AMD 10.12 Reference Drivers now out... Discussion thread is here

I mean the new 10.12 video driver is still not supprot crossfire in NFS14.I use the M17X r2

 

Im gonna have a mini rant....

Why the HECK cant AMD release the SAME kinda support for its mobile gpu's as for the desktop variety....do they think that we DONT want to try the new CCC WITHOUT having to jump through hoops to do so....why do WE have to try and figure out a way of installing both the driver and the newer UI when desktop owners do not....

Am i not right in saying that our counterparts are more expensive than their desktop equivalents? ..... they havent really paid that much attention to us regarding drivers etc in the past so maybe im expecting TOO much.....

WOuld have just been nice to have been given the option to test this out but oh no....AMD deem that we mobility owners arent worthy of the option....

AMD are really beginning to get on my bleep bleep bleep nerves....saying CAP4 improves 3dmark 11 x/f performance....bull.....c'mon AMD, pull your finger out your preverbial and give us the respect we deserve as probably, your highest paying customers ......

End of rant....im sticking where i am with 10.11 UNTIL they can release a package for us mobilty owners.....AMD SUCK.

 

not so long ago there were no driver for mobile card at all i think we are doing good so far and i understand they don't wanna push beta into the mobile market

 

Perhaps i was being harsh but just annoying that these high end mobility cards do not seem to get the support that desktop variants get....i know the desktop market for AMD will be ALOT bigger but these are high end cards afterall and support, i feel, is due.....just hope it comes soon with a package we can utilise without the need to mod desktop ccc etc...

 

Stevie, sorry for the OT, the cap4 you mentioned before on your rant (i think you are right anyway, this is expensive hardware and customers who spent big money for it, deserve proper support. Period.) are compatible with 10.11? where can i find them if is not too much asking?

 

i agree with you that we are not getting the kind of suport we should get but it's going in the rightway

 

I´m not interested in a new CCC skin. I´m interested in a load time fix for ETW/NTW on crossfire, New Vegas to work on crossfire, absence of negative scaling on NFS HOT Pursuit on crossfire. I suppose I´m not getting any of that.

I´m kinda disappointed with AMD. I was expecting at least a decent driver support. I´m pondering trading my 5870Ms for GTX285s now. What´s the point of having more power if you can´t use it?

 

The latest 10.12 CAP's can be found here - if you have any installed, make sure you uninstall them first before installing the latest ones - can be done by add/remove....

http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/crossfirex-app-profiles.aspx

10.11 CAP 4 can be found here: http://www.rage3d.com/cap/

 

Fallout new vegas works very well with crossfire !

infact, its one of the few games that runs flawlessly on my machine, although i liked oblivion better, but hey, ... whatever works right

Have you downloaded the latest application profiles? might be the problem

 

It doesn't for me. I use drivers 10.11 with CAP3 profile. CAP4 does nothing new so I didn't bother. 10.12 is a beta driver and there are Starcraft 2 issues with it.

Crossfire logo shows in-game, but GPU-Z shows there's no activity from second GPU (stuck with 100MHz clocks). Still get 60 FPS but even so...

 

Ok, so.....seems like we can have 10.12 drivers but without new ccc (officially) or we can mess about and install the desktop ccc beta that many people cant seem to get working anyway.....

We can wait till AMD launch a proper 10.12 with new ccc for mobility....god knows when that will be.....

On a side note, from what ive read elsewhere and on NBR, alot of people report that 10.10e modded desktop drivers work pretty well and have an option for Morphological antialiasing (MLAA) and are also newer than 10.11 whql drivers.

Anyone here tired these 10.10e's that are available from here: AMD Mobility 10.10e Hotfix - Guru3D.com Forums ??? - if so, can you let us know how you found them to be

Cheers

 

our screen refresh rate is 60, so i dont think you will get something good from more FPS cuz you wont be able to notice it on your screen

TBH i wouldnt count on GPU-Z to read the clocks, specially of the second GPU, ... download HWinfo32 and use it to monitor the temp and load of each GPU, you will find that the load is divided between them.

