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    Alienware M17x R4 Pre-Order Configuration Questions... Ask HERE

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by katalin_2003, May 1, 2012.

  1. Blazeahhhh

    Blazeahhhh Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the quick reply, another quick q:
    I dont want to replace the original hd , but add an ssd , since im just going for a normal 750 Gb 7200 rpm hd. In my old r1 i didnt get the apropriate adapter to mount the ssd in the other available drivebay so i replaced the original HD, do these new r1s come with the necessary parts to install an additional hd ?
     
  2. LeoVainio

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    As far as I know, yes you should have no problem adding your own SSD in. The m17x R4 has 2 hard drive slots at least. If you have a 750 GB 7200rpm HDD, I see no reason why you wouldn't be able to put the new SSD into the other slot. All you need to make sure, is that its compatible. Don't want to buy an SSD which then doesn't fit :p

    But yes, you can add an SSD no problemo. But I'm not the right person to give you advice on specifics :)
     
  3. MUCS

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    Totally overlooked the option for a FHD (1920x1080) LED display...

    Probably assumed this would be the default configuraton.

    Should I cancel the order and place a new one with this upgrade included? The machine is still "in progress".

    Ignore the above post, i pulled the order with the rep and had him make a new one including the 1980x1020 display.

    4 wasted days, I need to start paying better attention.
     
  4. Kyrius

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    Is Killer Wireless 1103 a huge upgrade to the stock wireless card that the m17x r4 offers? Is it really worth it?
     
  5. LeoVainio

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    Not really.

    If you are in a place such as work/college/school where wireless can be far away, behind a couple walls, etc.. then I would suggest upgrading to be safe.

    If you just use wireless at home, or rarely some place else.. no difference really I think. Personally I use an ethernet cable 90% of the time, but I'm still getting killer cuz it fits my budget.

    :)
     
  6. LinkRS

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    Greetings Kyrius,

    I just recieved my R4 with the Killer 1103 card on Wednesday. I am upgrading from an M15x with a WiFi Link 5300agn (which is only 2 streams). On my M15x, my 5 GHz connection constantly fluxuated between 300 Mbps down to 150 Mpbs, averaging around ~230 Mbps on most days. File transfer tend to max out at around 8 MBps. On the same network, my new RF and Killer N has a rock-solid 450 Mbps connection (no fluxating) and I am getting around 21 MBps transfers (both of these values are from my server which is wired in with a GbE connection). It was worth the cost to me, as there is nothing more frustrating than a flakey wireless connection :)

    Good luck!

    Rich S. :eek:
     
  7. Kyrius

    Kyrius Notebook Consultant

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    Thank you LeoVainio for that quick and brief but straight to the point reply ;) Thank you LinkRS for a very informative reply.

    Well, I went on ahead to buy a package of m17X R4 from ebay that had a killer wifi :)
     
  8. LeoVainio

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    One thing is for SURE though. You won't regret it later on. :)
     
  9. Kyrius

    Kyrius Notebook Consultant

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    Well, that sounds good :D Looking at your sig, your M17X is A MONSTER :O
     
  10. LeoVainio

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    I might have to compromise on some of the parts though, maybe I'll get the 3820QM and a SSD + Hybrid HDD but if all goes well and according to budget I could get that beast :D You too! And the 7970m is a monster, I really wanted the 120hz and 3D tho.. it's why I want the m17x instead of m18x. Can't wait to see gameplay and drivers for the 680m tho :)
     
  11. Kyrius

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    Yeah, the screen must be the difference maker for you :p Well either way, I think both cards are excellent. You can't really have the best of both worlds :p One thing im really digging with your M17x configuration is your whopping 2x512GB OCZ Vertex 4 SSD in Raid 0 and 3920XM :eek: I mean wow! Just wow! How much did that cost you? :eek:
     
  12. evoandroidevo

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    Did they add the 3920XM to the site? o_O

    Sent From My Rooted EVO 3D
     
  13. LeoVainio

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    I am ordering mine from Hidevolution.com and they offer it there :D

    Most likely I'll have to get the 3820QM because the 3920XM is seriously $600 more expensive... way overpriced and any differences are not noticeable :p just saying if I get lucky with budget or something I might be able to get it. Getting the 3820QM would definitely allow me to get the 2x SSDs, however I might end up going with the Crucial M4's because they're cheaper. It's either the 3920XM and a SSD + Hybrid HDD... or a 3820QM with 2x SSD's. And I think the latter is the better option.

