what processors can be installed to an acer 8930g?

Hi
I have one of the higher end specs of the 8930g but it is struggling with simple stuff. Even FireFox can get CPU to 100%!!

I recently bought a hauppauge hd pvr and when I tried to edit video it became very slow!

It has quad core 2ghz processor 6m cache 1066fsb. When I paid £1200 for it I would have thought it would he more than good enough for stuff like this. Would upgrading the processor fix this problem?

If so, is there a list of which processors would be compatible? I have 4gb RAM and 1tb hard drive space...

 

might be cheaper to sort the software out

 

Using Sony Vegas pro which is meant to be the best for HD video editing.. it says on their website recommended 2.5-3ghz

 

I doubt that they mean Quad core at 3GHZ ! What Graphics card ?

 

They don't seem to specify graphics cards ?

You appear to have enough processor and RAM for this application . . I would look at updating graphics drivers and general system set-up first. Moving from Acer's graphics drive to the latest radeon mobility release (10.3 at that point) gave me a 3x improvement in 2D graphics speed for instance

 

Sony Vegas does not use that much and neither does Firefox. I ran Vegas Pro 8 fine on a C2D T5800~2GHz. What conditions have you been running it under? FYI, best CPU for 8930G is QX9300~2.53GHz.

 

Can you check if any processes are using high amounts of cpu power? It might be some underlying process causing trouble, as your hardware should be more than powerful enough for the tasks.

 

Hi,
Have to tried making sure the CPU is set to maximum in the
empowering technology.I know this sound silly but the amount
of people whom have had this simply prob is unbelievable!!

 

Hi

Thanks for all the repliues. My grahics card is not radeo it is nvidia 9600M GT 1GB RAM (Dedicated). I have the latest drivers.

I have the latest drivers for everything, perhaps my processor is faulty then? I am getting even normal internet usage using 50% CPU and sometimes 90-100%! Even as I type this now I have 1 tab open in IE and 1 other program and I have to wait for a few seconds for the words to appear after I type them!

I am editing HD video and not normal SD video for which you need a much slower processor, their website says 2.5-3ghz for hd video editing..

Is it normal for 13 processes of svchost.exe to be running? Sometimes that tkaes up processing. I have 4Gb RAM and 1TB HDD. I was originally using windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit but it was fairly slow so I decided to instal 32 bit because of more driver support but it is about the same.

I am thinking of buying either:

p9700 2.8ghzor an x9100 3ghz But would these be a downgrade from my q9000? I do not use my laptop for gaming and I have been told that only games really utilite quad core and dual core would be better if the speed is 1ghz faster with same cache and fsb..

I spent so much on this laptop because I thought it would be futureproof for a good few years but it is just really sluggish. I cannot even watch youtube video without it stuttering if I put it on HD (not it is not my internet speed I have 50mb). I also have an issue with sound, audiodg.exe can get to 100% CPU usage and it just crackles my sound up, so I have to turn all the enhancements off which in turn loses the great 5.1 surround speakers to just crappy tinny sound which I cannot hear properly unless I use headphones.

Is it worth me buying the acer warranty and then look at getting it repaired? I am really getting the feeling my processor is broke or overheated? Anyway if someone could answer if any of the above processors work with this laptop I would be grateful.

Cheers

P.S Full Laptop Spec:

Acer Aspire 8930G
Q9000 Quad core processor 2ghz 1066fsb 6mb cache
1TB HDD (2 500GB)
Blue Ray
5.1 Surround sound
18.4 inch screen
4GB DDR3 RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT 1GB

P.P.S Yes I always have my laptop at max performance in battery setting and only usually have it plugged in and never use is mobile..

 

I have just noticed something in my settings. It says 4GB installed but only 3GB usable, why is that does anyone know?!

Also I did a screen print and it says

Physical Memory

Total 3069
Cached 1816
Available 1741
Free 0

Does this mean I have 0 free memory of my RAM? I would go back to 64 bit ultimate if there was more driver support for things but there doesnt seem to be for some reason. Most computers have 64 bit processors now so they should have more driver support. Not sure if my Hauppauge HD PVR would work with 64 bit OS or would the 32 bit drivers work anyway?

Anyway screenshots uploaded see what you think

 

If your using a 32 bit O/S it will only recognize 3GB ,4GB and up for 64 bit O/S.
Is your CPU speed set to maximum in Acer epower management and Graphics
power mode also set 2 maximum?.I'm not referring 2 your power plan!!

Make sure you download Acer epower management and set all to maximum.

 

From that snapshot it looks like your newsgroup and bit torrent clients are using up what free CPU they can get hold of - you might need to take control of these if you are losing too much CPU to them on a regular basis.

