The Official Arrandale Timeline Thread

I totally agree, a very confusing review.

If you want to understand the results, you will have to refer to the ranking :

ch ip.d e/be stenlisten/Bes tenliste-Notebooks-bis-13-3-Zoll--index/ind ex/id/303/

You will realize that the Sony got the best score in power and e.g. the 1810TZG got 100% mobility (screen, stamina, dimensions, etc.)

 

They note a 199cd\m3 brightness and a contrast ratio of 751\1 on that review...

I wonder if they're really shipped around the world with screens that different o.o'

 

Brightness should be about correct.
Not difficult, as you set the screen on max. and then measure it.
The contrast should be bull though.

Notebookcheck and Notebookjournal have measured a very low contrast of around 100.

 

Yea but someone in this thread mentioned that Acer used up 3 or 4 different screen manufacturers for the same models (Im too lazy to look for exact post).

Could this be true?

 

Well I'm currently using an acer netbook, and have no complaints about the screen. I actually prefer it to my dell notebook, and that's saying a lot since the dell has a matte which I usually prefer.

 

This could totally be true as it's happened to a lot of laptops in the pass. On example is the discontinued Dell XPS m1530 where there were panels made by Samsung, LG, Toshiba and (I think AUO, not sure about this one) and the LG was by far the best panel. In general I think AUO and ChiMei makes crappy panels and LG, Toshiba and Samsung makes awesome panels. There have been a few cases in the past when Samsung produced some REALLY defective panels but overall they're good.

Here's hoping the future Canadian 3820TG comes with a Toshiba/LG panel.

 

Same here.

 

My first post and same here. Waiting desperately for timelineX and Starcraft2!

 

well starcraft 2 has a release date, the timelineX well... uhhhh

 

If the 'some time in May' date is still to be believed for NA, whatever window of opportunity Acer had for trying to get out before other vendors has pretty much dwindled. Other vendors are planning their new models for the same "theoretical" release of May. I have been keeping my eye on the N82JV discussion as well, and all indications are a pre-order being available in a week or so.

Granted, the word on equivalently powered 13 inchers is still minimal, but with every passing day the advantage that Acer had will continue to dwindle.

I was set on the 3820, but given the comments of more vendors coming out with new models during the same timeframe (HP? Dell? etc), I won't be jumping so soon. Will need to see what's available and plan accordingly.

 

Speaking of other vendors, it looks like Asus is finally going to step up the plate with May 13 release of their new netbooks and notebooks. Possibly the long awaited UL30JT.

ASUS Eee PC 1218 said to be Ion-based, more laptops coming May 13th -- Engadget

Come on Acer, get in the game!

 

I'm hoping for a Portugal release... not that many portuguese guys here, but, how knows?

Well, at least some i5-520M or i5-540M anywhere in europe, so i don't have to pay customs fees. I don't mind putting some stickers to change the keyboard until i get some portuguese keyboard from ebay or something.

 

The bamboo covered ones engadget is talking about are probably the U33JC and U53JC.
The 13 incher is quite nice, having up to a i7-620M, NVidia Optimus (310M), and USB 3.0. All in 1.7Kg.

Do you think the price will be much higher than the 3820?

 

i hope too for an european version with these versions of i5

 

man dell has the WORST pricing in the world

all this for 1700... CDN
this is for the new latitude 6410
no SSD either. fail

Genuine Windows® 7 Professional, 32-bit
Intel® Core™ i7-620M (2.66GHz, 4M cache) with Turbo Boost Technology
Slate Silver, Mobile Broadband ready
No Intel vPro™ Technology’s advanced management features
14.1" UltraSharp™ WXGA+(1440x900) Anti-Glare LED with Premium Panel Guarantee
Light Sensitive Webcam and Noise Cancelling Digital Array Mic
4.0GB, DDR3-1066MHz SDRAM, 2 DIMMS
250GB 7200rpm Hard Drive
8X DVD with Cyberlink Power DVD™, no media
512MB NVIDIA NVS 3100M with ExpressCard
6-cell (60Wh) Lithium Ion Battery
Internal English Keyboard
No Modem
Intel® Centrino® Ultimate-N 6300 802.11a/b/g/n Half Mini Card

 

that is for a business class laptop, not a consumer. you can find a consumer inspiron or studio with better stuff for less that 900. im not really sure if the timeline would be classified as consumer or business, but im think its more consumer.

 

The Timeline is definitely a consumer line, albeit a somewhat premium consumer line. The Travelmate is more of a business line, but still quite a ways off the Dell Latitude; more like a Vostro.