    AND I just read that the CPU's don't natively support 1866MHz RAM. So instead of 4x4GB HyperX 1866MHz, I'll probably get 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz as there is no difference between the two, the Vengeance are cheaper... and as far as I read, using 2 slots instead of 4 is more stable :p

    Well, I should know what my order is in 2 weeks :D yay
     
  14. Kyrius

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    Yeah, 3920XM is way more expensive. To be honest, 3610QM is enough for me, but I heard you can't overclock it so I went with 3720QM. Now to the Rams. Well, as for my case. 12 GB is enough. 8 is actually good enough for me. A lot of people are telling me that 12 GB is overkill when it comes to gaming. But hey! It fits my budget so what the heck :p Tell me about your GTX 680m once it arrives. Should be a beast!
     
  15. OblastSRT4

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    Yea the 3610QM and 3720QM are pretty similar in real world use. The overclocking is a nice feature to have but you wont really notice that much of a difference in gaming, but its is more futureproof. I only went with 8gb because it sounded like a good number but in all honesty, I NEVER went passed 6gb of ram during my use. I had the Eve online client open twice with firefox and about 15 tabs and still used under 6gb, thats really the most I do. The thing is, ram is so damn cheap that its almost nice to max out your system just because you can lol. I am a little bit jealous of 680m users because I bleed green :(

    While browsing alienwares site I noticed they changed the middle option of the m17x to 2099 from 2044. Not sure if the specs changed though...
     
  16. Kyrius

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    Hahaha, well my friend you are not alone! I bleed green too! Im quite anxious to see my alienware as it is my first to try AMD. ;) I would have went with the 680M till I saw the price. I had to pick my jaw from the floor with that. :p
     
  17. LeoVainio

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    Exactly :D Whenever someone asks for advice with their spec, I always suggest the 3720QM. And for RAM, I always suggest 8GB as it's waayy more than enough, but if they multitask I suggest 12 just to be a little overkill. The only reason I'm getting a super overkill 16GB and 3820QM (you can tell 0 difference between processors/a bit extra RAM), is because I can :D and for bragging rights haha

    And sure, will do! I'll try to get gameplay up on youtube as soon as possible. You too with the 7970m :)
     
  18. mrshorty

    mrshorty Newbie

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    hey guys

    Newbie hoping to join the m17x community soon! Is the following specs any good? And for about $2500 is that too much?

    Alienware M17x Laptop 3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3820QM Processor (2.7GHzwith Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 3.7GHz, 8MB Cache);

    16GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM (4x4GB);

    256GB Solid State Drive;

    Genuine Windows® 7 Professional 64bit (English);

    Slot Load Fixed Blu-ray BD-ROM/ DVD + /-RW Combo Drive;

    Integrated 10/100/1000Mbps Gigabit Ethernet NIC;

    2GB GDDR5 Nvidia GeForce GTX 675M;

    1TB 5400RPM 2nd Hard Drive;

    9-cell Primary Battery;

    Killer(TM) Wireless-N 1103 a/g/n 3x3 MIMO for Gaming & Video;

    17.3" (43.94 cm) 120Hz WideFHD (1920 x 1080) WLED LCD w/3D Bundle; Nebula Red with Soft Touch Finish (for 3D Panel)
     
  19. callmaster

    callmaster Notebook Guru

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    Thanks, figured as much. Let's hope I don't run into too many problems :)

    Here's the configuration I'm going with:-

    Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (English)
    Stealth Black with Soft Touch Finish (for 3D Panel)
    17.3" (43.94 cm) 120Hz WideFHD (1920 x 1080) WLED LCD w/3D Bundle
    16GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM(4x4GB)
    2TB 5400RPM Hard Drive (1TBx2)(Raid 0)
    Slot Load Fixed Blu-ray BD-ROM / DVD + /-RW Combo Drive
    2GB DDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 680M
    Killer™ Wireless-N 1103 a/g/n 3x3 MIMO for Gaming & Video (MY)
    3-year Premier Service with CompleteCover Accidental Damage Protection and Dell OnCall
    3rd generation Intel® Core™ i7-3820QM Processor(2.7GHz with Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 3.7GHz, 8MB Cache)
    9-cell Primary Battery
    Free Alienware Orion Laptop Backpack- Fits Laptops up to 17"

    Will be replacing the 2TB with 2 x Crucial M4 SSDs after I get the laptop. It's either 8 or 16gb ram and I can't choose the processor, comes with the configuration.
     
  20. LeoVainio

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    Everything is perfect except one thing!

