AMD Catalyst 11.2 Mobility Released! Get yours here

Thats really weird....I was gonna suggest a clean reinstall but you beat me to it....if that doesnt work, i'd be on the dog'n'bone to Dell.....

 

Yup, CAP11.2 is installed. I figured that would have fixed it (missed it at first since I could only find 11.1 on the amd site) but it didn't. Just got home and got it all hooked back up, going to see if ME2 or anything else has issues right now.

EDIT: Just tested out ME2 (flickered), Vice City (flickered), Audiosurf (flickered), Assassin's Creed (fine), HL2 (fine), L4D 1&2 (finex2), Trine (fine), WoW (fine), and Zombie Driver (fine).

 

If anybody know i way to get rid of the flickering it would be really apreciated....

I like the new drivers but they flicker on some of my favorites games (ME2 over all...) Tried BFBC2 and it doesn't fliker...

I may give another try as per Steavie advice. (since it is a more deep cleaning of old driver than what i was actually doing)

 

try messing around with the tessellation settings after your clean install, because that is by far the biggest change i can see. also, u can try to enable vsync within your game, see if that helps.

 

Alex, thanks for the answer.

I do play with v-sync enabled. I'll try to reinstall and to mess as you sugest with tesselation and maybe ati IA. I'll see what i can get and report back. Meanwhile, anyone willing to try ME2 or MoH? just to see if it is a common problem?

 

Yup, took a clean install of everything. Only took me all night. All seems well now....*fingers crossed*

 

there must be something nasty going on with your system before you performa a clean format otherwise stevie's extremely elaborated and detailed method should 100% work. but glad it's going well now. enjoy the new driver

 

Yep. Must have been something not too "happy" about your previous install that wasnt allowing for a simple removal/install of the new drivers.....glad you got it sorted in the end though

 

Went back to what I was using before (10.12) and everything is a-ok again. No flickering in Arkham Asylum, Mass Effect 2, or anything else I saw flickering with while using 11.2.

Side question: Does anyone still have the 10.5 files? Been reading about a bug with fan clocks on the amd forums and I guess it is in all drivers past 10.5 and would like to test this. Can't seem to find them to download though.

 

OOOOK! problem solved no flickering anymore, the games i tryied so far are:

ME2, MoH, CODBO, Metro 2033, NFSHP, Dragon Age Origins, Dead Space 2

The problem resulted to be (tadaaaan!) http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...creen-profile-gives-you-colourful-screen.html

I did a clean install following to the letter what Steavie sugested (repped steavie, as usual, thank you!) Upon the first reboot the Color management was unable to charge the profile from the above post. I did a try with the games i was having trouble with and everything worked fine. After that i redo the procedure of the above post and the flikering was back.. So i reenabled the color control through CCC in order for the amd driver to be in charge of it, uninstalled the profile and the software in charge for loading it at each reboot and now i'm an happy panda flicker free

hope this may help somebody else

 

After reading this I got to thinking, I ran into this problem once before with some other drivers. If you tweak the color settings, things would flicker. If you left them at default, no problems.

So I went ahead and reinstalled 11.2 and changed my colors back to default. Mind you, I never used the stuff from that link Xabaras provided, only adjusted settings in CCC. After setting everything to default, no flickering in anything. Once I tweaked colors again, cuz lets face it the red of this RGB is too damn bright , I noticed flickering again.

So now I'm torn between having my tweaked colors, or using 11.2 for the added features. They really need to remember to test things like adjusting colors before they release these me thinks.

 

Cheers for the +rep fella. Glad you got it sorted in the long run. Just goes to show eh? - everything that glitters aint necessarily gold.....personally, Im quite happy with the RGBLED display without tinkering....it may be a bit "red" but you can play around with CCC till your hearts content.

Shows how something quite insignificant can bugger up your gaming experience!

Try Crylo's tips here http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...ely-calibrating-m17x-r2s-rgb-led-via-ccc.html for using CCC to change how your display looks. I am presuming that as its CCC based, it shouldnt play havoc with ANY Ati driver - I havent tried it using 11.2 or 11.1 yet.