 

couldnt have said it better myself. its just a different world when you get into business notebooks. some can crossover a little be and be cheaper, but that basically the price for a good business laptop with ok internals

 

Hp has some really nice laptops on the way, very nice competitors to the new Timeline series (heads up Acer):
http://forum.notebookreview.com/not...ounces-new-consumer-notebooks-discussion.html
HP Announces New Consumer Notebooks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVpVKLd-l4c&feature=player_embedded

 

Sorry Acer, I waited too long, and will get the Envy with the higher resolution and backlit keyboard. I would've jumped on the 4820T if it came out.

 

Agree, been waiting anxiously for the past 2+ months for the Acer 3820TG to be released here in the states with a 540m or 620m. This is now beginning to be borderline c*ck-tease and many of us, myself included, are jaded.

The ENVY 14 is now really catching my eye, too. At least I know the date when it'll arrive here (June 27) starting at a very modest $999.

HP Envy 14 and 17 officially official -- Engadget

 

ugh, i'd be all over that envy if it didn't come with a dvd drive

and im not a fan of the clickable mousepads.. arg

 

I'd be all over the Envy 14 if it was at least 1 pound lighter

 

I'm about to order this. Only thing holding me back is that it only has the 430M processor. Is the difference up to a 520M or 540M significant? It runs on a slightly lower clock. On the plus side, this should be good for battery life, don't you think?

 

WoW, how many times did people ask this till now? five hundreds times? I can't count it anymore!

Please look some pages back or try the inthread search!

 

In fact, I have been following this thread for several weeks, but I have not found any answers to these questions. I saw something about the 430M being unable to utilize the potential of the 5650, but then people got into a kind of heated discussion, and I never found out what this was based on. Anyone care to elaborate?

 

No.

Bronsky

 

If I was looking at a 14", I have to say, I would be giving the Envy 14 a serious look. I know it is a pound heavier than the Timeline but it is a solid metal case like the apple. I would expect more weight. It has the exact same specs as the 14" Timeline but a 1600 x 900 display and its base price is $999. If there are any coupon deals like we have seen with the Envy 15, it could be very affordible.

It also gives fans of the Apple look a Windows 7 machine. This is going to sell very well. Late last fall, Acer's chief announced that Acer was taking a run at HP for market dominance. If it had a better distribution plan for the TimelineX, it would have already been well on its way. Maybe the HP anouncement will motivate Acer to get its units to the US market sooner rather than later.

I have to say though ... I really like the look of the Envy 14. I have to replace my notebook in June to complete a mid-summer presentation. If the 3820TG is not for sale by then, I think I have to consdier the Envy and the Z as my alternatives. I have to see how the Envy deals with the heat generated by the I7-620M. Who knows, maybe we will have the Dell Studio XPS 13 refresh by then.

It can't be bad to have more choices.

Bronsky

Edit: through it all - still patiently awaiting my 3820TG. IMO, there is still nothing in the 13" size that can hold a candle to it. If Acer doesn't hurry up, I'm sure there will be. The ATI HD5650 is showing up everywhere. How much harder would it be for a competitor to fit an HD5670 in the same spot as the HD5650 Then the whole cycle starts over again.

Edit #2: earlier, I mentioned the new Quad Pennom II being put in the new dell Inspiron. It will have a HD550v GPU. I may have slighted this chip. Initially, it looked to me like a low powered entertainment accelerator but as I read more about the GPU, it looks to be more of a mid-range GPU in the GT330-335 or HD4650 range. To be sure, even this line has better GPU's in its 600 series and the 550 seems to have digital v. analogue limitations, but I think the Dell may be a much better machine than I thought on first blush. The new HP DM4 will come with a HD530v option too. Now if Dell would just stop making all of its laptops look like the mini10 with a fat butt.

 

So those new pavilions also run on AMD quads... interesting. Wonder how they'll perform.

And btw, damn you people!! Firtst Bronsky with xps 13" now this Envy 14". I feel like my mad Acer hunger is dissapearing. They better release it soon.

 

Bloody hell. Gotta wait till June 27 for the Envy 14 to be released.

 

At least it has a release date.

 

can anyone tell me if envy 14 will have i7 620m not quad

 

No, all sites saying Quad!

 

are they know the spec of hp envy 14 and new xps 13?

 

The base specs include an I5.

"Taking the place of the Envy 13 is the $999 14.5-inch Envy 14 -- oh yes, we just said it starts at under a grand -- which packs a Core i5 processor, ATI Mobility Radeon discrete graphics and 7,200rpm hard drive options."

If the base 14 has a dual core, I think we'll see an I7-620M option. I read it somewhere this morning but I can't find it again. So, I'll equivocate before someone jumps down my throat.

There is also the Dm4 which will have dual core/HD as well. (and a pound less than the Envy)

It's not easy to sort through right now. I'm confused by all of the releases HP seems to be issuing today. No 13.3" at all?

