Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
It's a really hard call to make, I suppose it depends on what your primary use will be. Mine for example has to be able to play games because I'll be using it for 3 months over the summer (and I won't be able to take my main gaming rig). But I'll be using this to take from home to Uni so it needs to be portable, so light and good battery life.
I've seen the Envy 14, and personally it doesn't quite have the mobility of the Acer 3820TG but excels in build quality, keyboard and screen, plus is has to be said looks better. For me though it is available too late, I really need a laptop by mid-June at the latest.
Comparing the Envy 14 to the 4820TG is a bit different. Both offer very similar hardware configurations and look to be in a similar price range. The Envy is out on the 17th of June, so if I were you I would wait until then, you never know Acer might shape up and offer the 6 cell battery.
Just out of interest why are you choosing the 4820 instead of the 3820? IS it just because of the 9-cell?
Some others have posted the 4820 has had a few heating issues but the dual-fans of the 3820 have kept it relatively cool (still waiting on more reports though). The only advantage I can see with the 4820 is the ODD, but that's becoming obsolete, just use an external one when you occasionally need it.
My advice to you though would be to wait until June 17th for the Envy and in the mean time Acer might sort its shipping situation out and you can get a 3820 with a 6 cell.
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I'm not sure that's the case anymore.
At first it seemed like the UL30JT would be a much improved version than the UL30VT, but then we found that it would have the same 3DMark score of 3400, the CPU would be faster at encoding but the power consumption would be lower. So as far as gaming the UL30JT doesn't raise the bar.
Then the 3820TG came along and with this ATI card it would supposed to have 3DMark scores in the 6000s while matching the 8-hour life of the UL30JT. Seem perfect, right? No so fast, according to the latest review, the 3820TG with the lower-end ATI card actually gets 3700 3DMarks, which is less than an overclocked UL30VT gets (almost 4000 3DMarks). And you still only get 8 hours.
Now there's the 3820TG with the high-end ATI card, but the big question is how much will they charge for it, and what will battery life be on it? If a high-end 3820TG ends up costing way more than the UL30JT and has less battery life, then it becomes less attractive. Remember it's an Acer after all, you don't get the sexyness of a Sony, Envy or MBP.
After reading the review of the 3820TG, I'm glad I stopped the pain and just bought a tried and true UL30VT. It runs MW2 like a champ and makes it as fun as it can be on a 13" notebook, meaning you don't play games on it for very long.
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You mean "dual core" under the Timeline I7 (620M).
Going HP Envy 14 I see. Can't blame you. Although I am still hoping for the Timeline 3820TG, It is nice to know that the HP will be out there. I actually like the DV5 as well. Starting price at $650. It would be nice to see a 1600 x 900 display on that model.
Bronsky
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The I5-540M is the one chip we have not seen in any of the Timeline models. 430's, 520's, and 620's but no 540M's. Is it possible that Acer will not produce an I5-540M model?
Bronsky
@Yus9 - US retailers have had this model for quite some time. Is the 15% Cash Back only on this model or is Tiger having a general 15% sale? If its only this model, Maybe Tiger is clearing the deck for new Timelines (we can only hope). -
To kill the boredom while waiting for the introduction of the 3820TG in the US, here is an article where Acer's CEO makes some pretty aggressive predictions about the company's ability to take over the notebook market after passing Dell for number 2. It is interesting reading.
Acer: Past Dell, and Chasing HP - BusinessWeek
Acer seems to have ridden to the number 2 spot on the backs of their netbook production alone. With the failure of Acer to get its Timelines to market in any appreciable quantity and with its primere specs, it looks like Acer execs were celebrating a bit too early. Now, with netbook prices plunging, I wonder if Acer will be able to hold onto its No. 2 spot. From what I have seen with the introduction of the TimelineX models, HP has nothing to worry about and I would not be surprised to see Dell recapture the second spot as netbook sales continue to plummet, along with Acer's stock. Maybe if the CEO had paid a bit less attention to the boiled abalony and more attention to his sales and distribution networks, I would be typing this on a 3820TG.
My fav line in the article = "Wang, 55, understands that hubris could be Acer's undoing." I love execs who take credit for success that they have not yet accomplished. Pride goeth before the fall ... The two guys in the lounges should get off their fat a**es and get their prodcuts to market. DISTRIBUTION FAIL!
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HP DV3 with ATI 5450 and Core i7-720QM
in Singapore.
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The 5150 should be sufficient for your needs. I would probably prefer a better GPU and battery life.
I don't know how long the refresend HP's are going to take to get to the Netherlands but we are supposed to get most of them in a couple of weeks. I would take a look at the refresend HP DV3
HP Pavilion dv3-4000 Entertainment Notebook PC series specifications - HP Home & Home Office products
The specs are from the Singapore HP site so the prices is in Singapore dollars and likely includes VAT. I would expect the price of this model to be far less in the US. I3/I5/I7 CPUs & HD5450 GPU. The DV series comes with the metal case like the Envy, just not with the higher resolution displays. They are offereing the DV3 with a quad core I7-720QM - its the first 13" I've seen offered with a quad core. The I5-520M/5450 GPU would, IMO, be a better balanced configuration than the Sony specs. Although the resolution is not as good as the Sony, the DV3 is a 13" display and will be far brighter than the Acer. This HP will be a clone of the 13" Apple MBP, only with a lower resolution display but a hell of a lot better specs. I would assume that HP will price this computer head-to-head with the MBP.
It might be worth a short wait.
Bronsky
LOL beat me to it Jayayess1190
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haha ikas, this reminds me of the ul30jt thread
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The only ones who are still here are those interested in the 3820TG. I think Acer will have a hard time penetrating the US market in the 14" and 15" sizes because of the new HP lines. The DV5, base price of $650 is an affordable version of the Envy 14. The Envy 14 will draw the majority of the US 14" purchases due to its superior display. The only thing that I think the 14" Acer has going for it is the Il Diavilo model, because HP has no dual core I7-620M option. The Envy, on the other hand, may have an option for an HD 5830 GPU. The new DV3 is also a nice notebook but I think it is aimed at MBP 13" buyers, not 3820TG buyers. We're here for the specs.
There is still nothing in a 13" notebook that outspecs the 3820TG at this point. I don't that that will last much longer either. I would guess that someone will fill this gap within the next few months if Acer doesn't get its Timelines in the hands of US retailers. I guess that Dell would like to get its new Studio XPS 13 on the market before school starts. I like the Vostro redesign and the specs are improving on the Inspiron. Glad to see more ATI GPU's in Dells.
But, I think Acer is hemorraging sales in the US market every day they fail to get their lines here. If you read the article, it notes that the US market has been a problem for Acer in the past and the CEO suggested that Acer was going to kick a** here. Not quite kicking anyone's a** yet.
Bronsky
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i will buy everything that comes with i5 520m or above, 5650 or above, 8h battery, 13" and...damn for now there's only acer
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The Official Arrandale Timeline Thread
Discussion in 'Acer' started by Jayayess1190, Mar 3, 2010.
