*Upgraded 5920G to a T7700 2.4ghz...

Ok... I finished installing the T7700 in my 5920G. I used ArticSilver-5 on the two large CPU chips, as well as the large VGA chip (after i removed there thermal pads). My 5920G is so much faster now.

*Part-1 temperatures;

"First cold startup" of the morning is 42c/45c for core 1&2, and 100c for Tjunction. I'm useing Core Temp 0.95.4 beta for temperature measurments. So there may be some bugs with it.

"After sitting idlingfor 60-minutes with just the screen on", and very little to no CPU usage it stayed the same at 42c/45c.

"After Running Prime95 or ORTHOS" for five minutes or so my temperature moved right up to 90c for both cores. At this point the fan kicks on at there highest speed bringing it back down to 82c-85c, ans then the fan shuts off and the cycle repeats itself until i stop running Prime95 or ORTHOS. Then it sloooowly goes back to 42c/45c.

"Playing Call Of Duty-2" 82c/84c.
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*All test were done with the CPU slider set all the way to the right (maximum setting under Acer ePower Management), and the Graphics power mode is set to Optimal Performance. I'm running BIOS 3708, and useing Core Temp 0.95.4 beta for temperature monitoring.

*Part-2 Benchmark results, can be found on page-2 of this posting.

 

Is that one copy or two copies of Prime95? I thought it is a single-threaded application, so you need to run two copies in order to fully load the CPU.

John

 

Good question....

I used Prime95 v25.4 at it's default setting. I used "Just Stress Testing", then "Blend".

My CPU useage widget guage was fully "pinned" at its highest point during the test.... Same for the ram.

 

Thanks for the clarification.

P95 V25.4 is multi-threaded.

I had been using the earlier version 24.14 linked to at the Mersenne web site. That one is single-threaded.

John

 

I run Dual Prime95 v25.4 program 15 Min last month (After New BIOS Update)
I never hit 90C with Dual Prime95.Temps stay @ 82C-84C.But ORTHOS hit upto 90C (I run ORTHOS at least 15Min)

BTW Try ORTHOS & tell us your results.

 

Do you mean Orthos Stress Prime 2004.. That's what i just found, or a is there a newer version?

btw.. I just noticed, in my device manager it still has my Processors listed as two T5250's. Is there a way to get that to correctly dispaly the T7700.

 

Yes.ORTHOS Stress prime 2004.I think new version available.Follow link
Orthos v20060420

For Second Q-Don't know about that.

 

Ok.. i'll run it and report back. Thanx.

btw.. I found the solution to my 2nd question here;

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930861

 

Just finished running Orthos... Same thing as when running Prime95, it hit 90c, then the fan kicked on at its highest speed and it brought it down to 84c-86c, then the cycle repeated itself.

*See attatched photo.

 

That's nice. It mean FAN speed up to stop CPU throttling due to hi temp & it works perfectly.BTW I like to see fan @ full speed when temp reach 85C not 90c(90C is too hot ).

 

yep.. The fan definantly kicks on at full-high speed at 90c.

*Part-2, Benchmark results w/photos;

3DMark06 / 4,036.

3DMark05 / 6,007.

3DMark03 / 10,161. Temperature was 61c/65c during the test.

3DMark2001se / 23,814. Temperature was 61c/65c during the test.

PCMark05 / 5,743.

Aquamark3 / 94,715


*All test were done with no overclocking or additional tweaks as to focus on the cpu results, and not the gpu.

 

You gotta remember that the thermal paste works with full efficiency when it's dry so it usually requires at least 100 hours (some say up to 200 hours) of idling.
You can expect the temperatures to lower by at least 2-3*C -depending on how thick was the layer- the thicker the longer it dries and the cooler CPU gets after it's dry.
If it was the first time you applied thermal paste you probably used too much of it -really- so expect the temperatures to get lower in a few days.
As for this 100h- remember to switch off the computer for a few hours every once in a while- that's the most efficient way to get it fully dry.

