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    Official Acer Aspire 5739G Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by tuηay, Jun 21, 2011.

  1. tuηay

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    Removeable? You mean from the heatsink/pipe? It is from mobo, that's for sure :D
     
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    ill cut a 120mm hole in the buttom and put 120mm fan in the buttom am sure that will fix all my heat problems, if i had any,

    but i pretty much hooked the acer up to my 24" samsung been playing wow and bfbc2 and its been doing good, so i might get that 6770m and keep the e1705 as a laptop. muhaaa

    but as far for the quad-core support with the 5739g i strongly belive, its a bios lock, so i might be the crazy person and pick up a retail Q9100 and try it, i seem to have good luck with computer's and i try to figure it out,

    but the reason i say the 7738g i belive is the model number and the 5739g is because they have the same specs and looks just alike to a T, and thats why i am wondering if the bios is the same, or close to it, the only different is bigger screen, and case. from what i have seen, unless the heatsink is like 5x times bigger

    i just need to figure out the total wattage for the system right now at stock and then figure out the wattage for the quad-core+6770m because it might be a power shortage, so might need a 120watt brick or 130watt brick, which i have 120warr brick, which i can test out,

    see i am use to dealing with desktops of 800-1000watts psu's not 90-130watt bricks, i am not use to small laptops, i am use to big desktops, where heat and space is not a problem, so thats why i will think out side of the box or around the box
     
  3. tuηay

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    If you pick up a retail Quad Core then we can confirm that ES is the problem. But I really don't think so, people don't repond my threads because what we ask for is not a easy task and they come up with things like that..
     
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    My fan is held onto it's shroud by 3 screws. The same goes for the 6935g and 5935g fans, so I think its pretty common for our gen of laptop.
     
  5. tuηay

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    5739G is also hold by 3 :)
     
  6. Gulkor

    Gulkor Notebook Consultant

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    i am going to do a little digging into both laptop's and there motherboard's and layout, and a detailed diagram of both motherboard's, and get a few programs and runs some test, and see what i come up with.
     
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    Well I have never seen a laptop with as many power phases as mine (unless its a high end gaming machine).
     
  8. tuηay

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    I would get a 7738g, if it was 15,6"....... :D
     
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    It's only 10% heavier than the 16" machines and it can fit a 1080p display which they can't.
     
  10. tuηay

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    I know, but again, I have a Qosmio with Quad and 9800M GTX if I wanted a 17" I would used my Qosmio..
     
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    Yeah but my 6770 is faster than your 9800M GTX.
     
  12. tuηay

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    I have harman kadron surround system with 4 speakers and a subboofer, you don't or you have, but the sound quality in my and your laptop is not near as good as my Qosmio ;)

    oh also my Qosmio is 3 years old now, almost keep that in mind :)
     
  13. Gulkor

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    ok to report my findings on the acer 7738g and acer 5739g they are in fact the same, but for a few different small details,

    for starters the case is bigger, the srcreen,the motherboard, the heatstink is the same, but it is made a little different not much, everything else is the same,

    the bios is phonix 1.03v both the 5739g and 7738g, i have both manuals and have went thru both and looked over both,

    now if wrost case we can only use a cpu with 6mb, there is a quad for laptops they made

    specs 2.00/6mb/1066

    link Intel Core 2 Quad Q9000 processor - AW80581GH0416M (BX80581Q9000)
     
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    The same, unless you count them being on an entirely different PCB.
     
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    i looked at that to, they have that in the manual, its the chipset is what matter's or they locked the bios, the gm45 and pm45 supports Quad-core cpus, i have looked it up, i have been looking at google for the past 4 hours now lol
     
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    Yes, so considering they have the SB on a different side of the motherboard, mem slots not the same, CPU socket area not the same, different MXM mounting scheme, different CPU power circuitry, I have 2 hard drives etc. I think it's safe to say the motherboards are different.
     
  17. Gulkor

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    we'll i did say they are different motherboard 3 post above, it does not mean the bios wont work, i am trying to help, and it seems like you are stating the obvious,
     
  18. Meaker@Sager

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    You said they are the same but for small details, a different PCB layout and potentially component differences are not small. I just dont want anyone bricking their machine.
     
  19. tuηay

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    Meaker, does not your Q9200 have 12MB Cache?
     
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    Okay guys, first off this isin't a joke. I have been playing GTA IV for 13 (!)hours, non stop! Almost 14... All to find the max temprature and get a feeling of how this laptops act under full load..

