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    v1.40 is out!!!

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by elbubi, Jun 10, 2008.

  1. elbubi

    elbubi Notebook Consultant

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    I´m arriving home in a few hours, I´ll try it tonight and tomorrow will post my experience.

    Regards!!!

    P.S: Excuse my double post, I edited the previous one five minutes ago and now it does not allow me to edit it anymore, don´t kwow really why (log out, cleared cookies, log in (twice)) (browser related for sure)
     
  2. elbubi

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    Cold boot issue also over here... :(

    Guess we´ll have to wait until v1.41 sees the light, or try out painful suicide :confused:

    P.S: Triple Post!!! Way to gooo!!!! :p
     
  3. bigozone

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    multi quote of TRIPLE POST (d@mn i'm good)

    i think i'm gonna go back to 1.33
    that will solve most of my issues

    sorry to hear it.....
     
  4. elbubi

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    I´m considering just the same, the fact is that with 1.33 sound issues are really anoying... (God how much I HATE Acer Bios developers, every fix involves one (or more) new bugs...)

    Are we two the only ones with this f*****g problem??? I wonder if Xp has something to do with this...

    Kind Regards
     
  5. bigozone

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    i do think they are ignoring the XP problem reports since the laptop didn't ship with XP. i think it's thier way of rationalizing the actions of just ignoring us!

    just my oppinion

    bigO
     
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    You mean there is no such problems under Vista? This is weird.....but also could be..S-O-Bs

    Edit: But I did have the 'incorrect temps' issue with Vista too..can't try it now don't have Vista anymore, I'm still waiting for my hdd to arrive and dual-boot again :(
     
  7. bigozone

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    maybe those writing the BIOS files are just a tad slow??

    it took about 10 BIOS updates before they totally solved the sound problem,, and then those changes opened up 2 other problems....

    d@mn them.... get it together ACER
     
  8. elbubi

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    Excuse me this time my dear Bigo but I have to strongly disagree with you...

    Just a "tad" slow???????? :p :p :p

    P.S: I do not intend to insult/offend anyone, it just makes me so sad not being able to fully enjoy my great Acer... :(
     
  9. mooler

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    back to 1.33 with i8kfan because i was having overheating issues with 1.33 without it. Fan always runs on low speed giving me temps of 30c which is really nice but i am plugged in to AC. Dont think it would be too nice if i was mobile. That seems like it could drain the battery. I am thinking about going back to vista because i really had no problems and vista was comparable in performance but it just takes up so much space on my hd. just ranting on a drunken sunday night/monday morning
     
  10. mooler

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    No you are not. My HDD is factory and i have experienced the same thing...i have also experienced HDD lockups when resuming from standby. I am so confused on which bios is the best I have flashed and reflashed different versions at least 20 times already trying to pinpoint issues.

    I was using 1.4 but now back to 1.33
     
  11. bigozone

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    others are reporting issues with vista too especially this COLD BOOT problem and the Hibernate problem (i think the 2 are a result of the same bug)
    and as far as the FAN goes... you'd be suprised at how little the fan actually drains the battery especailly when it's on low speed..

    that's why i disabled sleep, standby and hibernate on my machine... while this is not a great solution especially for most people... it resolves the need for the I8KFANGUI,,, because the fan only fails to work when comming out of sleep, standby, or hibernate...

    the cold boot issue only happens to me when the laptop has been off for OVER 6 hours... like a capicator has drained and it must be recharged by attempting to boot... then after a forced shutdown and then rebooting it acts perfectly normal... very strange.... but it's not just an XP issue according to some of the things i've been reading

    i'll try to find some of the things i've read and post here for others to refrence

    EDIT::

    post # 902 --- 1k post party comming up this weekend
     
  12. elbubi

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    Hi again guys

    Bigo and others, how much time do you wait (and curse) before re-starting it when cold boot does occur?