 

For your viewing pleasure... Here are a few links to the Acer 5920G(702G25H) in china/japan, it come standard with a 2.4Ghz T7700.

http://detail.zol.com.cn/122/121169/param.shtml

http://product.tech.qianlong.com/detail/122/121169/param.shtml

http://www.czn.com.cn/productlist/2007_8/31/2007831173414.shtml

http://detail.zol.com.cn/122/121169/drive.shtml

 

On the sticker (bottom of the laptop) you can see "Aspire 4720". That would make sense if you compare it with how Aspire 4720 looks and what card uses according to acer.com
http://global.acer.com/products/notebook/as4720.htm

 

Good catch.. Thanks!

 

what's the best bang for your buck on cpu upgrade? (i have 1.5Ghz still)

 

I wondering about this too. Is it worth it to upgrade to T7700?

 

it's not worth if you have 2.0 ghz processor.wait until next year yo

 

Intel confirm it.

Intel “Santa Rosa Refresh” Coming in January 2008

 

Hmm... I wonder how much an equivalent 2.0Ghz Penryn is going to cost.

 

>Intel “Santa Rosa Refresh” Coming in January 2008

*I think dropping in the "santa rosa refresh" processor would be a headache.. You would need to have the proper modified BIOS and drivers for it, plus it's geared for a DDR3 board. The 5920G is DDR2.. So right off the bat your going to lose that advantage.. IMO.. It's not worth the $850.00+... I would still keep an eye on it though.

*If you have a 1.5Ghz.. I would definantly recomend going for the T7700 2.4Ghz, or 2.2Ghz, or 2.0Ghz, as they have all come way down in price, and are a simple drop in solution...... And offer a Night & Day difference running real world applications, other than the 3DMark stuff.

 

Santarosa refreash will be DDR2 (Look NBR Home page news)
onlything we need is bios update

 

Oh.. well it mentions that it's DDR3 in the link you posted;

http://laptoping.com/intel-santa-rosa-refresh.html

 

It mentions DDR3- true- but as a part of future Montevina not Santa Rosa refresh. Refresh features i965 chipset so no changes in memory are possible.

 

What does this mean? When we just update our BIOS in Q1 of 2008, we will have a Santa Rosa Refresh Laptop in stead of a Santa Rosa laptop now?
So it's not that you have to buy a new CPU if you want a Santa Rosa Refresh laptop? And what is the advantage of Santa Rosa Refresh?
Sorry, I have no clue

 

Main advantage of Santarosa refresh processors are they have hi clock speeds.

without BIOS update system can't recognize new processors.New BIOS update will add santarosa refresh processor HW IDs to the system.

 

Santa Rosa refresh is basically 45nm Penryn CPU- faster and cooler (at least it's supposed to be this way )
So you will need a BIOS update in order to install Penryn.

EDIT: note to self- type faster than bigspin

 

Sorry to say all refresh processors also have same TDP.So forget about cool part.News site hinted that refresh processors have same TDP as current Merom(Read last part & you'll notice it)

Montevina is a notebook of 2008

 

You mean this part where Montevina is said to use 10W less than current 35W Santa Rosa?

PS I started typing answer to the last post before yours was published and finished 4 min after you. No more coffee brakes. That's what "note to self” was all about.

 

Yes.they hinted it right? what do you think?

Oh...Cool.
BTW friend do you know any on-line shop send good to sri lanka?

 

But it's not that when you upgrade your bios, you will have the new Santa Rosa Refresh. You actually have to buy a new processor to have it. Is that what you guys are saying here? Could be a stupid question, but you never know ;-)

 

You want to buy new processor inorder to get refresh

 

No unfortunately I don’t. What are you gonna buy?

 

bummer

 

I Found site. EXcaliberPC.com - Your Reliable Online Store!

Goods I'm going to buy.......

HITACHI 7K200 HDD Hitachi 7K200 Series 200GB 2.5" SATA Hard Drive Hitachi Travelstar 7K200 Review
2GB RAM stick Corsair ValueSelect 2GB 200-Pin DDR2 SO-DIMM
turbo memory module Intel 1GB Turbo Memory Card
Notebook cooler Cooler Master R9-NBC-AWAK NotePal Notebook Cooler
2x AS5 tubes

 

>Goods I'm going to buy.......

>HITACHI 7K200 HDD Hitachi 7K200 Series 200GB 2.5" SATA Hard

I'm looking st this as well... But i heard that the hidden backup partition cannot be copied over.. I wonder if EZ HD transfer software would be able to do it?

