[Guide] 580m GTX throtting fix. No need to modify system Bios.

Only with stock clocks, when overclocking it drops to 0.87, only GPU Z and Inspector report 0.92

With Nvidia Verde 196.10 WHQL everything is normal.

I meant 296.10

 

Could you do a few runs using the newer 301.24 driver just so I can see that it is genuinely going to 0.92v on stock.

 

It stays in 0.92 then after 30 sec. it drops to 0.87 when using firefox it stays in 0.92 all the time. Nvidia settings Max performance.

 

Hmmm very strange. I guess the newer drivers weren't meant for the 580m's. I'm on the 0.92v one so I never saw the change. Thanks for letting us know.

 

Yes. I have just had a new card installed so I wanted to test it all out at stock and it does briefly show 0.92V.

Update, the stock bios drops to .80 when in P1 (overclocking), I'm thinking the modded BIOS also matches the P state voltages as well as the clock speed so you see 0.87?

 

if both 3d power profiles are not set to .92v and same speeds you can get throttling. if one is .92v and other is .87v it would do that and if both are flashed to .92v then what if inspector its not setting 92v just the same on one profile out of the two 3d clock power profiles in the vbios/card. or maybe the new beta is effecting overclocking using that software...? just some thoughts.

 

I think you're right about the driver mis-identifying the card.

Looks like this might be part of Nvidia's new 'burst mode' technology and starting using 'up to' speeds in the numbers game on new 6x series cards, but the voltage part is kicking in so prob a bug?

 

I think because the driver is ready for GPU boost, in older gen cards, it will attempt to boost which causes the volts to go up when fully running. I guess you're right.

 

Wizdezu69 dude i want to know why this happen i whant to Overclock my 580m to 900Mhz/1900Mhz and my temperatures are no more than 65C or maximum 68C but in a few minutes after start the games stip working and the clocks downs to P12 why? is there a fix? for that? or idk what to do because i whant to play Metro 2203 at Very high with no probelms

 

no way on the 900mhz core for gaming purposes...it will crash and or driver itself will cause a crash in most gaming scenarios... if your top dog and freeze those suckers you might bench 900core on 3dmark11 by miracle but in real games esp Metro,Crysis,Witcher,Skyrim and more you will need to be much lower try atleast 820mhz core and down... mine are way too hot for 820core to work on .92v but atleast you'll have a starting point on where to game from or less
Widezu you run yours 24/7 .92v gaming gpu gaming clocks what speeds? or for gaming and everyday r u on .87v?

 

dude i run that games at 900Mhz only for a little time because i dotn play hours -.- and when i stop playing i over lockit to 620MHz...

i dont let my Card at 900...

 

Pictures if GPUz graphs or it didn't happen

@mw I run 800/1800 @0.92v 24/7.

 

lool I agree !! And benchmark @ 900mhz core !

 

benchmark? pum i cant run the 3Dmark11 i dotn knwo why...
Proofs:

http://img.techpowerup.org/120414/nvidia_20120414_165931.png

 

I don't just want the GPUz front page. I want to see the graphs on the second page proving you can stress the card at those speeds.

 

how can i show you that? playing the game?

 

In the sensors tab of GPUz make sure you check Log in the background and run an intensive game like BF3 or Crysis 2. Tab out and screenshot that page

 

okis n.n i will do it

 

Your awesome thanks again Widezu... whats the most stressful game you play that in for reference... thanks again Widezu. Mine i found to be Witcher 2 Ubersampling. havent ran Crysis 2 yet but its sure to be either Crysis or Witcher 2. Oh and whats your max tremp you usually see when set like that?
Thanks again widezu you rock

 

Yes The Witcher 2 with Uber Sampling is super stressful and not necessary really when gaming. I just turn it off and use regular AA

Max temps 65C

 

i Always add the Overlocks because i love to see all the potential of the games and well i am a HARDCORE GAMER!

 

same here Cheers my friend

 

yes dude i mean i am paying 2000 dollars to play at maximum with out probelms

 

lol exactly... seems Widezus lucky i can't run My Sli 580's at 800core without black screen on strong games... but i use the most settings I can... I noticed white artifacts stock volts at 675 core just earlier, it went away with the 92v vbios but no way can mine do hardcore gaming at Widezus levels... nice temps Widezu even vsync on mine can get into the 70s easy on 92v... its not the paste job i was very thorough....

we didn't pay all this money to keep one thing stock hehe... I know I didn't

 

bro i play at 850 and 900MHz jajaja with out probelms XD! and y only get 65C jajajaj

 

lol not sure... Widezu's system 1 580m mine is M18x 2 580m in SLI... maybe SLI puts more strain on main GPU... i think it does... either way all cards handle different... I couldn't imagine play at 900-850 lol

 

i playy at 900 ^^ Metro 2033

 

Hi guys,

I cant seem to flash the vbios, i keep getting the following error in the cmd.

