any idea how does the 3820TG compare performance-wise to the new MBP 13"? trying to chose between the two (after dropping UL30JT from the list...)
main use to be large photo files and power-hungry PhotoShop and hooked to external screen.
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It will kick its A*s from here to Sunday.
Bronsky
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that actually looks kind of sexy...
i also found a 6 cell battery on ebay for like $80 shippedLast edited by a moderator: May 6, 2015 -
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x2 what bronsky said
however im sure the mbp will do just fine for what you intend
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The 4820TG looks pretty awesome for a consumer laptop...
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From the 3820tg review:
The keyboard's stability and quality impression isn't at all pleasing. The keyboard can already be bent visibly under slight pressure and thus suggests a less stable subconstruction. The keys teeter slightly when they are hit at a corner and thus already appear to be instable. Additionally, the big keys, like space and enter, emit a somewhat clattery stroke noise. How well you can cope with that varies individually. Frequent typists will probably hardly benefit from the keyboard in the long run; "normal" users will likely not have as many problems.
Ugh
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Great!! I only type about 6 hours a day.
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Hey guys, like you I'm waiting for the 3820TG i5/5650.
I'll be travelling to the US in July and I *hope* that it will be already released by then.
The only thing that concerns me is the HUGE number of complaints about defective notebooks being sold by Acer. Many 'dead on arrival' topics here in the forum. Does that concern you as well? That made me think about getting a Asus UL30VT or a UL30JT but I really wanted the 5650 GPU. DO you have any suggestions to 3820TG alternatives? ( alternative = switchable gpu, <= 2kg, HD5650 or equivalent, 5+ hours of wifi + browsing).
My greatest fear is getting a defective notebook while travelling, that would ruin my trip.
BTW I live in Brazil, do you know by any chance if acer's warranty is valid in brazil/latin america ?
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mate you wont find anything with this spec with 5+batt life. breaking while travelling could happen to any notebook. i currently have prob second in that class 13.3 lg p310 1.6kb 9600m gt and havent had any problems. 3820tg doesnt have dvd drive either but it has a awesome cooling system which would ensure its durability. for me i see it a great laptop that could score 10000+ score in 3dmakr06 (i only can get 7400 on 13 inch) and gives you option for 9cell and 12hr batt life. dont mind about the keyboard either, prob just gotta get used to it.
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it's strange, 3820's temperature is high than 4820's
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i still wonder why every review complains about the poor screen, except one as I remember. I am really worried about it, as the screen is important and I'm not asking much, just to be able to read texts without too much hassles.
The weird thing is that the previous generation seemed to have good screens. I have seen a 5810 JUST TODAY, and the screen was excellent!
@Bronsky: why in the world do you type so much? I mean, 6 hours a day full time? Are you a translator? -
I'm an environmental lawyer.
But don't tell anyone ... everybody hates lawyers.
Bronsky
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lol, mate i saw i your sig u wanna get i7-620m with 3820tg, will there be a model avaidable with 5650 and 620m ? It wont produce more heat that i5 right ? i checked and it has 35W consumption just like i5. Is there a lot of improvement between i7 and i5 440m in power, gernerall tasks and gaming ? thankkks
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The I7-620M version of the 3820TG has only been sold in Singapore so far as I know. The 620M is hotter than the I5-520M (I don't think Acer is offering the 540M in the 3920TG or at least I have not seen one yet).
Here are the temps on the 620M from the intel burn test.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/acer/479584-acer-aspire-3820t-4.html
Look at post # 38.
The I7-620M hit 89C during the test. But it was Singapore in a non-air conditioned room (31C). The most important thing is that the cores didn't get close to their max temp of 104C and registered stable performance throughout the test. I would expect those temps to be a few degress lower in an airconditioned room but the core is not cool my any measure. The cooling system seems to handle the heat just fine. None of the owners of the Singapore models have complained about the heat causing any problems.