 

I'm not worry about that much.I have working recovery DVDs(And backup image copies)

 

NO WAY! That actually work???? It sounds basically like 1GB cache for the processor(but not at full speed). Or is it basically like adding another gig to the ram? Either way at $40 that's not bad. We have the mini PCI-E on our 5920Gs right?

 

Mini PCI-E not available on Bestbuy Model

 

>We have the mini PCI-E on our 5920Gs right?

The Best Buy 1.5Ghz models do not have the extra mini PCI-E connector installed on the PC board. The solder pads and screw holes are there for it though.

If the mini PCI-E connector is in fact, a bolt on that sits ontop of the solder pads with just two screws, then it would be a go. But that exact connector (possibly same one as the wireless card) would have to be identified with a part number and then purchased... And if that worked, you would then need the drivers (an easy find).. And again, it is still unkown if any of this would really work at all in the Best Buy 1.5Ghz model.. This is only in theory.

I posted a picture of where the missing conector is. It can be found in a turbo memory post i did a while back over here;

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=142730&highlight=turbo+memory

 

No it's not like adding 1GB of RAM. Actually, I don't see much different with it.

 

Thanks guys, and sorry to hijack the post for a minute. I checked my laptop and yes, being a bestbuy model doesn't have the second PCI-E slot. I'm not concerned because I saved so much money by getting the bestbuy model that it's worth it.
Question though. I'm not too concerned with start-up speed of vista, mine starts in less then a minute, so couldn't I get the same boost or better in system performance from a large and fast SD card and keep in in the computer all the time?

bigspin, you can use those back-ups to get rid the the hidden partition on your current drive. I'm sure you knew that but maybe it will help others. I hate losing HD space to hidden partitions.

Baia, Would you recommend using an fast, large SD card for ready drive? Also, I'm guessing that none of these will help that loading times of games.

 

I delete my Hidden partitions after create my recovery DVDs(Oh..make sure your recovery DVDs are working b4 delete hidden partition)

 

Buy HITACHI 7K200 Hdd.I'm sure it will improve your game load time

Hitachi Travelstar 7K200

BTW ASUS DDR3 8600M GT MXM2 Available to buy .....

 

yeah, post nr 100

As Bigspin said, I think it wouldn't make as big of a difference as upgrading the speed of you HDD. So there's no need to use an SD card. You won't notice the difference. It will definetely not speed up the loading times of games. A faster HDD will.

 

I agree, a faster HD, although far more $$$$$$ than a SD Card, it's the right way to do it. You will gain all around.

 

forgive the reviving of an old thread...but considering I'm thinking of upgrading my 5920G (6273) to a T7500, I thought I'd just use an existing thread that talks about it. there's mention of a BIOS update for the Santa Rosa update in '08. being this is an Acer laptop, would this BIOS update come from Acer or from Intel?

 

i want to upgrade my t5250 to something better also, but does it really make a big difference in gaming performance? i mainly ask this cuz when i go to canyourunit.com and see if i can run games like cod 4 i pass for all the recomended specs except for the cpu part. example=CPU
Recommended: 2.4 GHz dual core or better
You Have: 2 processors running - Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5250 @ 1.50GHz
CPU Speed
Recommended: 2.4 GHz
You Have: 1.50 GHz

 

I have an Acer 5920G from Best Buy.

With the default 1.5GHz processor I can achieve max detail on COD4 with 60FPS @ 1280x800.

I can crank 4xAA/16xAF and still keep 50+ FPS.

So ignore those mininum requirements.

I can also play Crysis on all settings high except texture, and physics on very high, and still get 30+ FPS.

I wonder if the video card is handling most of the processing.

Anyhoo, first post here, but have been lurking for a really long time, thanks for all the help with drivers and such, you guys have been incredibly helpful in setting up a new fresh clean Vista install up on my machine.

I just have one quick request, can you point me to the newegg listing for this processor, I found this one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819111316

But it says socket P, not ZIF. I am not too good with the hardware side of things, so if y'all could help me out I would really appreciate it.

Thanks!

 

hey Ender...ZIF isn't the sockety type...the socket type we have is P, so the CPU is fine. ZIF means zero insertion force, which means the CPU can be changed.