 

Having weird flickering in CoD Black Ops after 11.2. I turned down the tesselation to see if it had anything to do with that, but no luck. It only happens in this game. WoW works fine, as does Portal and New Vegas. I tried turning off vsync and it worked. What's going on?

 

Unfortunatly seems like even messing with CCC color settings will lead to flickering (i've tryied color, brightness, hue, contrast, saturation.. all of them). If they are set to default no flicker at all.

Fortunatly i can live with the default color settings. But would be nice to have the hability to fine tune our screen without having to worry about this issues...

 

I fill this form for AMD catalyst crew. Maybe is worth nothing, may be not. If anybody else is experiencing this issues is just a 2 min task to fill it and we "may" get a solution

http://www.amdsurveys.com/se.ashx?s=5A1E27D27E29B0E3

 

Good thinking and +rep for linking to email AMD about known issues. They cant or wont do anything about an issue if it isnt reported!

 

i've filled the amd survey/feedback a while back, still getting nothing from amd regarding sleep issues.

 

Yeah, same here. Dont know if you have it Alex, but I found DellChrisM's email addy on one of the threads here on NBR. I havent mailed him yet as I have been deliberating it and kinda waiting and waiting for him to pop by the sleep/lid thread I started a while back.

If you want it , shoot me a PM.

 

yeah, i was kinda waiting for him to give us an update like u, dont want to sound too pushy, besides, annoying things like this need time to solve. i guess what we want is not an instant solution or fix (though we do expect that down the road). all we need here is just an update from time to time letting us know that there's progress or work been done. i'll give it another driver cycle (catalyst 11.3) before contacting chris. he knew about this issue in 11.1, so by 11.3, that's a good 2-3 months. how's 11.2 working out for u Steve?

 

Yeah - I too dont wanna sound pushy or needy. Just an update from Chris would be great. I would feel happy then that it hasnt just been "forgotten" if you get my drift!.

Regards 11.2 (and CAP's), I havent installed 'em just yet. I will do, soon.... as I want to see if I get this "flickering" issue too when changing settings for colour managemtn in CCC. That sounds like it could be another glitch because these settings should be readily changeable without side-effects like flickering or teraing etc etc.

How are you finding them Alex? - good/bad/indifferent??

 

Guys if you want me to make any test for you with the 11.2 just let me know.

Tonight i'll be doing some try with them to see if there is a way to fix the wierd flicker. Also it doesn't affect all the games.

one strange things is that BFBC2 doesn't flicker and MoH does flicker.. both of them run the Frostbite engine afaik..

 

From my own testing (a very crude one), i find 11.2+CAP to be really good in terms of performance. i didnt notice any flickering so far because i did not change any colour calibration on my system. however, crossfire does have major issues with unreleased games like "cxysxs 2" (since it's unreleased, i cant discuss more ).

@CptXabaras: your input is definately a welcome. the more tests we have, the more we understand the capabilities of this new set of drivers

@Stevie: apart from sleep, this driver is good for me cause i dont use colour calibration. performance is what im looking for and this driver delivers.

 

x2 on the performance side. I do really like this drivers set.

The game i can test are:

(installed)
Crysis Warhead, Moh, BFBC2, ME2, Dead Space 2, Dragon Age Origins, Metro 2033, NFS hot Pursuit.. ehm... the undergarden! (i love the music and the color on our RGB screen are... wow!)

(Not installed but i can install'em)
Batman Arkham Asylum, Borderlands, COD Black Ops, Crysis, Fallout new vegas, Left for dead2, Neverwinter night 2, Red Faction Guerrilla

I will also try to make some test on the color settings side to see if there is any solution.

Once again if the color settings are default this drivers rocks

 

I wouldnt mind seeing some results for Metro 2033, LFD2, Batman AA, Crysis as I have them (but not installed on my current setup....god, im lazy! - got a rig for gaming and do I game on it much? - gotta have some installed in the first place eh? lol)

If you wanna provide some results for them, I would be made up as I can compare pretty much directly as we have the same setup more or less....(let me know if your results are with OC tho?)

