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    What Acer laptop models have Intel Virtualization Technology(ies) (VT) enabled?

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by whit3h4t, Apr 18, 2008.

  1. whit3h4t

    whit3h4t Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi guys.
    Somebody can help to solve this question about VT on Acer laptops?
    I recently bought a Acer 5720 laptop, but I'm very disappointed because this model BIOS don't give access to VT, and consequently 64 bit virtual machines too, and I need this feature to work.
    I'm using VMWare, that I sure that works with 64bit OSes.
    Please, if someone meet models specifications that have this feature enable by default I'll be thankful.
    [ ]'s


    whi3h4t
     
  2. goofball

    goofball Notebook Deity

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    The processor should determine whether you have VT or not. I don't believe it is a feature that is turned off by the BIOS. What processor do you have?
     
  3. whit3h4t

    whit3h4t Notebook Enthusiast

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  5. whit3h4t

    whit3h4t Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi guy.
    I tried the utility that you indicates in last post, and it says that my notebook is capable to run 64 bits Virtual Machines.
    My problem is in VMWare, because this says that I need enable VT in BIOS, but my BIOS don't give me this option.
    I think that only a future BIOS update can solve the problem, for me and others, and I hope in this.
    Thanks for help buddy.
    See you.

    whit3h4t
     
  6. whit3h4t

    whit3h4t Notebook Enthusiast

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    Good luck, I hear they aren't going to bother with it.
     
  8. yuio

    yuio NBR Assistive Tec. Tec.

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    well I guess acer will lose costomers in the future.
     
  9. whit3h4t

    whit3h4t Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello yuio
    I agree totally with you...
    Not only in the future, but present too...
    For me "Acer never more"...
    [ ]`s

    whit3h4t
     
  10. lappyforphotoshop

    lappyforphotoshop Notebook Deity

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    Get any of T7xxx, T8xxx , T9xxx , usually T5xxx does not have this feature, the T5600 has it tough.
     
  11. goofball

    goofball Notebook Deity

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    The CPU is not the issue. The lack of VT enabled in a BIOS nor an option to enable it is the issue.

    I have a T7400 and cannot run 64bit OS in VMWare due to lack of BIOS support.
     
  12. whit3h4t

    whit3h4t Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes, the problem is the BIOS...
    See my notebook specifications below (Centrino Santa Rosa):

    Core2 Duo T7300
    Chipset GM965
    Intel Wireless Pro 3945 A/B/G
    VGA X3100
    2GB RAM DDR2 667
    HD 160GB

    The BIOS don't have options to enable VT and this feature is disabled by default (last BIOS version v1.34 enable Disable-bit, but VT not).
    [ ]'s

    whit3h4t
     
  13. cyberfish

    cyberfish Notebook Enthusiast

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    My Aspire 5920G has VT enabled (T7300). No option in BIOS, but it is enabled (Xen works).
     
  14. lappyforphotoshop

    lappyforphotoshop Notebook Deity

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    oh , I got it then you might ask Acer support about it or get the Travel Mate 6592G , I know this model support it.
     
  15. Rainwulf

    Rainwulf Newbie

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    5620 here with the 7300 core 2 duo. It has VT.
     
  16. whit3h4t

    whit3h4t Notebook Enthusiast

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    Did you try 64 bit VMs?
    Here 32 bit VMs works fine with VMWare, but 64 no.
    Please, make test trying run 64 bit VMs using Xen in our Aspire.
    Thx
    [ ]1

    whit3h4t
     
  17. cyberfish

    cyberfish Notebook Enthusiast

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    Xen does not support 64-bit guest on 32-bit host (where VMware does). However, running Windows on Xen requires CPU's hardware virtualization (and it works). I have also tried 64-bit Linux on VMware (on 32-bit Linux), works too. (sorry I don't have 64-bit Windows to try, but I imagine it would be the same as 64-bit Linux)
     
  18. whit3h4t

    whit3h4t Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thx for reply buddy...
    I suggest you download a trial version of XP Professional 64-bit on technet site to make test with.
    The only 64 bit Linux version that I know is Ubuntu 7.10 for AMD processor, is this the version are you using?
    If not, what is the version and where can I download it.
    [ ]'s

    whit3h4t
     
  19. cyberfish

    cyberfish Notebook Enthusiast

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    I tried Ubuntu 7.10 x64, 8.04 x64, and Debian testing (x64). They all work.