    It was a kind off test you know.. I started off with 4 laptops.

    As follow:
    1. My Alienware M11x
    2. My ASUS laptop hooked up with my TV
    3. My Awesome powerfull HP DV5 series
    4. My Acer 5739G

    It is done as follow. I have a backup of GTA IV (steam) on my external drive, so I installed Steam on all of my laptops and restored GTA IV on my same account.. Then I started all four right after each other, as I write this post it has been 15 hours.. I did start right after dinner yesterday, clock now is 10:08 AM. All four laptops was on my table and not blowing air into each other, I was carefull with that.

    However, M11x and my ASUS soon fell out of the play, about after 3 or 4 hours.. First the ASUS, the game froze and it got kicked from the server due to 'low FPS' it then out of the blue unfreeze but it was too late.. Not long after that the Alienware crashed, it got pretty hot.. Both of them out my lovely HP and ACER did stay stable.. After hours of driving around in LC, mostly free mode so all four cold sit in a car and drive the same route around I desiced to restart both my HP and ACER and check the tempratures, both were OK. I gave them a restart and then immidietly started playing again. Don't forget that my HP is able to play the game at High Texture, rest medium I get a good 20-30 FPS. On my ACER however, everything at low and possible OFF is OFF. 20-30 FPS.

    Now to the result, both of the laptops got very hot. Both of them were uncomfortable to either play or write at because palmrest got damn hot.. My HP's touchpad started to fail from time to time, on my ACER however Finger Print reader got crazy :D

    I have here created a image with max tempratures of both laptops and OC information...
     

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    Yeah the Q9200 is 12mb.
     
  22. Nik 7

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    Hello, I'm a new user and I own a 5739G, I noticed that this notebook can be overclocked, so I went to read how to change the bios with an unlocked, but on the guide posted by akbisw (flash bios in dos mode), I cannot figure out where you put the image of modified bios. Where does I put the image, on the USB stick along with the dos?
    Sorry for the language, I'm Italian. :D :D
     
  23. akbisw

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    I have wanting to learn Italian, just for Assassins Creed lol. but i havent modded my bios yet, im sure Tunay will help you out. I only upgraded couple things in it to make it the beastly gaming laptop I have always wanted. went from a low end gaming machine to moderately high gaming machine.
     
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    Hi there!
    My name is Damian. I'm 18 and I'm from Poland so at begins- i want to apologize for my bad english :).
    First of all- i have some problem with OC my Acer 5739g. I have version with P7450 C2D and i cant figure it out how i can OC that!
    I am trying with tutorial in 72 post but it doesnt work.
    Ohhh. I have forgot- yes, I have install moded BIOS.
    Looking forward for response :).
     
  25. tuηay

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    Hello and welcome :)

    akbisw, ofcourse I'm will, cause I nice :)

    I'll go straight ahead and tell you how to do this...

    Okay listen,

    Download this file I have here.
    Unlimited free file storage and free file hosting
    Take everything out of BIOS rar to root of your flash drive. Then boot in to it and type phlash16.exe

    DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING IN RAR FILE I GAVE YOU!!!

    then your laptop will start biiping and flashing DONT TOUCH IT. let it finish it will REBOOT after some time.

    Let me know how it goes.

    Password for download is: tunay

    Here is how to create bootable flash drive (aka. DOS)
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/ace...enix-bios-bios-mod-request-7.html#post6280013

    Hey there Damian! :)
    First off all, to follow guide on post 72 you need to have the costum BIOS (aka. modified BIOS). You can do that as I wrote above...

    Then you have to download SETFSB here http://www13.plala.or.jp/setfsb/download/ver22/setfsb_2_2_134_98.zip and follow the rest of the guide...

    ---

    Let me know if there is anything guys, and don't forget that I take no responsibility if something goes wrong (Both BIOS and Overclocking), you get attacked by a dog or your wife or girlfriend leaves you because you have so much fun with overclocking etc. etc. etc. :D
     
  26. Daraq

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    Hi Tunay :).
    I have custom bios from this topic, i have downloaded setfsb from the website, i have changed bios options like in tutorial. When I turning on SetFSB and chose my Clock Generator and GET FSB I have only something like this:
    [​IMG]
    If i change 4 to 5 i have @ 2,6 ghz and BSOD... I don't wanna think what gonna happen' If i change for 6 ;).
     
