Should I get a 1410 or a 3810TZ

Looking to pick up a laptop/netbook very soon and I am pretty much sold on going with the 3810TZ but now I am seeing a lot of talk about the 1410, which unless I am mistaken, is lighter than the 3810TZ, smaller, faster (not by much but has a 3500 cpu vs the 2700) and cheaper (450, vs best deal I can find on 3810 which is 550). Same features/memory/etc?

Any actual knowledge of when the 1410 will be released? I need it very soon (for a trip in a few weeks) and i cant tell from reading these forums if it will be out then or not until october.....

Any thoughts on one vs the other?

 

if its for traveling i'd get the 11-inch timeline...

still, the 13" is really small/light
i've had the acer 751h (almost same size as 1410) and now im using a 3810t

 

There is no reason to chose 3810tz in that configuration if you can get a 1410 IMO
Same screen resolution, slower, heavier, more expensive.

 

1 vote for 1410

 

yup, im sticking to the 3810t (with su9400) after realizing that the 4810tz (su2700) i had before couldn't run decently all i needed

 

I ordered a 3810TZ for $480 shipped 1 day before the 1410 was announced. I don't really regret it, but yes the 1410 will be about 10% faster, 200g lighter, and 2" smaller.

In my situation, I needed it for school, and needed to have it in person to transfer my data from my old laptop before I went off to school, so it had to arrive in a certain timeframe. I had been waiting for the 1810T (1410) all along, but in the end due to time constraints I had to settle for the 3810TZ. I feel like you are in a similar predicament, so I'd suggest the 3810TZ because nobody can confirm a release date for the 1410 yet.

 

Where did you get your 3810TZ for 480?

 

$549.99 TigerDirect + $1.99 S&H + $69 Bing Cashback

no Cali taxes either, thank goodness

 

Just called acer...didnt sound like there was any possibility at all that it would be coming out in the next couple weeks....so....it will probably be a 3810 for me.

 

nice, not sure how I missed that...

 

I would get the 3810. If you have ever worked on a 11" screen for very long you realize fast that you will want the larger screen. I find that a 13" screen is just at the right balance between full blown workstation and lightweight travel notebook.
I have a M4400 and the Timeline 3820T. M4400 is my day to day workstation and the Timeline is my travel/ meeting notebook (yes it fits on an airline tray in economy) I pull average 7-8 hours on it with light surfing, work, excell, sql etc. I watched 2 full movies (DVD ISO) on a flight from DC to LA last week, still have 30% battery left.

I have had a Fujitsu 1610 and s X200s in the last few years and as nice as the small screen is, i find it hard to look at for very long. the 13" seems just about right. And you get a nice size keyboard.

 

I prefer 11.6" for portability and occasional use on the go. If I would be working longer than 2/3 hours I would prefer 13".

 

just pulled the trigger on the 3810TZ. Hopefully the processor will be sufficient for my needs.

Wound up getting it from tiger direct for 549.99 minus 69 (bing) minus 20 (paypal cash back promotion) plus 1.99 for shipping. Great deal IMO. If the 1410 was available now then i dont know what i would have done...but as we like to say in the IT business "shipping is a feature"

Now to find myself a copy of windows 7...

 

The 1410T is smaller, lighter, faster, and cheaper. By going with the larger screen, you're not getting a bigger keyboard or a higher res screen....so....what's the point?

Oh...my bad. Good luck with the 3810TZ. I was willing to wait, so I went 1410T over the 3810TZ.

 

a bigger screen is more comfortable to work on for longer hours, in my opinion.

If the 3810 would weigh 1.4kg I would be buying it.

 

How is the 1410TZ faster than the 3810TZ? 100MHz difference is really nothing plus the 3810TZ comes with 2 more gigs of ram than the 1410T which that will actually make it faster.

 

I think the perf. diff. b/w the U2700 and the U3500 will be minimal (I saw a bench that was about 10%), but keep in mind if your software isn't using up that full 4GB of RAM, the extra memory space doesn't make the computer any faster...

That said, I also believe the 200g difference between the 1.4kg 1410 and the 1.6kg 3810TZ is going to be barely noticable as well. Hold a box of 200 paperclips. Yeah, it's that light.

At these price points (about $460 for either 1410 or 3810TZ), it's up to your preference for screen size, RAM amount, styling, battery life, etc.

 

Actually, the smaller you get, the more of a difference seemingly minimal weight differences make. I dunno, half a pound isn't minimal, at that point, its over 15% weight reduction. Besides, the 11" chassis is less bulky than the 13".