GPU-Z sometimes gets stuck, if you close it and open it again it will show the correct value, ... but try hwinfo32 and let us know

 

Hey, no sleep issues with any of you guys running this version?
My laptop keeps restarting from sleep after approximately 20 seconds.

 

Tried with HWINFO32. Same thing. No temp change on GPU 2 with crossfire enabled. =/

Updated to 10.12 and newest profile. Same thing.

True that 60 FPS is the max difference we can notice. But I get some occasional FPS drop to 30-40 after talking to some NPCs. Think with both GPUs running the game on full power I'd get a more smooth experience.

 

Might you have a faulty crossfire cable? - does the secondary heat up with any other application or just on one?....if it doesnt heat up running vantage etc, then somethings wrong with the hardware i would imagine....

 

Nah my bad. Just noticed. Crossfire wasn't enabled if playing on window mode. I was launching the game windowed to check those temps in real time with GPU-Z. Launching the game in fullscreen, I noticed later on hwinfo32 log there has been temps increase on second GPU. This playing New Vegas.

Might have to do with that bug about alt+tabing or running on windowed mode automatically disabling crossfire.

 

Having trouble with these drivers with World of Warcraft: Cataclysm. Frames used to stay at a solid 60 fps with vsync outside of Orgrimmar. Now they're in the 20s and 30s everywhere.

 

Black Ops: Not your fault. Or Dell's. Or your hardware.

 

I would be interested in this.

 

black ops as always worked fine for me as long as i didn't leave anything "application managed"

 

i just upgraded from 10.5 to 10.12. Now when i run LOTRO full screen its lags alot. If i play windowed its fine. Im sure there's a way to force full screen crossfire but i dont remember how to do it. any ideas?

before:
Driver Packaging Version 8.763-100810a-104118C-Dell
Catalyst™ Version 10.5
Provider ATI Technologies Inc.
2D Driver Version 8.01.01.1059
2D Driver File Path /REGISTRY/MACHINE/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Control/CLASS/{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}/0000
Direct3D Version 8.14.10.0775
OpenGL Version 6.14.10.10151
Catalyst™ Control Center Version 2010.0810.2122.36491


After:
Driver Packaging Version 8.801-101125a-109591C-ATI
Catalyst™ Version 10.12
Provider ATI Technologies Inc.
2D Driver Version 8.01.01.1105
2D Driver File Path /REGISTRY/MACHINE/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Control/CLASS/{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}/0000
Direct3D Version 8.14.10.0798
OpenGL Version 6.14.10.10362
Catalyst™ Control Center Version 2010.1125.2142.38865

 

disregard, i found it.

 

Cheers Joker,

I downloaded your .rar file, unzipped it and installed....first time it didnt fully install the new CCC even though i got a new tray icon, no new UI.

So, I did what you suggested....opened up the file and navigated to CCC (thats the right one wasnt it?) and ran the setup .exe in each of the folders within (Fuel, Fuel 64, core-static....every one....not sure which ones so i did 'em all...)

After I had done that, I navigated to the main setup.exe file and ran that...

All went through as normal (i think lol) and after a restart, i now have the new UI or CCC2.

Thanks again for your invaluable help....+rep again....(losing track of how many now )

 

I just can not figure out how to get the new UI / CCC to load, I have tried following all the steps to no ends. Can someone do a step by step for me

 

Can tell you what I did:

1) download Joker's .rar file and "un-rar" it using a zipper...(i used 7-zip as it was free but winrar or the like is fine obviously)....the un rar'd file is then in your location of choice (mine was desktop)
2) Uninstalled all my ati stuff via add/remove...custom uninstall...select everything. (Basically till i was back at Standard VGA display drivers - looks awful but there ya go!)
3) Reboot into safe mode
4) Run ccleaner for files and registry
5) Run driversweeper for ati display and clean.
6) Rerun steps 4 and 5 while in safe mode.
7) Reboot into normal mode...you may get a message "querying for WMI data....i just ignored it and then on the next popup, clicked quit instead of continue)
8) Double click Jokers file and let it extract....you will see it extracting on the catalyst installer....when thats done, the installer will be giving you two options to continue or cancel...click cancel to exit install. (it will give you the option to continue or cancel at this stage)
9) Go back to the file you unzipped...double click on it, double click on packages, then double click on apps and you should see a folder "CCC" - dont be fooled as Joker renamed the original CCC to CCC2a....use the CCC folder.
10) Double click to take you to the next sub folder where you will see the following:

Branding, Core-static, etc etc....