Not sure what par2 is but if it is the parity tool then this will be CPU intense as well and you may need to consider how you use it.

 

Don't worry about the lack of free RAM in Task Manager - Windows Vista and 7 treat your RAM as a cache, and piles every single thing it thinks it needs into your RAM. When a program needs more, it adjusts its cache. Free RAM is wasted RAM.

Read more here.

 

i`d say you have something running in the back ground thats doing this, changing the CPU wont help as the CPU you have is more than capable.

delete any software you dont really need and dont have stuff running down near the clock that you dont need.
alot of people install software and leave it running all the time in the background when they use very little

 

Hi

I only turn these on when I am using them. At the time I was using them but I hardly do. I use utorrent once a week to download Lost because I cannot wait until it comes on Friday here lol

PAR2 is just a repair software to repair broken rar files.

 

Hi Cheers

I generally turn everything that I am not using off, I generally have task manager open a lot of the time too, just a habit I guess..

I have a very old laptop which can handle Firefox with hardly any cpu usage yet this one frequently goes very high cpu usage, the longer I use it the more I have an issue too so maybe it is an over heating problem? I bought it as a desktop replacement though and use it a lot...

Power and all settings are set to max and max performance. I am going to install windows 64 bit again.

I have a feeling that my processor is faulty, I cannot even watch youtube video without it stuttering, that is not right! My phone has a 1ghz processor on it and plays youtube better!

I thought that the Extreme Mobile Processor X9100 3.066ghz doesnt work with the 8930G? I was gonna get one but was told what I have is the best for this laptop?

I do not want to send it back for repair because I need it for work so I am going to buy another processor, if it doesnt fix the problem then fine Ill just resell the processor and take the loss on it but if it does then great!

What are the best processors for the 8930G (both quad and dual core)?

Cheers for your help

 

you were told wrong, the x9100 runs great in the 8930g as mine and afew others on here show.

 

I just installed windows 7 64 bit again and clean install with none of my software had 34 processes running. I have installed most of the software I use and it is currently 54. I did not realise software uses processes when not even running? If that is not true, why would the running processes jump up?

Also none of them are taking up any CPU % but I am not sure if this is why I am having CPU issues or not?

 

This any good?



Intel® Core?2 Duo X9100 OEM SLB48 3.06Ghz 6Mb >T9900 on eBay (end time 03-Jun-10 21:29:53 BST)

Is £230 the price I should expect to pay for one? Are they a LOT better than the q9000 or just a bit better? Just saying as mine is quad but this is duo. But not many software companies utilise quad do they? I do not use it for gaming other than football manager or some rts games.

 

I am assuming that after you re-installed the OS etc that the problem is still occurring.
Regarding processes - Windows runs everything within one or more processes and in general you can have a large number of processes consuming apparently 0% cpu resource. However any one of those existing processes, or a new one can consume all of your cpu as a reaction to some event.
Those earlier screen shots do not really help diagnose the problem you are having as 60% of the CPU was consumed by processes you do not normally run. I suggest you provide some screenshots of the problem occurring when you are not running the torrent and news clients.
In addition I am still a bit concerned with the PAR2 utility. It may not be the tool I think it is, but if it is then this article could be of interest setting par2 to low priority. Notice the writer states "Par2 needs all cpu power your PC can offer and this happens for some time, maybe hours."
I would want to sort the cpu issue out or prove a better cpu is required or you could end up spending cash with no real gain.

 

Hi
At the time I was repairing a rar file with quickpar so that is why it appeared, I rarely use it though.

Generally I have problems when I am using firefox and trying to watch embedded video, it becomes very stuttery and then causes firefox to be using nearly 100% of cpu just for one tab!

With video editing, it takes 4 hours to encode a video and when editing them it is very bad because it takes the computer 1-15 seconds to react to what I wanted it to do...

I might just buy that processor on ebay, it is only £230 and everyone I spoken to has said they are better than my q9000 but the odd few have said the q9000 is better lol

 

I ordered the processor, got it for £209.

Someone has now said it is a lot worse than my q9000! I am being told different things!

Some say most programs do not utilise quad core processors so a higher speed dual core would be much better.

Then others are saying that is not true and even a 2ghz processor quad is better than a 3ghz dual core.

Which is the truth?

 

It all depends on what programs you're using.
If the programs are mostly single-threaded, and thus can only use one core at a time, then the faster dual-core will be better.
If the programs are mostly multi-threaded and designed for more than two cores, then the quad-core would take the performance lead.

Firefox should NOT be taking up 100% of CPU in one tab regardless of dual- or quad-core setup, however. I think we're solving a symptom without getting to the root of the real problem here. Give me a few minutes to review the topic.