    It is just because initially only AMD had x86-64, so they named the architecture amd64. It works equally well with Intel processors.
     
  20. whit3h4t

    whit3h4t Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thx for reply.
    I hope Acer enable VT options in next BIOS releases, or give-us a option to change it.
    Good luck for us (that have Acer and Core2 Duo, but not VT).
    You're lucky because in your notebook VT works.
    [ ]'s

    whit3h4t
     
  21. cyberfish

    cyberfish Notebook Enthusiast

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    That is strange... same laptop, same CPU, same chipset.

    What BIOS version are you using?
    The European site seems to have the newest BIOS (3811 from my memory). I bought mine in Taiwan but flashed the European BIOS with no problem.
     
  22. whit3h4t

    whit3h4t Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi.
    Its not same laptop, I have 5720-6124
    My BIOS version is the last (1.34) and i got it in European site too.
    I'm waiting for solution.
    [ ]'s

    whit3h4t
     
  23. andyasselin

    andyasselin Notebook Deity

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    Vt is just hardware asstied virtual machine it shound have nothing to do with be able to run 64 bit os if you cpu is 64 bit you be able to

    what virtaul machine software you runing
     
  24. goofball

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    I tried VMWare, last 2 versions. Haven't tried Microsoft Virtual PC however. I can run 64bit OS, but not in a virtual machine.
     
  25. whit3h4t

    whit3h4t Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thx Goof.
    I Have the same problem.
    My notebook is running Vista Ultimate 64bits, but it can't run 64 bits guests in VMWare (version 6.0.3.80004).
    I think we need send massive e-mails to Acer support, perhaps in this way they solve the problems of thousands of customers (dissatisfied and nervous).
    For me, ACER NEVER MORE!!!
    [ ]'s

    whit3h4t
     
  26. sponka

    sponka Notebook Geek

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    My laptop works OK -- tried Vmware player with Server 2003 and Server 2008, both x64 version. Have latest bios from european site.
     
  27. whit3h4t

    whit3h4t Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi sponka, thx for reply...
    What is exactly model you have (for example my laptop is 5720-6124 and your is 5920G-????).
    [ ]'s

    whit3h4t
     
  28. NYG

    NYG Notebook Enthusiast

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    Don't know if this helps but I have an Acer Extensa 5620-6830 running Vista ultimate x64.

    Have the latest version of vmware desktop running and have successfully installed/ran ubuntu 8.04 64 bit. Plan on installing windows 2008 server 64 bit soon.
     
  29. whit3h4t

    whit3h4t Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thx NYG...
    Can you post here an exactly specifications of your notebook?
    Its help me to buy other model I sure that have VT enabled.
    [ ]'s

    whit3h4t
     
  30. whit3h4t

    whit3h4t Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi guys
    I back my 5720-6124 and got 5920-6080 with 4GB RAM...
    VT is 100% working, very nice laptop.
    Thx buddies.
    [ ]'s

    whit3h4t
     
  31. cmf

    cmf Newbie

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    Hello guys,

    I recent found this forum about VT on notebooks.

    Sorry about my little english.

    I was learned so far with this threads.

    So, is there a way to know by advance wich notebook has VT support?

    VT support for XEN, or VMWare has to do with not only the CPU, wich Intel´s site is a good source to see if CPU support VT. Almost news CPU does.

    But Motherboard, thru BIOS has to support VT also, like "whit3h4t" said.