11) Double click on each folder (one at a time) and at the very bottom of each list, you will see a file to install (its named windows installer btw) double click and follow on screen prompts.

12) Do step 11 for each of the files that you saw (Branding, Core-static etc) - some may only be applicable for desktops but I ran the .exe for each one - i think Aristotlehs only did a few of them if you check back to page 5 of this thread.

This will install all the .msi files that the new CCC needs afaik....and at this point, you are ready to resume installation of the catalyst package with new UI... i "think" i restarted into normal mode again...(from recollection) after step 12 and then did the following:

13) Go back and open Jokers original file that you unzipped earlier by double clicking on it.....you will now see a list of folders and at the top will be "bin64"....second file from bottom is the main setup.exe....

14) double click the main setup.exe file to start the full installation and follow on screen instruction....

15) I chose custom install and selected everything available...

16) Resart and enjoy the new UI!

Thats all i did, if you need more info, drop me a PM or post back.

Stevie.

PS..all credits to Joker for uploading his install files.

 

It worked, I just had to use Driver Sweeper this time. I guess I had alot of crap built up. Thank you to everyone

 

Godddammit!!! - took me like 20 mins to write that lolololol; - just kiddin') .....glad your set now...nothing extra special, just looks better and easier to navigate i think!

Enjoy - Merry Xmas!

 

These drivers are awful for me on my M17xR2 (with VBIOS upgrade). After installing them every time my system went into power save it would stop responding. I had to roll back to 10.11 to fix it.

Anyone else experience this issue?

 

Check your hardware in Catalyst Control Centre to check that the vbios flash worked on both cards....maybe that has something to do with your performance....sounds like your system is still suffering from the sleep issue but it shouldnt be if the vbios flash worked

 

Hey how do these drivers run with BC2 Vietnam? I'm still using 10.11 and even though it runs great I still get some weird glitching on load up

 

I hardly ever drop below 60 fps in BC Vietnam with everything on high + 2xMSAA. Oh yeah, so far BC Vietnam is more enjoyable than BC 2 itself.

 

Has anyone seen positive gains from these drivers over the Dell ones?

 

I only have a single 5870 and when I rolled back the problem went away.

I didn't have any issues with power save/sleep until I installed 10.12.

 

Hi,
FYI - I made a new clean install of my system yesterday with 10.12 ATI driveres and profiles and I played Civ5 for an hour today and no problems at all.
My system I7 740, Dual5870 in Crossfire Mode on, SSD, 1920 RGB LED, 4gb ram, etc.
No overclocking or other mods active. No issues at the games i played since yesterday incl.
Drakensang
Oblivion
Civ5
Napoleon Total War
Dirt2

Greets

 

This is really getting on my nerves now! lol

Ok, so i did a clean install the other day, nothing that wasnt needed or warranted...i installed 10.12 after chipset drivers....everything went well after that...

Scroll forward to last night where i leave the room , come back and the laptop had restarted after BSOD....went into event viewer to see what had happened...this is what i got...

Bugcheckcode 59 and something about sleep in progress false....ive spent a while trying to open the minidump but its locked (im the only user and obvioulsy admin too??)

anyone cast some light on things?

I have the latest vbios installed correctly (shows under hardware tab in CCC correctly....)

Im a bit at a loss, anyone else have sleep problems with 10.12 drivers?

 

im having sleep issues with 10.12 too. wakeup from sleep, if no BSOD, you'll loose the ability to control LCD brightness too.

 

let me try to put it in sleep and i'll report back.

I'm rolling 10.12 and of course lates vbios

EDIT:

Did the try, no problem as far as i can see (brightness works fine, on osd too) I did put it in sleep with fn+F1, there is any other way to do it?

I'm just running 10.12 drivers and CAP's no CCC2 (i don't know if it matters but just for the records)

 

Im getting the EXACT same thing as you.....IF it does wake from sleep successfully, then i lose the ability to dim down the brightness using Fn&F2...(it will allow to dim "up")...sometimes it works but most of the time it doesnt.....