Thanks in advance CptXabaras.

 

You can count on it.

Tonight i'll run metro 2033 (and post the result i get tomorrow) and tomorrow i'll be installing the others. Unfortunatly at the moment, being in the sahara i have internet access only on the field office (it's 21:00 here right now, i'm a little bit tired and have to take the escort to get back to the life camp) (to install my games backup i need to be logged in steam) beetwen tomorrow and after tomorrow i'll have all the result

 

No worries fella, tell you what, thanks for even trying to do this kinda stuff whilst your out there doing your job. My hat goes off to you for your efforts both for your country and for NBR!

 

Thank you mate, but i'm not in the army, i'm an engineer i'm out here for my family more than anything else soldiers protect us here. (i don't feel like i deserve your hat off, but i will gladly dedicate it to those that are out there doing their duty as soldiers)

Any way, i did run Metro 2033 benchmark, this are the result (wich i think are really good)

• Average Framerate: 41.67
• Max. Framerate: 147.95
• Min. Framerate: 10.47

consider that de min frame rate i believe it happends for a fraction of second just at the beginning of the test, actually i didn't even manage to see it. I did notice much smoothness

Settings were: 1900x1200, High settings, AAA, AF4x, Tessellation Enabled, Advanced Physics disabled.

I'm really happy, actually i was averaging 33 fps (if i recall it well) with previous drivers.

Today i'll be installing the others games and i'll let you know.

I did a run of Crysis Warhead, with fraps (that afaik will steal some fps) i got variable fps from 35 up to 60 fps (!)
now i need to understand how to run a proper benchmark with it..

settings 1920x1200, everything set to Gamer.

i'm loving this driver set so far

Edit: forgot to mention that all this is without OC

 

Welp, the drivers and caps from Rage3d installed great and when I started BC2 Vietnam, I couldn't believe what a difference. Of course I just installed my new Intel SSD so I don't know if that helped or what?

 

SSD will help the loading time, and "may" improve texture loading time. But the fps or smoothness boost is all driver side

 

Cheers for the Metro testing fella - sorry, I thought you were in the forces when you were saying about being stuck out in the sahara with sand and dust and of course, your NBR name starts with Cpt (and I thought Captain lol).
Anyway, thanks for the results. I will install this driver set and run the same tests ..... I take it you used the Metro Benchamrking tool within the steam folder/game itself?

 

I'm gonna need some help on this one... Dont understand the use of cap files...

In #1 there's a dead link to a cap-file, so thats of no use. In #8 theres another link to an .exe-file that I have downloaded.

Now to the point where I need help: Do i "just" install the amd-drivers (after removing the old files etc...) and then run the .exe file from #8 ? How do these cap-files work, and do they uninstall if i dont need them? Did do a search on the forum, but found nothing I could use.....

All help is welcome

 

CAP files (Catalysy Application Profiles) are game fixes for certain titles. They are like mini-fixes which enhance how the game runs using the relevant video driver set (in this case 11.2). You should use them with AMD drivers as they are a ever growing library of fixes for lots of different game titles. I would advise that if you use AMD drivers, you use the latest corresponding CAP set (11.2 in this case) to ensure best performance for your games.

Once you have the drivers installed, simply install the CAP's by making sure that if you had any CAP profiles installed before, they are uninstalled via control panel/uninstall program.

Once you have done this, you can download the file from post #8 from Faiz (which is an uploaded file, so you will want to download it) to a location of your choice (desktop or downloads etc).

Then locate that file, run the .exe from it and it should install the latest CAP's for you and then you will be set.

Hope that helps out.

 

i just tested the CAP direct AMD link. it's still working just fine. as for driver, there are two links provided. one straight from amd and one on a public sharing server for those having problems downloading from amd. if you are still having problems with the cap amd link, pm me and i'll provide alternative links to download.

just uninstall everything amd/ati related in your system, use driver sweeper to clean the rest, the setup the main driver, then CAP. that's it. if you read a few pages back, there should be an elaborated guide by Stevie on how to set it up.