Bronsky
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That's it?! My laptop is hitting 98C in room temperature in Canada without an external fan.. I want a new laptop =(
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Worry not, I always thought environmental lawyers are the ones which are least hate-able...
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My definition of test is Intel Burn In + Furmark concurrently.
100% CPU + 100% GPU usage.
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He's lying: he mentions too many air conditioned rooms for caring the least about environment. He's probably one of those defending BP..
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I agree those less hated people should be environmental prosecutors.
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I might end up buying one of these if I get the 3820tg
10 Super Bright Flexible Metal USB LED Light,Snake Light for Laptop Notebook PC,Silver Color - Meritline.com
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I just bought a 4820TG, i5 430m, ati 5650 two days ago.
There is no heat issue, keyboard and screen are great for me.
But mind you that I was using ASUS 1000h netbook before this killler machine.
Just had to share my joy here. -
abaddon4180 Notebook Virtuoso
How much did it cost? -
New 5820TG model available for pre-order in Norway:
LX.PTN02.234
Core i7-620M
ATI HD5650.
640GB HDD.
4GB RAM
DVDRW
9 cell 90Whr battery.
ETA: Mid-late June.
Price: 9995NOK That is including 25% VAT. Prices in EUR/USD (ex Norwegian VAT) would be 1224 USD / 993 EUR.
Komplett.no - Acer Aspire TimelineX 5820TG 15.6"HD LED -
hmm going to be in china by the end of this month going to check out the 3820tg there.
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I'm sure glad I didn't pull the trigger on a Geforce 310m notebook, but now the wait for one of these is going to be unbearable! Any chance the 3820tg will be under $1k?
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I think a 430M or 450M /hd5650 could be well under a thousand. 450M integrated graphics versions of the 3820T are listed on a few US sites for just over $700.
Bronsky
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Any news on the Travelmate version of the Timeline X?
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It's funny, the lack of backlighting on the 3820TG doesn't bother me as much as the lack of it on my 1410T. The 3820TG will spend most of its life on my desk traveling only a half-a-dozen times a year. My 1410T, however, is with me all the time. I would love to have the keys lit in low light situations. Are there any 11.6" units with backlighting?
Bronsky
@SSJ haven't looked ... waiting to see what Acer says next week in New York. My summer schedule requires me to have a decent notebook by July. I have already decided that I will get the Envy 14 if nothing else breaks. If the 3020TG gets here before then in I7-620M regalia and an HD5650 GPU, then it was meant to be. If Dell releases the XPS 13 in the interim, I would get one of them. If not, I am ordering the Envy 14 on June 27th. I5-540M | HD5650 | 1600 x 900, 350 nit 14.5" display | 160 GB Intel X25-M G2 SSD | 6 cell high capacity battery | extra slice battery | slotted optical drive | 4GB 1 DIM DDR3. I estimate the cost in the range of $1,200 after discounts. -
I also need a laptop by July and i want the 13'' i7+5650. I would settle for the 520/540 thou. So no 5650 in US/CA yet? only integrated?
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abaddon4180 Notebook Virtuoso
It is shame that Acer didn't push the release of these, they lost a lot of buyers if you ask me.
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I just want a 520m/540m + 5650. I don't need the i7. Acer, release these notebooks now!
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Anybody see this press release on the I5-580. Same speed as the I7-620M with less cache and probably less power drain. This would be perfect for the 3820TG. Out in Q4.
Bronsky
Fudzilla
@inm8#2 - I have seen nothing indicating that the I5-540M will be offered in the 3820TG. I think the I5 options are liminted to the 430, 450 and 520 for now. Where ya doin time? -
Ah I see, Bronsky. I was probably thinking of the UM i CPUs for the ul30jt and similar laptops. 520 it is for me.
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anyone know if the keyboards on the 3810 and 3820 are identical?
haha maybe some top secret gov't laptops
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Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake
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gotcha
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the m11x
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Funny, I always forget that one when I think of 11.6" subnotebooks.