    I have tried from 5 to 60 seconds between them, but lately I have to start it two, three, and even four times to get it to boot correctly. I think today is my last day within v1.40, guess I´ll be turning back to v1.33 (I can´t wait to put up with stuttering and slugishness!!!)

    It´s such a disappointment having to choose between failures, solving which one you dislike the less... The natural should be to choose between failures and fixes, shouldn´t it?

    Kind Regards
     
  13. bigozone

    bigozone JellyRoll touring now

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    i feel your frustration...
    i personally just turn my PC on and let it set for 30 secs... then hold power button for 5 secs to force shutdown.... then immediatly power back up and it boots properly... how that info helps you...

    are your booting probs worse than that??

    Acer needs to get thier **** together!!!

    bigO
     
  14. elbubi

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    I do it just like you, but I wait a bit more 'till the second retry (about 10 to 30 secs., i´m paranoid ' bout hdd´s health, and I feel I´m kind of "playing" with it with inmediate turn on after power off), and yes my booting probs are worse than yours, I have to repeat that procedure at least 2 or even 3 times to get it finally started.

    Will definitely downgrade to v1.33 tonight.

    As usual, regards :)
     
  15. bigozone

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    sorry to hear your problems are so extreeme
     
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    You know BigO sounds like you might have a driver problem on boot.

    Have you tried a format and clean install with certified drivers ?

    Just a thought.

    My 5315 with bios 1.34 boots fine with XP home.

    James
     
  17. bigozone

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    problem happens BEFORE the HDD is even accessed.... so i don't see how it could be a driver... but all my drivers are certified,,, and even a clean install has the same results....

    funny thing is that if the laptop has not been shut off for more than 6 hrs the problem doesn't occur

    but thanks for your input.... i wonder if a HDD DELAY @ BOOT might help??


    later
    bigO
     
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    It's not a driver for sure. About this hdd delay..I don't think this will work..By the way, when you have a 'cold boot' what happens on the screen? Just freezing? Blank screen? Please don't tell me you have 'quick/quiet boot' enabled..
     
  19. jc55

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    From the odd idea have ya'll tried the oldest bios that supports your processor ? Maybe there's a compatability issue inserted by acer to stop processor upgrades or maybe just a mistake on their part.

    James
     
  20. bigozone

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    i resent that comment about quick boot ATTHEGATES... you should know me better than that ;)

    of course i have it disabled... still get only a black screen
    like that thread the other day where that guy's bad HDD was preventing POST

    well that's what i have happening...

    i get a BLANK BLACK SCREEN... if i open the DVD and insert a disk the HDD light on the quick-button bar flashes as if trying to boot from it... maybe i should try a bootable disk....
    anyway that black screen will sit there for hours

    but if i fource a powerdown then instantly reboot all is fine
     
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    Man, this doesn't make any sense..what is this, not enough power or something..? Weird..

    Nice signature btw :D
     
  22. bigozone

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    thanks on the SIG..

    tomorrow morning after the PC has had time for power to drain,,, i'm gonna remove the HDD... then attempt to boot off a CD and see what happens

    cause it's just like that other guy's post where his HDD was preventing the PC from completeing the POST

    i'll have results posted by noon tomorrow


    bigO
     
  23. jc55

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    Hey BigO suppose it could be a power issue due to the grey socket.
    You know no real connection to pin, tumb tack made.
    Does it happen with the celeron in it ?

    James
     
  24. bigozone

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    it doesn't happen with other older BIOS veriosns

    but i'll try that too

    the thing is i have to wait 6 hrs between tests for the problem to occur
    and from intel's PIN OUTs listed in a PDF, that pin is shown as unused....
    for all memroms
     
  25. elbubi

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    My freeze "stile" varies from total blank screen to input boot password screen, stoping sometimes in the middle of those two (staring at Acer´s full screen logo).

    Other simptoms are identical to Bigo´s.