EDIT: OK, my thoughts on the topic. Because your whole system is slowing down in performance AND responsiveness, even after a full system refresh, I'm thinking that it's a thermal downclocking issue. Nickc24, could you do me a favour and download & run ThrottleStop from here? Keep the ThrottleStop window open, and when things get sluggish, check the Chip% column - if it's anything less than 100%, you've got a thermal downclocking problem. Follow the rest of the Definitive Guide post for help, and take measures to help your system run cooler; things like cleaning air intakes and fan exhausts, changing the thermal compound, undervolting, etc.

It can be normal for svchost.exe to have multiple instances running. It's Windows' way of dealing with a bunch of services running in the background.

The audiodg.exe thing is also symptomatic of a thermal downclocking issue - that used to happen to me as well. Audiodg.exe's CPU time is not a problem itself, just a symptom (that and uTorrent should never use that much CPU).

The reasons those processes are still running when the programs aren't vary from program to program; some may have a monitoring service running in the background (like an anti-virus), some have an updater or quick launch service to speed things up (Java and Adobe, respectively), and some just sit there. This is not really a problem at all.

 

How do I know if the programs are mostly single or multi? Where can I get this info from? Would it be on adobe's website along with the other? I generally use a core set of 5-10 software and that is it.

Since I have installed windows7 ultimate 64 bit it has improved quite a bit. I have been able to render video a lot better.

But I have 1 issue. When I render with sony vegas pro, after 30-40 mins of rendering my computer just turns off! I think it might be over heating and it turns itself off to protect itself? It just goes off as if you have pulled the battery and plug out!

As I type this, I have around 20 tabs on firefox open (the norm for me) and using only 3-5% of cpu. I have done some tweaking to speed things up (turned un needed services off) and it seems a lot better other than the over heating issue.

I have already ordered a replacement processor though because I believe for the software I use it would be better to have the 3ghz dual core rather than 2 ghz quad. If someone can convince me otherwise Ill cancel my order and save the £200 lol

The software I generally use are:

Adobe DreamWeaver
Adobe PhotoShop
Sony Vegas Pro
Ulead (Coral) VideoStudio x3 Pro
Chrome
Firefox
Thunderbird
Safari
IE
The odd game (generally things like football manager)
Microsoft Word, Excel and sometimes Outlook

When Rendering video I always seem to get at least 80% cpu usage (most of the time over 95%) and it makes the rest of the system really slow, but I can still browse internet but not watch video. I think a lot of people have the same problem when rendering as it uses the cpu up a lot as well as the HDD. Is that normal for rendering to take out the cpu like that? Am I doing the right thing changing to 3ghz duo or should I keep my q9000?

I have been using this throttlestop for around 1 day so far and have never seen the thing go below 100%. I have set the minimum and maximum processor state to 100% it was already set at that though.

Thanks for the advice...

 

You'll usually be able to figure out if a program is multithreaded by how much of your total CPU load it occupies - any more than 100/# of cores you have means it's at least using more than one thread.

Jeez, that shutdown is the blatant hint that you're overheating! Download HWMonitor, check the idle temperature, then watch it when encoding video. If your idle's in the 60s and your full-load's in the 90s, you've got a cooling issue.

Most of those are single-threaded applications to the best of my knowledge, except for the video rendering/encoding applications. Those are certainly multi-threaded, and benefit greatly from having multiple cores.

Rendering/encoding video is highly CPU-intensive, so having it occupy 80-100% CPU (and cause your CPU to heat up) is not out of the ordinary, if not outright expected. Depending on the configuration of your software (whether or not it can use all 4 cores, and I suspect that it can), you might be better off with the Q9000. Check in Options under Vegas and Ulead for a number of processing threads option, and see what it's set for.

 

Send back your laptop if in warranty.
If you have to work, temporarily find another PC. Because important work must not be carried out on unreliable machines. What if it restarts while you are in the middle of something important ?

Everyone might suggest running additional diagnostic softwares. But its a pain to run additional programs like throttle stop and HW monitor which you shouldn't be running in first place if it were a healthy laptop. You have paid £1200 for it.

Sit on Acer support's [] and get your motherboard/laptop replaced.

My honest reply afterall I had 8930G before

 

your right there
thats what i did with my 8930g, with the standard CPU it came with (2.2ghz 6600) it was fine but with the x9100 it would randomly blue screen
i sent it back and they replaced the motherboard, its not crashed once with the x9100 since i got it back

 

I would if I could. I just cant do without having the laptop for any amount of time. The companies prey on this and know a lot of people need them for work and hope they just buy another one...

Since I installed the new processor it has been much better...