While it is technically an 11.6" display, it is not quite the travel companion I was thinking of. But thanks anyway.
Man, Acer better say someting real at the press conference next week.
Bronsky
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haha me too. i consider the m11x a 13" tank
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Acer better say something good about the 3820/4820tg's, don't care whatever else they say, except that.
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ok so keyboards are identical.. minus the slippy/non-slippy feel.
so isn't this a simple swap?
Acer Aspire 3810T 3410T 4810T 4410T Keyboard US Backlit - eBay (item 260583768479 end time Jun-09-10 07:08:57 PDT)
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Do we know what to expect for the systems that will have a 5650 GPU in terms of price? There have been various reports on here from different countries but I'm wondering if anyone has kept track of those more diligently. Thanks!
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So this would then fit on the 3820TG and would the backlit lights work too? Is it easy enough to swap out the keyboards then?
Well its a slightly more expensive option, its really got me considering that German 3820TG with the i5 430m. You guys can wait an extra 4 months for a i5 520m model which to be honest the difference between the 430 & 520 is next to nothing.
Its like a PIII 800Mhz Vs PIII 850mhz.., which is faster? The 850Mhz one but...you'll not notice the difference between them in the real world. Only in a benchmark.
Such a big difference.....Not!
i5 430m CPU score 3dmark06: 2578
i5 520m CPU score 3dmark06: 2734
i5 430m SuperPi 1mb - 17
i5 520m superPi 1mb - 17
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For Intel Processor typically it is easily identified
Intel Core i ( Processor Class Number) - ( 3 Digit SKU Number)( Alphabet 1)( Alphabet 2)
The Processor Class Number is either 3/5 or 7.3 refers to the low end ProcessorsThe 1st Digit SKU Number refers to the instruction set in the Processor.
5 refers to the mainstream Processors
7 refers to the high end Processors3X0 means - No Intel® Turbo Boost Technology,
- No Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d),
- No Intel® Trusted Execution Technology,
- No AES New Instructions
4X0 means- No Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d),
- No Intel® Trusted Execution Technology,
- No AES New Instructions
5X0 and aboveThe 2nd Digit refers to the different Frequency of the Processor Family- All Instruction Set Supported
For the alphabet there are a number of fixed AlphabetsM - Mainstream
Q - Quad Core (4 Cores, 8 Threads, No Intel HD Graphics due to high TDP)
X - Xtreme (Unlocked Multiplier)
U - Ultra Low Voltage (Low Frequency + Low Voltage)
L - Low Voltage (Low Voltage only)
E - Embedded (Not Upgradable)
AES-NI will improve performance for BitLocker while VT-I/O is for virtual machines.
Trusted Execution is more for corporates keeping tracking of their laptop inventory (lost missing)
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This is interesting.
MSI Graphics Upgrade Solution seeks an ExpressCard slot to call home -- Engadget
An external desktop 5670 for $229 that plugs into your laptop. If you have your own desktop GPU, you can buy the case and connector for $100. Will this work with something like a Lenovo X201s, that has integrated graphics only?
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Yes it would as its got an express slot. However just be better to get a 3820TG
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keyboard swap should be very easy.
whether or not that ebay listing is a legit backlit keyboard is my question
i havent seen any ebay sellers with pictures of the backlit keyboard in action.
i have a feeling a lot of these sellers are selling regular keyboards and mislabeling them as backlit.
i emailed a few of the sellers for pictures with backlit on.
if indeed these are legit 3810 backlit keyboards, the only difficult part would be finding a 5v source to connect the power cable to. everything else is a super easy swap.
if this is a viable solution.. looks like i have now found my perfect notebook... 3820TG i5/5650 combo with backlit keyboard
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Any idea where i could get my hands on one in Europe ? with internetional shipping to UK. 430m and 5640 could do. thxxx
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