This is on a CLEAN install.....i was using 10.12 with new CCC, have just clean installed again and just installed standard 10.12 without new CCC that i d/l from AMD to flash prior to OS install...thre only thing that i did to the package was to insert the HDMI driver from the desktop package into the driver folder of the mobility AMD ones (to ensure I had a AMD HDMI driver as opposed to microsoft driver)

Just completed updates and all drivers (also Eset SS4 a/v)....done a defrag/optimize with Auslogics free defragger and thats where I am up to right now...

Right now, just re-opened the lid and it worked fine, as did the brightness keys....

I will be testing it out thoroughly today with lots of "sleep/resumes" to see if i can get a BSOD out of it....I think if i DO get another BSOD, i will be ditching the 10.12's and using 8.763...

Seems very odd that there are lots of people using 10.12 but not reporting this issue....I cant have done anything different but we will see.....

 

Well i solved mine by changing DDR3 Volting to 1.5 and CPU vCore to Default.
Try this,
Boot into BIOS(F2) -> Advanced -> Performance Options -> DDR3 Voltage : 1.5 | CPU vCore: Default

Regarding the Brightness of the Monitor after sleep issue. I too have this problem, it starts just after 3rd sleep or 2nd if im unlucky.

 

Well, I have done 7 sleep/resumes today since my fresh install as above. Have been doing it by changing when computer sleeps (set to sleep after 5mins, dim display 3mins, turn off display 4 mins)

Has worked ok up to now...resumed succesfully i mean!.....

Have just done a sleep by closing the lid....re-opened and still working fine but the brightness controls are screwed again....they all worked on sleep without closing the lid...i hate this randomness....

Will carry on testing to see if it BSOD's on me (which im sure it will sooner or later..... )

 

Ok, so done some more sleep resumes....been at it all day on and off (literally lol).

Havent had a BSOD yet or come back to find that the lappy has shutdown after a critical stop....YET....

Ive done about 15 resumes from sleep (lid open, system putting itself to sleep after 5mins) and a few where I have closed the lid and put the computer into sleep manually.

What I have noticed is that when the system puts itself into sleep, upon resume, i still have functionality of the brightness controls BUT when i close the lid to sleep, open resume, the brightness buttons are screwed (dim down anyway FnF5.....)

Will continue to check cos im sure i will get a BSOD at some point...

 

These are my default settings anyway so I dont think that this is a FIX for this particular issue - my DDR3 is set at 1.5v and cpu vCORE is at default already .... didnt change these settings prior to my new install when i was noticing this sleep/BSOD issue - they must have been at the same settings as they are now.

 

This may be a stupid question, but how do you install JUST the 10.12 drivers? Everything I download from AMD / ATI opens the ATI Installer dealio and goes through exactly the same process every time, and nothing changes at all. I'll install stuff, go into the CCC, and all the software and hardware versions and drivers versions are the same.. what the deuce?

 

it has nothing to do with the DDR voltage or cpu voltage. mine are all set to default. it's definately the driver, and it's not just you (steve) and me having this issue. others just dont bother or havent discovered it yet. if it wasnt you who took the iniative to start this thread, i wont even bother reporting it because most people dont really care/they are using dell stock driver/they just dont bother.

 

Im only bothering posting it Alex, as IF people want to use reference drivers as opposed to Dell 8.763, personally, I find it informative to know what the associated issues are - that and I am passionate about my system and want it working "spot-on" wherever possible...it may be something really simple but I will play about some more to see what I can do to eradicate it.....does my head in! - there MUST be something that "triggers" the system BSOD, some kind of setting whereby when the computer sleeps, it triggers this stop error...hence why i will try and play about with various settings in "power options" to see....

Like you say, many people just wont be aware of it...You and I are as we have had the BSOD's using these drivers...

When I first noticed it was when I would leave the room and come back to find a shutdown/restart...power options set to high performance...dim/sleep at default settings (turn off display after 15mins, sleep after 30 mins plugged in)......I dont know, but seems like something weird happens between the time the display gets turned off and the laptop goes into sleep.....