    And for thoose guys that can successfully install XEN, or VMWare on thoose notebook with full VT support, wich soft or util do You all need to switch from one OS to another, while in virtualization mode? I mean, did You all need a second additional hardware (PC, or another notebook) to perform the task i´m asking?

    Thanks in advance for the reply.

    cmf.
     
  32. Business Man

    Business Man Notebook Consultant

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    Anyone know if this has been enabled on the Acer Aspire 5720?
     
  33. Business Man

    Business Man Notebook Consultant

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    Anyway help?
     
  34. der_mali

    der_mali Weihnachtsmann

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    Check which BIOS it has and then search for a BIOS modding thread.
     
  35. Business Man

    Business Man Notebook Consultant

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    Sorry can you provide anymore info on this? Which thread?
     
  36. maxim_fr

    maxim_fr Notebook Guru

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    Timeline's 3810 have VT enabled in the latest BIOS 1.14
     
  37. NotWhatIPaidFor

    NotWhatIPaidFor Newbie

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    Last year I bought Acers flagship DTR the 9813 this laptop was good for my needs in that I could bring Virtual Machines home and work on them. I have since upgraded the OS to Win 7 Ent 64, this means I can no longer run ANY VM on my laptop due to the BIOS setting for VT not being present and VT disabled as default. I have contacted Acer asking them to release a BIOS that allows me to use all the features on the laptop, after various support calls with inept customer support people.
    I have decided to take Acer to the small claims court (I'm in the UK) for the price of their current flagship laptop the Aspire 8935, if Acer don't contest I get what I paid for (eventually).

    I suggest that everyone do the same and force Acer (and Sony) to give us the product we purchased and not some chipset nobbled equivalent.
     
  38. henshaw11

    henshaw11 Newbie

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    I just got a reply from Acer UK to a 'which models support VT' and got pretty much a proforma reply with a few little gems such as

    "For all Acer products currently shipping and planned we advise that you visit www.acer.co.uk for full information on our products, warranties and where to buy. In addition there are large amounts of information on many non Acer sites and a quick web search could well find you the information you are looking for.

    Very informative that was :eek:

    >We are confident that you will be satisfied with your Acer product and if
    <snip> or our pre sales enquiry desk on 0870 853 1005.

    Yup, tried that, can't tell me, they don't know - to paraphrase: "we're not the manufacturer, we're a support company, the manufacturer doesn't tell us anything"

    So I guess I'm back looking at Toshibas (unless I can get an answer from the US bunch...)
     
  39. dextrorotatrix

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    Well, what did you expect from Acer??
     
  40. mindrunner

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    Hi All,

    Just FYI, I purchased a 1410 - 2285.

    Its a CULV Celeron SU2300. It *might* come with Intel VT enabled by default.

    I say might because I had problems loading the kvm_intel modules in Fedora 12 Beta , as well as Ubuntu 9.10 i386.

    After that I updated the BIOS to v *something 120.

    I can now run Virtualbox with VT support, as well as load the kvm_intel modules on Ubuntu 9.10 x86_64.

    So go figure :)
     
  41. dextrorotatrix

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    I can confirm that VT is enabled in AS1410 SU2300 ........ did not need a BIOS update here
     
  42. Business Man

    Business Man Notebook Consultant

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    That's good to hear but my Acer 5720 needs an update, my CPU has it I've confirmed it on the Intel website. I just need to turn it ON!
     
  43. djpailo

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    Why can't they just enable it. What do they gain from not allowing us to enable it? Seriously, do we have a case to sue them or what?
     
  44. ecoholic

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    Did the box specifically say Runs Intel Virtualization Technology?
    other than that I would think not...It translates to added tech support that they do not want to deal with. :(

    I wonder if my 5230(t7500) or 5517(amd58) will do VT? I replaced the Celery with t7500 in my 5230... At boot it says no microcode update found for alternate processor but other than that I can see both cores and works fast!