 

first page updated with alternative cap11.2 link and a setup guide from Steve (hope u dont mind).

 

Yes i did use the Metro 2033 benchmarking tool inside the steam folder.

Yes Cpt stand for captain but that's another (long) story

just for curiosity here is where i am: N31°57'09,419" E005°12'18,599" we are making revamping of gas compression Plants

 

army engineer? wow. must be one hell of a tough job out there. keep up the good work and good fight mate.

your metro2033 test is indeed a pleasant surprise. that's about 10fps gain compared to the previous driver. im assuming amd optimised tessellation has something to do with this gain. have u tried playing around with tessellation controls?

 

Alex - nah I dont mind at all fella. Good idea mate.

Sounds like you have an interesting job there Xabaras, beats a 9-5 office type job for variation!

Regarding Metro, im gonna MAKE time at some point Today to get this new driver set installed. I think from recollection (although I will run again before i ditch 11.1) my metro results at stock, same settings but very high were a respectable 27fps....im keen to find out myself how it runs on very high with 11.2 + CAP's.

I will make a note of my re-run using 11.1 and post back with the comparison between the two benches using 11.1 and 11.2 - should be interesting but 10fps is a huge markup in comparison to previous drivers!....sounds like these drivers deliver big time if thats the case eh?

 

Thanks Steviejones133, just the basic info i needed to understand what those cap-files were all about.

+rep

 

Just a FYI regarding Metro Benching:

Have ran a series of tests using 11.1 drivers and CAP 11.1 that I have installed at the moment and got the follwing results.

Very High
AAA
x4 AF
Tesselation Enabled
DOF disabled
PhysX disabled

Min = 5.67
Max = 96.46
Avg = 28.33

Same tests but High instead of Very High:

Min = 11.60
Max = 146.39
Avg = 41.33

So, my comparable tests to Xabaras' with both of us using high, but me still on 11.1 shows they are pretty much the same.....I will post back some more 11.2 figures later.....

 

here is my run on very high with 11.2 and 11.2cap

same settings as yours

* Average Framerate: 29.00
* Max. Framerate: 91.12
* Min. Framerate: 7.29

 

These are really good figures, especially given thta Metro is a really demanding game. I might just try and see what extra's i can increase and stay above or around 24fps on v.high....

 

Maybe trying to mess with tessellation control on ccc as sugested by Alex, i'll give it a try

 

Ive just been messing about with Metro whilst im on 11.1 so I can get a good comparison between 11.1 and 11.2

Some more tests:

DX11
Very High
1920x1200
Tesselation enabled
DOF disabled
AAA
AFx16

Min - 5.67
Max - 87.55
Av - 28.00

As soon as MultiSampleAA is enabled FPS takes a massive hit, as with Depth of Field. These were the best figs I could get when trying to max things out and stay above 24 fps average.
Obviously, lowering detail , I got these figs...

DX11
High
1920x1200
Tesselation enabled
DOF Enabled
AAA
AFx16

Min - 8.20
Max - 119.98
Av - 25.33

Just slighty above 24fps average - most settings maxed out apart from MSAA...DOF enabled....pretty good I thought. On Details High, also I could play about a bit and found that I got pretty much the same kinda fps by turning off DOF but enabling MSAA 4x and AA16x.

11.2....here I come lol

 

Should I have it so that tessellation is controlled by the application, AMD enhanced, or should I use the manual settings?

 

Reckon you can just play about with that setting to your liking. Try different settings and see how you like the performance. If its worse, just set it back to default.

Xabaras is playing around with it so he should post back some findings later I would imagine.

 

Ok , installed 11.2 and CAP's no problem.

Just checked the release notes for this and, well, from what I understand (and from the quoted paragraph below), arent we supposed to get MLAA too?