I dunno, maybe I'm biased since my main notebook is a 13"er, but my goal in purchasing a new laptop was to get something really small, and getting a 13"er, even one half a pound lighter than mine, would have been defeating the point.

Also, with a single core processor, I think a 10% speed bump would mean 10% less circumstances of me finding my computer slow. Just my personal opinion, anyways.

 

lol Redline I'm coming from the opposite--I have a bulky 7+ pound Dell brick so half a pound difference is nothing for me, and 13" is smaller than what I'm used to already.

 

Fair enough then, you probably won't notice a difference at all. Quite a big difference in portability either way.

 

Pretty sure that the 1410TZ will be my next computer. I went from a 17" Dell beast to a 10" Asus 1000he. I really liked the netbook, but the low resolution (not screen size) and crappy GMA950 graphics killed it for me. Bought a Dell XPS 1340, and really like that, but the battery life isn't fantastic, and I need a bit less depth. The dork in front of me on the last flight insisted on reclining, and even though I was in business class, I still had to put the bottom of the laptop against my gut so I could see the screen. At 6'8" I'm at a steep angle to the screen already, so when I lose that extra couple of inches of personal space, I really can't use the laptop. Wasn't a problem with the Asus, and I'm thinking the 1410TZ will have enough power for me, but also still work with the restrictions of my largeness. But then, I'll probably never be happy... Need a better-than-Atom processor, Ion graphics, 11" screen, 6+hrs battery life, and I'd finally be happy, at least for 3 months. The 1410TZ might be as close as I get to that, at least for the immediate future.

 

I was faced with the same decision last week and went with the 3810T (SU3500, 4GB, 320GB) from NewEgg for $600. The more I read about it (I think I've exhausted the internet's source of information about this laptop) the happier I get with my decision (note: it's delivered tomorrow).

Timing was a big factor for me. Had I been making this decision now, seeing the new information about the 1410, I don't know that I would have decided the same thing. However, I do look forward to a larger than 11" screen (having seen an AOD751).

Hope this helps (but again, it was timing for me: I needed the laptop sooner than the 1410 would show up).

 

My 3810 shows up tomorrow too

I was also frustrated Acer didn't release the 11" CULV in time for back-to-school.

 

My 1410T comes....I have no idea, actually. Neither do they. (Borat voice) High five, very niiiice!

 

Sounds exactly like what I'm searching for (a backlighted keyboard wouldn't hurt, either). I might even settle for 12", but even then, the graphics are still not discrete (e.g. Dell E4200, HP 2530p..). Is it so hard to put some basic Nvidia/ATI card in those? Something around 2000-2500 3DMark 2006 would do just fine.

I already have a Dell M6400 and it's great, but I need something extra portable with a good battery life and decent 3D capabilities (decent = much better than Intel 4500 series) for some smaller trips, airplane flights, etc.

Right now an 3810T with an ATI 4330 sounds like it has the best price/what-you-get ratio, although it comes with Core 2 Solo.. But it's maybe a tad too big. I actually like Aspire 3935 more (better materials and CPU options), but it doesn't come with a discrete GPU (yet - any news on that, maybe?).

I actually found the Fujitsu Siemens Sa3650 with the Graphics Booster included for an acceptable price. The only problem is the laptop itself - the design is horrendous (if it was only available in that matt grey option the other models of the same design have instead of this atrocious gloss white - looks like a toy) and it weighs a ton!

 

It's not hard to put a basic dedicated gpu into them, it just runs hot and ruins battery life. Trust me, I bought a 13", 4lb Asus W7S (Core 2 Duo T7300/GeForce 8400M), it runs at around 70C and gave me 2.5 hours of battery life when new (after two years, it's giving me around 1.5-2 hours). Was it worth it? In some sense, yes, but in most senses, I think in hindsight I should have bought something with integrated graphics. Still love my W7S though, as flawed as it may be.

 

Ati 4330 versions are switchable, so it would offer the best of both worlds. I doubt that a stock 11.6" cooling system could handle the abuse of several hours of gaming with PSU plugged in, though.

 

Oh, that's nice. When I bought, the only switchable GPU systems were in the Sony SZ and Asus U3S, which were both out of my budget.

How much more are the 4330 versions?

 

I'm sorry, but I don't know. I could post European prices of a 3810TG, but that wouldn't help, I suppose.