony vegas pro 13 support all cards that i have tried; gt 240m, ati 5650, 5730, 6770m, firepro m5950..

any suggestion about drivers?
thanks

 

Hello VTS. Sorry, I can`t help with that issue. Not familiar with that.

I`ve received my new M4000. Works like a charm. It seems that my heatsink module behaves strange - heatpipe from GPU makes a heatpipe from CPU heat too. I know it has to be so, because radiators from GPU and CPU are close to each other. But not so dramatically. In weekend I`ll try to take heatpipe and radiator for GPU from old heatsink module. Maybe it will help to reduce the temps. And, as I`ve mentioned before in this thread, the main problem is copper plate for the GPU because of which GPU chip is not covered fully.

The seller from whom i`ve bought this card is a really good person - verry communicative with good support. If someone is interested in buying things from him, just PM me.

Currently my temps are: GPu 76 and CPU 72. And that`s only using Chrome. MSI Afterburner shows, that GPU is loaded on 96% while I`m in chrome.

Edited after 1 minute: oh, that was not chrome. That was lagged Dark Souls II Steam process.

 

VTS, considering your problem. Have your read this already? Additional link: link.

 

thankyou propolkin, I had already seen those posts on the net, but i have not resolve


for the temps,

with the ati 5650 ( max TDP 19-20W) my temp. after 1hour under-load was for the Gpu never go over 58-59°C and the CPU at 64°C,room temperature 19-20°C

with firepro M5950(max TDP 35W) temp. after 1hour under load, GPU max 71°C and CPU max 68-69°C, room temperature 22°C

 

someone has news about these little monsters DX12

http://www.aetina.com.tw/media-center/news/edm20150505/

 

Damn, I have to make a copper mod for a GPU. I have really high temps for my M4000 after load. Does the gap between heatsink plate and GPU cristall is ~1mm?

Why i`m asking, I have a copper square wich is 1 mm thick. I`m afraid of damaging the GPU crystall with excessive pressure.

I`ve seen these cards, but I don`t think that these would be available even on ebay. Too specific stuff, I think. But, maybe, there would be a luck and we shall see them in ebay too.

 

Heatsink mod / copper shims are well worth the effort - my M4000 is rocking along at 900Mhz with Afterburner xD

 

You`ve managed to overclock it and gain a performance from it? I`ve tried to overclock it, but didn`t get any peformance in addition.

By the way, have you screwed-on the card to 100% or 80-90%?

I`ve combined my old and new heatsink modules. Took old heatpipe module for GPU, new cooler and new heatpipe for CPU. Used 1mm thick copper shims for GPU. Didn`t screw it at 100% as I`m affraid of damaging a GPU crystall. Now my highest temps are only: CPU 68, GPU 70. These temps are after running Furmark and CPU Stress test at one time. Cool! I`m absolutelly happy with that results. Now I even can overclock my X9100 C0 DD

 

really, really good temps if you have load both cpu +gpu for 15 minutes with furmark


before the mod what temps you have reached on furmark(gpu +cpu)?

don't be affraid about the gpu die(crystal)and screwed-on the v- card to 100% because the plate of gpu heat pipe is on the spring and can reached any position under pressure

 

Before the mod has been done I`ve had temps on GPU and CPU as follows:

1.CPU - 87 C
2.GPU - don`t know.

I have not tested it under furmark with new (un-combined) heatsink module because when I started a furmark my temps started to increase very quickly and I had to shut down the Furmark.

Using old heatsink module my temps were:

1.CPU 93 C
2. GPU 89 C.

As you can see, these temps are really bad.

 

This is the big one: which set up results in a higher Firestrike score?

1. Standard clock P9700 / overclocked M4000 @900MHz
2. Overclocked X9100 / standard clock M4000

Propolkin?

 

I think the first one gives you more points.

I, currently, have 13216 points in 3Dmark06, if I`m not mistaken.

 

Playing Skyrim on High Setting with graphical mods (Climates of Tamriel, HQ Static Meshes, Realistic Nights, HQ Textures) I almost all the time have 60 FPS and highest GPU temperature was 64°C. Great!

Have not tried ENB yet. I assume that with DOF and SSAO I`ll get 30-40 FPS. Very playable for me.

Damn, so much time have past since this laptop was manufactured and it still kick some modern laptops! I still love it. If only the heatsink module could be capable of cooling 55W TDP GPUs, I could install than M5100.

If I have such temperatures, I`m now thinking about overclocking my CPU to 3.6GHz. Afraid only about its stepping - C0.

 

You should be. Something around 3.2GHz is more likely, for anything more, you must rework the cooling. With the same cooling my X9000 (C0, same as yours, just different FSB) only got to 3.2GHz, while the X9100 E0 - 3.6GHz. Quite the difference.

 

Hmmm, than I will not overclock it. Most of all performance or its 3.06 GHz is enough. Let it be cooled instead of be overclocked - it is better than nothing or overheated X9100 because of overclocking.

 

Swap the fan - this is literary the easiest way to get more out of your system.

 

You mean for that from MSI?

 

Don't know your housing's size, but yes, it's the best bet. There are bigger than this, but I doubt that there would be enough space.

 

Yeah, I remember about that fan. I wanted to buy it too, when I was buying new thermal module. Maybe in the future I`ll buy that from MSI, but only in case of overclocking.

 

It seems it the right time to move from AS5 to Phobya NanoGrease Extreme. Does it really have 16 W/mk thermal conductivity? Have anyone tried it already?