  27. tuηay

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    Ah - that stinks.. Well, I tried a P8400 in my laptop and those are impossible to overclock due to low voltage for powersaving.. What you can try is to go in to BIOS again and disable one of the cores and then try to silde 5.. Most likely it will work, but you'll have single core which perform worse then stock both enabled. At this point you have two options 1. increase voltage on CPU (Don't know if it is even possible with our modeles, I failed.) 2. upgrade your CPU. You can pick off a T6600 really cheap from eBay, Gulkor got it stable to 3Ghz. Also, are your RAM sticks stock or upgraded?

    We failed to upgrade to Quad Core, but we are working on it :)
     
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    Some motherboards might have a different clock generator.
     
  29. Daraq

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    Oh. Crappy situation :). Thaks for help! :) From this time i think it is my favourite forum!
    I found C2D T6600 on polish eBay (allegro.pl) for 69 zlotys (it's something about 20$).
    I am wondering about last thing. How user akbisw added to his 5739g ATI6770m? I heard card to laptop must be dedicated to model.
    How is it?
     
  30. Gulkor

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    @Daraq its because of a few reason's i will a few of them, 1 of them could be the cpu need more voltage to push a higher clock/fsb or that the chipset needs more voltage to push from 1066 to 1333, or because the ram is not made for clocks past 533 aka 1066

    a BSOD is a good sign of not enough voltage to the cpu or northbridge or the memory cant go past 533

    Now for my case when i tried for 3.6 my cpu needed some more voltage, which if i can find a program i will be rolling around with a 3.6 cpu in my laptop.

    @Meaker 5739g have the same motherboard's, i can show a link if needed of where i found the PLL to get the right fsb/ram/pci-e/pci
     
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    The 5739G (must be G at the end, you are right, the integrated non G does not) has a MXM graphics slot.

    It's MXM-A to be more specific which the 6770M is.

    @Gulkor Even when I downloaded the technical documents for the 5935g and it showed an SLG clock generator, I handled a motherboard with a ICS clock generator. So it can happen.
     
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    Ok I did it, now I have the bios modded though, but the overclocking doesn't work, after having raised the fsb I get a BSOD ... now I have the 5739G with the Intel P8700 ... What could be causing this?
     
  33. Gulkor

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    cpu needs more voltage.
     
  34. tuηay

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    I think you guys found the answers by your self :)

    P8700 is a low watt CPU, and as in my case those are almost impossible to overclock at stock voltage. Nik 7 and Daraq have the same issue in this case. Daraq, that is a good deal, 20$ is almost nothing and worth a shot.. Meaker, sorted out that with GPU as it seems.. Feel free to ask if there is anything else..
     
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    Ok, but I also have an intel T7500. It might work better in overclocking? :notworthy: :notworthy:
     
  36. tuηay

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    It will work better then your P-series CPU.. that is for sure, I would give it a shot if I were you :)
     
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    P8700 is 1066mhz fsb, the chipset might not like a 1333mhz fsb for one.

    Getting a T6600 or similar might be the best bet since the laptop is capable of 1066mhz speeds.
     
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    And the T9600 how much it could be overclocked? :D :D
     
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    I actually have the T9600 in my HP. But I have not tried that in my Acer.. I don't know, but at 1333Mhz it would be up at 3.30Ghz.. Not any higer than that is possible, because of your RAM.
     
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    But the T9600 at 1066 mhz of fsb should get to 3 ghz right? :confused:
     
  41. tuηay

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    Yes it has 1066, you can overclock to 333 FSB which gives you 333*10=3 330. The big question is, will it be stable.. you'll never know before you try..
     
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    Hey there guys, I have a question that I dont seem to understand. Why are the core temps of the cpu so distant from each other?
    Look at the pic below. Idle(left) vs Load(right column)
    [​IMG]
    Edit: I know you all are jealous of my drawing skillz /s.
     
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    Well it could be down to the application of thermal paste, load balancing of the application run, or inaccuracy of the onboard temperature sensors.
     
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    This. 10. char
     
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    Hey again, is there a way to set the voltage for the processor permanently? I have the modded bios :)
     
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    AFAIK the only way is to get throttlestop to start up with the machine.
     
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    You're talking about undervolt? :D I want to overvlot :D
     
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    Throttlestop lets me overvolt. Even let me without an extreme edition (not that there was any point).
     
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    huh? I was not able to overvolt my P8400. But yet again maybe because it is a P CPU..

    However, I recived my antennas and keyboard today. I also grabbed a T9900 which got shipped today arriving friday or monday..
     
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    How much for T9900? lol. Did u have to rob the bank?
     
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