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    What is wrong with AMD??

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by marilyn6, Jun 2, 2005.

  1. marilyn6

    marilyn6 Newbie

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    Hi, I want to buy a laptop with amd athlon 3400+ CPU, but guys in store says that laptops with amd 64 processors are not good idea because it can be really hot and notebook get really hot, and they say that these notebooks can be very noisy. The says that notebooks with A64 Cpu are'nt stable enough.
    What do you think about this???? Please help me? Do you have these problems???

    PS. The notebook is Acer Aspire 5014WLMI ( Athlon 64 3400+, 512MB DDR, Ati X700 with 128MB, 15,4 CrystalBrite screen).
     
  2. danbrow

    danbrow Notebook Geek

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    What I think, well let me tell you. To me a laptop is a device that should be able to be carried anywhere with out a forklift, battery should last more then 5 minutes, and it shouldn't cook your legs well the _Lap_top is on your _lap_.

    So why did people buy this super high end laptops is beyond me. The type of system your looking at should be in a Mid-size computer case, not in a laptop.

    Centrino is what a laptop should be, good battery, great performance and for the most part a great price.

    Though I don't like any AMD product, it's not AMD that's the problem it's the customers and the manufactures that think this CPUs need to be in laptops.


    Just my $0.0025,

    Dan.
     
  3. X24

    X24 Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't mind the AMD processors, they do get a little warm, and battery life is in the 2-3 hour range, but they preform very well. If you are gunna be taking it with you everywhere, then don't get an AMD 64, get a PM. But if you don't have to take a laptop with you everywhere you go, go ahead and go with the amd if you like it. It really just depends on how mobile you are, becuase most lappy's with amd's are ment to be desktop replacements only going places when they need to.

    ~Emachines 6805~
    AMD 3000+
    512mb
    60gb 5400rpm
    Radeon 9600 64mb (going to OC)
     
  4. Artwjp

    Artwjp Notebook Consultant

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    You should buy the AMD Turion 64, which is AMD's answer to Intel's Pentium M for thin-and-light laptops. Its power comsumption is about 25W, lower than that of the Pentium-M (Sonoma, 533 MHz FSB) at 27W. The AMD Athlon64 M is going to be phased out on laptops.

    Good products to look at with AMD Turion 64 are Acer Ferrari 4000, HP LiveStrong L2000 and Averatec 4100 series.

    Good luck with your choice.
     
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    danbrow Notebook Geek

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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by Artwjp

     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by danbrow

     
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    creature Newbie

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    For desktops I recommend AMD; they are cheaper, better performance, great for gaming, more overclock friendly, more widespread 3rd party software, and generally more tweaks.

    For laptops the case is not so simple, I think the centrino is the better choice, for the reasons mentioned by the others in this thread. Sure AMD is cheaper, and they are better for gaming, but centrino seems more stable, they draw less power, less heat and more 3rd party support.


    Some interesting reading that might help you in your choice:

    Tomshardware has a nice article about the Pentium M, (mind you Tom has always been known for favouring Intel over AMD):
    http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20050525/index.html

    Article from Anandtech of the AMD64Turion:
    http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2374

    And finally an article from Anandtech comapring the Pentium M and AMD64 (note this is not the AMD64Turion but it still seems very relevant):
    http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2129&p=1
     
  8. chimp_spanner

    chimp_spanner Notebook Enthusiast

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    See, my laptop - it's basically a desktop machine - I often use it with external mouse and keyboard, and I'm thinking of investing in a second screen. But for lectures, I can still whip it out from the mains, take notes, yadayada. When i come back and plug it in, it's ready for multitrack audio recording and processing! So I don't think that power should be the preserve of desktop machines at all. It's very convinient to have desktop power...when it's on your desk, but have the option of portability. That's just the way things are going now.

    But that's just *my* £00.02 :)

    For what it's worth, desktop wise, I'm AMD all the way. But my Centrino notebooke (2012WLMi) has been a great workhorse this last year, even though it's Banias core is pathetically outdated. Still packs a punch. To be fair though, when it gets hot...it's hot. I don't care if it's supposed to be cooler lol the darn thing melts my legs off. But only when I really push it. General usage...very cool and quiet.

    www.soundclick.com/chimpspanner

    http://chimpspanner.heavenlymediaservices.com
     
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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by danbrow

     
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    Wow some BS going on here. You can't say an A64 will automatically give you a hot laptop, if its well designed it will be slightly heavier and a bit warmer with 2-3 hours battery life but the tradeoff is for higher pormance and full 64bit compatability which is going to start mattering soon.

    A good one is the Acer aspire 5014 with a 3400, 512mb of ram, 80gb hdd, 15.4" sceeem, x700 mobility radeon and dual layer DVD. At 3.6kg and a 2 hour battery life its a more restricted mobility machine but at £750 its not bad.

    Initial 5020 specs have it at 3.07kg with a 3 hour battery life with a turion.

    The whole fsb of 1.6ghz is BS its the HT at 800mhz doubled, the motherboard nor the memory are not anywhere near that.
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    Acer aspire 1694 (UK) 2ghz P-M, 1gig DDR 166mhz (upgraded), x600 128mb, 15.4" widescreen, Dual layer DVD-RW, PCMCIA audigy 2zs (upgraded), 100gb 5400rpm seagate momentus HDD. CATALYST BETA TESTER