    Regards
     
  26. bigozone

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    go into your BIOS and disable QUICK BOOT,,
    and disable the BOOTUP PASSWORD

    if get's rid of the ACER SCREEN

    then i bet your symptoms match mine
     
  27. elbubi

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    Hahaha undoubtely, I have it enabled now cause I have the feeling to find if it helps, but the answer is a biiiiiiiiig "NO".

    Btw: Are there any Quick Boot drawbacks???

    Kind Regards!!!
     
  28. bigozone

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    you just don't see the ACER screen... instead you see data about your CPU, RAM, HDD, APCI version (you may slow boot time by 3 secs while ram is tested)

    all on a black screen

    i just want to see if you get any text on that screen when COLD BOOTING

    so report back
     
  29. elbubi

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    I´ve tried it, worse than before: it starts normally, shows me the boot info screen and then starts loading windows, and as soon (1 seg) as the "loading windows" screen apears, it freezes and screen brightness goes extremely low :eek:.

    I will enable quickboot/password again, I dislike these freeze even more than the "usual" one.

    Regards!!!
     
  30. jeepman

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    what is the earliest known bios that supports the t5450? I tried 1.4, had wireless and ethernet adapter issues, went back to 1.33......but I would rather just settle for the oldest bios that supports the core2duo socket Ps. Maybe get away from some of this cr*p that keeps happening. Thanks for all the help each of you have given me in the past, especially to bigO.
    Jeepman
     
  31. bigozone

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    that sounds much more SERIOUS than MY issue...
    have you tried an old bios to see if the problem goes away

    once i get a POST SCREEN my problem is over... and it's never failed to load windows once it started

    maybe you should try running MEMTEST+ to check your RAM?
     
  32. elbubi

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    I´ve tested my hole machine and everything works fine, it´s BIOS since 1.34, with previous versions it DOES NOT have any issues booting :confused:

    With QuickBoot enable I do frecuently get Acer logo screen and then it freezes, sometimes I get only a blank screen, it´s random...

    Regards :)
     
  33. jeepman

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    just a thought...couldn't you test the power drain theory by removing the battery, then press the power button? Would that drain the capacitors? Might be interesting to see if the cold boot problem shows up immediately after that.
     
  34. bigozone

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    i know 1.25 supported it, because i just droped a chip in mom's since she was in a hurry.... it booted right up and had no problems... so she left my house before i could talk her into the 2 minutes a BIOS FLASH would have taken

    as far as older versions.... i have no clue
    read the changelog.txt and see when memrom cpu support was added

    bigO
     
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    i've just read the last few post on this thread.
    could there be an issue with your boot sector on your hard drive.

    thinking out loud again.
    Phil :D
     
  36. bigozone

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    anytime it makes it past the ACER logo, and begins the bootup sequence,, you should be past the cold boot issues as i've known them....

    if i were you i'd try removing the RAM and shorting those two PINS that hoggie was talking about in a different post.... that will cause your CMOS to forget everything it knows...

    then replace the RAM and see what happens....
    it's very very strange that w/o the ACER screen you can get it to boot part of the way into windows... and then locks up

    but after shutting down and rebooting (a few times) it does finally boot....

    i'd also do some serious HDD testing and defraging...

    that is just the weirdest thing i've ever heard!!!

    bigO
     
  37. hoggie

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    it does sound like a bad sector.
    if you could get to a cmd and run scandisk. or get a 98se boot disk and run scandisk of that.

    now thats loud :D
    Phil :D
     
  38. elbubi

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    Thanks indeed for your advices guys, but I´ve already did that and everithing is just fine (not the CMOS short). I´ve reverted back to 1.33 and cold boot is GONE FOR GOOD. I repeat, it´s undoubtely BIOS related since v1.34.

    Btw, I did also encountered wireless issues with v1.40 (random disconnected)

    Regards!!!

    P.S: Will v1.41 solve ALL known issues??? Mmmm...
     