Im still testing out at the moment...around 20 sleep/resumes and no BSOD this time around....doesnt mean it wont!.

The one COMMON thing I have found is that if you sleep by closing the lid, that screws the brightness controls...IF you put your lappy to sleep this way, eventually you will re-open to find the brightness controls have gone FUBAR....every time i have let the laptop sleep itself via auto-sleep (via the timer) in power settings, its resumed fine with brightness working (using my custom plan below) - and has done so on sleep/resume via alienhead button. too.

Im playing around with power settings atm, having "close the lid" do nothing...so the only way my lappy will sleep is either on the auto timer feature or if i press the alienhead. This (touch wood) atm seems to be a rather vague workaround to it but havent had an issue thus far......I have made a custom power plan to test with the following settings:

Plugged in.
Dim after 2 mins
Turn display off 3mins
Sleep 5mins
Close lid - do nothing

Each time I have resumed, no problems - no BSOD and no screwed brightness. It also works with the Alienhead button method of sleep/resume. Obvioulsy, this is applicable to 10.12 drivers.

Im not sure if it makes a difference having the time between display off and sleep dramatically reduced, but no problems thus far...I plan to extend the times later but keep the time between display turn off and sleep to a bare minimum, say a few minutes and not 15 mins as the default "high performance" power plan has.

 

great findings steve. you've tried more possibilities than i have. i guess it's save to say that lid closing sleep is simply not working properly on amd reference drivers. this issue had started (if i remembered correctly) from 10.11 onwards, not just 10.12.

 

Yeah, i recall some misdemeanours with earlier reference drivers....im not saying what i have found is a fix for this but it DOES seem to me that closing the lid screws it all up....gonna extend my timer options in a bit to see what that brings....

No BSOD or brightness failures so far with my custom plan....just hope it keeps going LOL

BTW Alex, if you could test out the same and see if you still get any probs and report back, that would be great!

 

i just posted a reply not realising the thread u started has been closed and combined with the general 10.12. see that's why i dont bother posting sleep issues. people just dont bother. by combining the threads, the sleep issues will have even less exposure compared to before. this problem has been there since 10.11 and now we are at 10.12 and i still cant believe it's only steve and i are having this problem. i remembered posting once in the 10.11 general thread but due to lack of public interests, i decided not to pursue it further.

while i dont agree this thread should be combined, it's the mods ultimate decision to do so.

+rep to steve for taking the initiative to test various combinations. steve, if you are going to start another thread to discuss lid closing sleep issue, i think it's better to name the title "sleep issue with AMD reference driver". that way, it will less likely be closed and combined with general driver thread making your efforts close to pointless and not getting the attention it deserves.

also, i can confirm your findings steve, sleep only has issues with closing lid. cheers

 

Only just noticed that my thread had been merged - I was trying to establish the problems with sleep with these drivers as my title said....it WASNT a general discussion of 10.12 although related. People who search for such problems wont find it now.....maybe i shouldnt have been so specific as to have put 10.12......

Thanks Alex for testing it out, does seem that the issue is with closing the lid....ive been fine all day using other sleep methods. No funky brightness problems or and BSOD's either - thanks very much for trying it out.

I will still post back here with any other findings. - i havent tried using 10.11 or prior....i miagine if it works on 10.12, it should do so with previous reference drivers too....i think the key thing is to NOT put your system to sleep via closing the lid.

Anyway, I have done this for ANYONE who may have sleep/brightness functionality problems using ANY referenece AMD driver http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...-using-reference-amd-drivers.html#post7017276 I hope it helps someone out, like me, who was getting fed up with problems associated with using the non Dell/AMD reference release drivers.

 

When I merged the thread I added a link to your post stevie. When a thread is viewed for the first time, most will review the first post along with the first few pages of a thread before jumping in. Since this relates specifically to 10.12, it belongs in the 10.12 thread.

It will be up to others to confirm as well. Some posted they do not have this sleep issue with 10.12 if I recall. In any case, FWIW, mobile display drivers can be funky at times with sleep. This is the case with several revisions of NVIDIA drivers and I'm not shocked to see AMD drivers having this issue as well.

I'll take a look at your other thread when I have more time and if I can add to it I will.