@luca.azzo The specs for the 14 are sketchy, all we have are press releases ... the studio 13 XPS, if it's ever re-released, is probably months away and nobody has a clue what its specs will be.

Bronsky

Edit: Here's the proposed specs from Gizmodo:

"The Envy 14 is 1.1 inches thick, weighs 5.25 pounds, and offers Intel Core i3, Core i5, and Core i7 processors. The 14.5-inch 16:9 display runs at 1,600x900 pixels, and the system supports switchable graphics, pairing integrated Intel graphics with an ATI Mobility Radeon 5650. The Envy 14 also adds a backlit keyboard, one of the key upscale features missing from the more-expensive Envy 13. At $999, the magnesium/aluminum alloy Envy compares very favorably with the current $999 MacBook, which has a polycarbonate body and an older Core 2 Duo CPU."

 

ok then the xps is cut off for me

 

HP Pavilion and Envy line refresh with a release date, that's good news for the US market. It looks like Acer for Europe and HP for NA, HP usually gets here later, and yes, I too would consider both the refreshed SXPS 13 / Envy 14 / Pavilion dm4 as an alternative, though I won't have the time to wait till HP gets here from the US, not to mention the Sxps 13 refresh is not even announced.

BTW, I'm not familiar with the ATI 50x GPU the Pavilion (and maybe the Envy 14) would have, but if the overall specs of the Envy 14 or Dm4 would be similar to the 3820TG, I might wait for the European release and get some lower specd Travel notebook to hold me through the wait, is this ATI GPU estimated to be in par with the GT335M?

 

but i don't understand a thing... is the previous generation of envy even release in europe?

 

Yeah I also just saw the ENVY 14 post on Engadget... I gotta say, I am mighty tempted. I thought I was sold on the 3820TG, but like so many others, the wait and the lack of a release date for North America is making me second guess. I'm excited to see reviews for the ENVY and it's battery life, heat dissipation and performance. I hope it performs SUPER well, in which case I might just get it, or it doesn't perform well at all, in which case I'll just get the 3820TG. In either case, it's nice to see different options showing up!

EDIT:

http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/laptops/hp-envy-17/10935.html

"The HP Envy 14 is also powered by an ATI Mobility Radeon 5650 graphics card with 1GB DDR3 RAM."

 

The first I heard of it was when the Inspiron M501 was anounced. There is a white paper on it somewhere that I read this morning (it listed the 500 and 600 series GPU's and had a chart of the various capabilities). There is also a thread somewhere comparing its specs to the Nvidia GT330M. LOL, saw your correction before I could finish this - yea, the Envy 14 gets an HD 5650. They seem to be everywhere, all of a sudden.

Bronsky

Edit: If portability was not so important to me the 3820Tg would not still be so attractive ... it is and it is.

 

only 6h of battery life??

 

The dude from HP in some videos I've watched is claiming 7 hours on battery and then an additional 7 hours with the slice battery.

 

my experience HP service really bad

it not service, just want to make money

never buy HP again

 

i can't say the same

 

My service experience with HP has been great as well.

 

I've owned tons of laptops for at least a couple of weeks, from pretty much every different brand, and my HP was the best notebook I ever had. The build and support was definitely better that that of the Acers I have had.

 

but i think we are OT now, come on acer release this damn i5 (not 450 m ) 3820tg worldwide

 

I think the early Envy 15 had some problems but after the refresh everybody seemed quite satisfied with it. I thought HP was fairly responsive on that issue. Far more than some other manufacturers. ALso, HP was smart to leave the design behind if It couldn't put decent components in it.

Are there any hands on reviews yet. I would like to see the I7-620M stressed and see how the cooling system handles the heat of the 620M.

The real shame is that we are focused on the HP in this Acer thread. There is nothing to really say about the TimelinesX because only about a dozen people seem to have the models that everybody is interested in. I should be in my office typing about how much I like my 3820TG.

Bronsky

 

I believe it's available in some countries, I've read something like so, though it's priced like whoa, plus AFAIK there are no coupons or bing-cashback options in the EU - unlike in the US - so no discounts on the price either, that's why I claimed HP for NA and Acer for EU. (Make it Sony and HP for NA, for Sony is available in Europe, but for like 750-1000 USD more.)

Here too, plus it seems the HP Envy 14 would be released with the same specs, and though it'd be better built, would have backlit keyboard and e-sata which are tempting, it would definately cost more here and would have to wait for it some time, not to mention it wieghts 2.35 kg contrary to the 3820's 1.8 kg, so I think I'll stick to Acer.

 

Here, with the price of Envy 13, SL9600 & 250GB can get Vaio Z with i5 540M & 128GB SSD...
I doubt Envy 14 would cost $999 here...