The new Catalyst Control Center features

•Catalyst AI Texture Filtering updates
◦The Quality setting has now been improved to match the High Quality setting in all respects but one; it enables an optimization that limits tri-linear anisotropic filtering to areas surrounding texture mipmap level transitions, while doing bilinear anisotropic filtering elsewhere. This optimization offers a way to improve filtering performance without visibly affecting image quality
◦The Performance setting has been updated to address the sharpness of the default Quality setting causing shimmering in certain cases. It now provides a smoother filtering option that eliminates most shimmering while preserving the improved detail provided by anisotropic filtering.
•Tessellation Controls
◦Supported on the ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series and the AMD Radeon HD 6000 Series
◦New settings give users full control over the Tessellation levels used in applications.
■The default selection “AMD Optimized” setting is intended to set the best level of Tessellation on a per application basis. The “AMD Optimized” setting is designed to help users get the maximum visual benefit of Tessellation, while minimizing the performance impact associated with enabling Tessellation. Currently no applications have been profiled.
■The “Use Application Settings” option gives applications full control over the Tessellation level.
■Users can also manually set the maximum tessellation level used by applications with the slider control
•Morphological Anti-Aliasing support for the ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series
◦AMD Catalyst now includes official support for Morphological Anti-Aliasing for the ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series

I dont see any option for MLAA like I did on the 10.10e modded desktops I have used in the past - where the heck is it? or is it just for desktop graphics and us poor mobility users just dont get that option?

 

Right. Test with 11.2 and Cap 11.2 installed!

Metro 2033.

I am quite pleased with these figures. Although not a huge difference over 11.1, they are better. Xabaras - what drivers did you have before to notice such a large improvement? - im imagining Dell 8.763 right?

Well, ran a few benches of Metro and got the following:

DX11
1920x1200
Very High
AAA
AF 4x
Tesselation enabled
DOF disabled
PhysX disabled

Min - 8.02
Max - 81.59
Av - 28.67

Not too shabby!

I found though that if I enabled DOF, everything else the same, I ended up gettin 20fps as an average, which i think is pretty amazing on my system. I would imagine that those with an XM would be able to easily hit over 24fps and I think even with OC, my system could handle it at that kinda fps.

I think it would take some doing to be able to max it out on an R2 with MSAA 4x and AF16x WITH DOF enabled.

Alex - thats where you come in fella - if you have the game, do your best lol - would love to see some figs posted by someone with an extreme cpu as it definetly is a cpu dependant game.

Other than that, have not done any other games as yet - suffice to say that I think these drivers are definetly an improvement over 11.1, maybe not much but allowing me to run Metro with DOF and get 20fps without any tweaks, Im pretty happy with.

Note: I tried messing with the new tesselation setting in CCC but even turning it off did not result in any better FPS, neither did forcing refresh or changing Cat AI to advanced.

 

Just ran 3dMark 11 and these drivers give a nice boost in that too....im now scoring over 4k at stock.

Result

 

well after being messing around with ccc in order to get rid of the flickering once color settings are changed i think i found the solution

Just leave alone the desktop color managment on CCC (default) and do whatever you need with the Built In Display color control tab. This way there is no flicker at all and still we have the ability to tune ours screens.

I did a few runs with Arkham Asylum, everything max'd out (but physics) Antialiasing 4x and v-sync activated i get

Min FPS 44 / Max FPS 60 (of course with v-sync)

Same as above without v-sync i get as max over 170 FPS on average 59 and minimum 45. Forgot to mention also that i use the mipmap level on ccc set to quality on this game, otherwise the Batman suit will look ugly.

Edit: I get exactly the same at stock in 3dmark2011 as you do http://3dmark.com/3dm11/693499

 

Havent tweaked the colour settings yet, may play with them later tonight. Will also install Batman AA and see how that runs. How does it run for you with vsync off? - any glitches or does it NEED vsync on?

Its good to know that as we have more or les the same system, we are getting the same kinda results on most things. I doubt the 2gb extra ram you have does anything for these kind of figures but I am expecting new HyperX ram shortly....we will see.