 

Where are you getting -b from? It's -4 -5 -6.

 

hey just a quick question. i just got my m17xr3 back from being repaired. it was a busted 580m. is the vbios flashed onto the actual graphics card? since i got a replacement 580m will it have the regular vbios?

 

Test it out. If you can let the graphics card reach around 70C without any change in clock speeds then you don't need the fix

 

@widezu69: You are the BEST mate. I think Dell/nvidia should hire you and we will never get stuck with these STUPID problems. Cheers to you lad. I wish I could rep you again.

 

Have you guys gotten this e-mail? I got this from dell today. Should I go for it?

 

Wow, that is awesome that they are being so proactive. It really demonstrates their commitment to customers. I say yes, definitely take them up on the offer.

 

No reason not to, this is why we pay top dollar for this kit and a big show of commitment that Dell are taking this seriously .

I wonder if this is going worldwide or only in the US?

@Dell_Bill: I know you are no longer working AW but did the 'enthusiast Fan Profile' request talked about ever go to development?

 

So let me get this correctly, they shipped m17x r3 with bad heatsinks for the 580m and now they are trying to replace them with new better heatsinks?

Didn't follow 580m issues since i went with 6970m

 

I don't think so. They are offering this as more of quality control as factory assembled stuff was really bad. Dell want to make sure that everyone's heatsink and pads are fitted nicely that's all but they have to officially document it and they are calling it a heatsink replacement. I think it's great on their part

 

Damn, my warranty is OUT and now I hear this. If you guys can spare me an "extra" heat-sink, it would suit me just fine.

Keep us updated guys.

 

Yeah this is in worldwide. I'm from Malaysia

 

I don't buy that, they just never ship something without testing that's just not how it works in big companies, specially for something that is easily noticeable like throtting.

unless it was a nvidia fault not dell like how the older 8000 series caused a lot of troubles to apple/hp/etc in that case Dell would be forced to ship nvidia option for those who want it and in case of troubles nvidia would handle/pay for all damages

 

I'm guessing you haven't been following the 580m throttling situation these past months then.

 

I did say i didn't because i went with 6970m, whatever is the cause there is no way dell have missed it, they shipped it knowing the issue so all the "omg they are nice free replacement" only courage companies to be not clear with their buyers and misguide them

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_recall

 

It is not because Dell missed it dude It is because Dell caught it with excessive testing in their system and recognized r3 is not able to cool 580m...

 

It's alright I know. I didn't mean any offence I was just messing

No Dell were unaware that there was at first throttling @ around 65C for some cards that drew more power than the rest especially those who overvolted, which the guide on the OP fixes.

The Dell system bios actively throttles any nvidia card @78C. A lot of people can keep their temp under control and hit this limit but some still do. After a few people opened up their systems, they saw that the factor paste and pad job was awful. Our good friend Dell-Bill helped out with getting thing in motion so Dell could come up with a fix. Them offering heatsink replacements is a good thing as when technicians arrive, customers can make sure that the heatsink is pasted and padded nicely. This is just quality control albeit a bit late but users can still benefit.

 

I have followed this thread for some time now, having the same issues as everyone else, but my GPU temps have been steadily increasing to the point of complete system lock-up the last week or so, I had not received the email that uGinn posted so I called tech-supp and they are dispatching with a heat sink so if you do not receive an email and want the replacement just call dell.

 

Dell just changed the heatsink for me. It seems now when I reach 60 degree celcius , my game drop it's frames on 90++ to around 15+ for around 5 seconds.

This occurs when the fan started blowing loudly. Whenever my gpu fan blows loudly for around 2-3 seconds , my fps just dropped. Is it my gpu problem now or the heatsink problem? Should I contact dell for further assistance?

 

Sounds like you are hitting the power throttle. This can happen at any temp. Have you tried the modded VBIOS to match the P0/P1 clocks? If it is this problem then the VBIOS fix will cure it. You can also use NvidiaInspector to set your P1 to match P0 if you are not comfortable with flashing.

You can use msiafterburner to display your clock speed and temp in-game. If your machine is stock you will see the clock drop from 620 to 4xx (forgot what the stock P1 is!)

 

I don't recomend the overvolt... Just use the matched profile P0 and P0 on stock .87v since you had thermal issues... I had similar heat issues and for gaming Revelator posts make the most sence to me... Good temps and a decent range in performance... Pushing high clocks with .92v draws much more than 100watts but on the .87v with a fair overclock it still isn't going to be drawing much over 100watts. So for testing leave stock volts and clocks but make P1 state use .87v at 620core etc... Should be a download in the OP

 

Guys is this normal? I'm playing mw3 on 1280x720 resolution and at the lowest graphics option. Am still having unstable fps..the gpu usage used to be around 99% whenever I play any games a few months

ago. Now it only stays around 10-30% usage of the gpu. I have done the vbios fix already. This is really making frustrated. :facepalm:

 

What do other games do in gpu usage currently?