m18x and m14x links (in UK)

But is no longer supplied by intel.

I said intel does not do a mobile cpu with more cache. You could not go to them and order one.

And seriously, you would have prefered they used a QX9300 instead of the 2920XM?

They have a combined cache, which means the individual amounts dont need to be as high. They also have a built in memory controller so cache misses are not so bad.

 

No CPU will be in production forever,agreed.
I never said I would prefer it over the SBs, it's just that the way you said it the first time sounded like an impossibility (having 12Mb of cache be it 2x6 or 12x1 lol), that's all.

Cheers

 

Theres only one way to settle this...

FIGHT !!!

 

go subzero.....

 

Lol, there will be none of that.
I personally post here with a smile on my face every time.
Some online debates tend to be confused with 'fights' but that's the 'forum effect'

 

Ah but in the end I was right because I was very careful how I said it.

Intel do not currently produce a mobile CPU with more than 8mb of cache (hint: its performance per watt advantage is not high enough).

They DID do one with more total cache but they don't currently do one.

Orders stopped on the 25th of march.

EDIT: However since I am a really nice person, if someone wants to swap their M18X for my machine, then I am sure we can come to some sort of arangement lol. It does have a full 12mb of CPU cache.

 

I wasn't being serious.

 

but Meaker seems serious

 

Oh, brother QX9300= 12Mb cache [the end]
@Laxxi: I know, bud, don't worry
@blaster: empty your pm inbox.

 

a bunch of threads in the gaming, just read one

 

US links are getting close:

m18x

m14x

 

Yep and they dont do the QX9300 anymore.

Also I suspect that the integrated graphics core is taking up some space that would have been cache.

 

It looks good for the 555M. Though I am sure it is going to depend more on the game.

Bad Company 2 and Battlefield 3 are my current show runners and on the desktop side nVidia holds the advantage there.

 

oh damn, i cannot wait for this!

 

Considering the developers said BF3 will push consoles to the next gen of hardware, I don't know if a 555M will be able to max out BF3 at its native resolution... a 555M is a pretty big step down from the current gen of desktop hardware

 

I am not expecting a miracle from a GF106 derivation. I took a look at the 900p GTS 450 Bad Company 2 benchmarks on Xbitlabs and scaled down the performance.

It is quite acceptable for 768/900p gaming. Bad Company 2 ran well enough on my old Radeon HD 4830 @ 1680 x 1050. The game really does benefit from more cores and even hyperthreading on a dual core.

 

IIRC, Hyperthreading actually hurt BFBC2 since it wasn't written for it - at least on the desktop quad cores, unless they've patched it in recently

 

I am unable to find my favorite CPU scaling benchmark but it did compare dual/quad core processors from Intel and AMD. The Core i3 540 was a noticeable boost over the Phenom II X2 555.

Here we can see Core 2 scaling and Nehalem. The game does taper out at 4 cores.

 

Then it was definitely true for the higher end i5/i7's with 4 cores/8 threads, because those didn't see appreciable gains w/ hyper threading, since games actually have to be written to take advantage of the extra threads

 

As I mentioned before the game does taper out at 4 cores, physical or logical. A hyperthreaded dual core will see improvements over a simple dual core. Though it you would have to disable this feature in order to test it.

I am surprised that I neglected this benchmark suite earlier. The Core i7 2630QM is overkill (It does appear to be the stock processor for the M14x). Not that the Core i3/i5 2xxxM models were not either. You are quite fine with a Sandy Bridge dual core for gaming and should frankly concentrate more on the video card in your notebook.

 

Probably been asked before, but is the GT 555M in the M14x, GDDR5 or GDDR3? 96 shaders or 144 shaders? 128-bit or 192-bit? Confusion here.

If it were 144 shaders, 192-bit, AND GDDR5, plus the 2630QM, well, that's quite a performer! I would be much more interested then.

If not, well, we'll have to see the numbers!

 

The links are also available in Belgium:

M18X

M14X

 

I really like the SLI kicking in rather than cross fire.
They can keep both 460 and 485 so that people who want 485 can take it.
Also people keeping cost in mind can forget Alienware to some extent.

 

No 3GB Nvidia option in the UK??

 

Crossfire scales better than SLI... You have to look at which games you play to decide which is best.

 

Looking at the GTS 450 is a bit much, as that chip is just north of the GTX 460M's performance.

 

Quite right, the GTX 460M is much more comparable to the desktop GTS 450 give the shader and clock speed compromises of the 555M. I must admit I was a little too optimistic.

Today's Radeon HD 6570/6670 launch makes it much easier to compare AMD's mobile line up. The HD 6570 drops in right between the mobile 6750/6770M.

 

I bet 3gb is a marketing gimmick to get more money out of the customers. Do you even know what the 3gb version of gt 555m is for?

 

3GB is a marketing gimmick... 2GB is useful at 2560x1600 and higher resolutions and is found in high end desktop cards only, 3GB on a GT555M is a waste pure and simple

 

More VRAM = useful for Triple Buffering, actually. I don't know that we can quite use 3GB of VRAM, but definitely the 1.5GB available in the 460m.

 

I used to think that high amount of low quality VRAM benefits video editing. But recently I found out that's not true. So yeah 3GB is marketing bs.

 

Here is m11x R3 link..

The Dell Online Store: Build Your System

 

M11 and M14 are there:
Gaming Laptops - Alienware High Performance Gaming Laptops | Dell

They should be offering the Sibeam and M18x. Still waiting for that.