  39. bigozone

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    i'm not holding my breath....

    thier history is very suspect
    at times i think about going way back to v.121 or something
     
  40. elbubi

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    I do also often think about "downgrading" to v1.19 (my factory BIOS), with that one the "ONLY" issue was sound stuttering and general sluggishness... :rolleyes:

    Now with v1.33 I´m putting up with those symptoms too... :mad:

    Kind Regards :)
     
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    hello everyone. Stumbled upon this thread and tried to flash my aspire 5315 to v1.40. Downloaded the package from acer-euro. And proceeded with the windows flash. It showed a progress bar and completed all opeations then turned the laptop off. Now when I restart the laptop it goes to windows loading screen and a second later gives me a blue screen and reboots. Tried booting into safe mode and last known good config to no avail. How do I get back to a good working BIOS version, and any thoughts on what happened during the 1.40 install?
     
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    What's your OS? Can you see what exactly is the error message?
     
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    are you using xp without Sata drivers? if so when you flash the bios it reverts back to AHCI (SATA) -- you need to go into the bios and change the hard drive setting back to IDE
     
  44. blindside1234

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    Mooler was right. I had my son look at it (computer whiz) and he saw that it was reading my HD as IDE and that the bios reverted to AHCI. Should I be using the SATA drivers? or just simply use IDE?
     
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    IDE is fine. Installing the SATA Drivers after installing xp is a bit tricky. with sata you may get a little performance boost and maybe a little bit more battery power. Search the forums for "Installing SATA Drivers after Installing XP" if you wanna take the plunge. Otherwise if you not experiencing any problems, i would leave it as is
     
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    @elbubi, I hear you talking about sound issues with 1.34 and about a cold boot problem at 1.40.

    First 1.40 is not official released and 1.34 is the last and I've this one.

    Try VLC media player and set the sound to DirectX out and not by the direct sound service. This helps me alot and only in the first 5 minutes after a cold boot some plops in it, but I'm thinking about to buy me a USB headphone. Have these things a own dedicated sound card onboard or is there a bus from sound to USB? My meaning is to bypass the original sound chip with this headphone so I've better sound and no more plops.
     
  47. bigozone

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    1.40 is or was officially released thru the support.acer-euro.com site

    you'll find nobody here relies on the panam site for drivers or bios files since they lag about a month behind the euro site
     
  48. elbubi

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    Bigo has pretty much answered for me ;), However, thanks indeed for your kindness dude.

    Btw: Sound stuttering (and general sluggishness) are/were Bios related, no matter which program/codec/output you use to play sound :(. Luckily v1.34 has solved it, but as v1.40 it has brought new cold boot issues.

    Kind Regards!!!

    P.S: Can´t help you with USB headphones, but as far as I know they do not include any external sound card as to avoid using your onboard one. If you want so, may be you shoud try buying one Pc-Express sound card.
     
  49. Rogresalor

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    I've another experience on this.

    I can't finf 1.40 on the europian ACER site and I'm not quite sure this BIOS suits for me and I dpon't want cold boot problems because I've none.

    DirectX out helps here and it differs in quality compaired with WMP 11.

    I still believe you of course and I only wrote personal experiences ;)

    That's a reason I start asking about a USB headphone and at this point looking for an external sound card (Xpress54). I don't want the nasty things of 1.40 and not the slugginess of 1.33.

    It is a compromis. I'll read your cold boot problems again before I make a discission to flash or not to flash it. I've flashed the BIOS here twice without any issue.

    I'm very glad you're here so I can read first all posts before doing things I get regret of.

    Is the 1.40 suited for the Aspire 7520?

    That sad smiley after your wrote. Just give VLC a try, I'm be honest and this helps me very good. VLC is an old player, but there are many ways to interact with the soundchip.
     
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    Even if you had no problems with the internal sound, a nice USB soundcard will always be better :)
    It's not in the list...It seems that v1.33 is the latest for Aspire 7520. It could be ACERs fault for not including it(forgot to include?) but I wouldn't risk it.
     
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