    No to the 675m. You can pick that or the 7970m or the 680m for the m17x, but the 675m is the worst one. It's the same as last generations 580m but renamed. If budget is a problem, the 7970m is great performance for cheap price... But if you want 120hz + 3D I would definitely suggest the 680m, it's the best card.

    The 675m is old now, and is the worst card you can get for your 'gaming' laptop. The GPU is the most important component, don't skimp on it.

    And another thing to change. 5400rpm hard drive... Do not get 5400rpm. It is terribly slow! And super outdated, computers from 10 years ago had 5400rpm hard drives. If you can't choose another SSD, or Hybrid HDD.. At least go with a 7200rpm hard drive.

    If you need some more money for the 680m, you could go with the 3720QM CPU and 12GB of RAM... No performance difference there. Except the blazing fast 680m (or 7970m)

    Any questions? :)
     
  21. mrshorty

    mrshorty Newbie

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    thanks Leo

    Have read the 675 is a rebadge of the old card but have decided I have to stick to it so I can try out 3d (which 7970 doesnt have?) and not upgrade it since the 680 is way out of my budget) :(


    As for the 5400rpm hard drive - its only the secondary hard drive. So will store my movies and files on there and mainly use my SSD for OS + games - that should suffice right? I thought 5400rpm drives were reasonable nowadays in terms as technology in them as they arent that much slower then 7200rpm drives and are more 'green' by less power consumption. Would love another SSD in there but there is a budget I must stick to :)

    And with the SSD, whats a reasonable boot up time for the m17x? Is there huge difference in boot up times of a 7200 drive v SSD? I know there will be a difference but are we talking 30 sec? 1 minute?
     
  22. evoandroidevo

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    The 7970m supports 3d whith any external 3d screen with the driver but I think you have to buy the driver to use it and I would totaly suggest going with the 7970m or gtx 680m as 3d gets old having it on my phone and I would also digest buying the sad from newegg or another computer parts reseller as you can get them cheaper and get the 3720QM is enough for daily use and saves you $150

    Sent From My Rooted EVO 3D
     
  23. LeoVainio

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    This shows some pretty big differences in copying files, and boot times.
    MacBook Pro: OCZ 120GB Vertex 3 SSD vs 7200 RPM HD - Speedtest & Bootup - YouTube

    Okay... Just please trust me on this, I guarantee you'll thank me later. Do whatever it takes budget wise, or go a bit over for the 680m. Nothing else matters performance wise except getting a better GPU. Get 8GB RAM, and the 3720QM... a 750GB 5400rpm hard drive. Whatever it takes to upgrade from the 675 :p

    It is a rebadged 580m, so you aren't exactly making the best decision for you Alienware gaming laptop :p GPU is the most important, and it's only a few hundred more than the 675. Reduce your RAM (8GB is more than enough), get a lower CPU (zero noticeable difference between them), and you probably don't need over 1,250 GB of hard drive space :p

    Just reduce some components, and for example RAM you can buy online separately for super cheap and install later. But trust me, you will not regret upgrading the GPU. You wan't a beast GPU for your beast gaming computer.

    Any thoughts? :) Just trying to help out
     
  24. MickyD1234

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    Just my .05c into the mix. If you want 3d but don't want to 'invest' in the far larger cost of the 680 then you've made the right choice IMO. The 675 can cope very well with all the latest titles in 3D so you get to decide if you want or need more later - although much more expensive to buy later :eek: I love the 3D and would never go back - nvidia have me by the .... You might not be so impressed :eek:

    For the HD have you looked at an msata caching SSD? Much cheaper and reports of a 'significant' improvement in load times and snappier windows make this an economical option. For a gamer this seems a good way to go. Does run at a slightly slower speed than a sata 3 ssd but you'll never notice it in-use.
    Win load on my dedicated SSD, around 15 seconds...
     
  25. LeoVainio

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    PHP:
    Of course if you really can't budget the 680m, then you have no choice. But the 675m is still at 580m... and won't play every single game on ultra as well as the 7970m or 680m, ESPECIALLY on 3D which pretty much halves your FPS right. So if you want the best frames, and most fluent 3D experience...

    Reducing RAM, reducing CPU, and saving some money on hard drives... Will save you a few hundred dollars, making the 680m fit into the budget just fine.

    3820QM -> 3720QM = $200 cheaper
    16GB RAM -> 8GB RAM = $100 cheaper
    Saved $300!

    680m = 550$
    675m = 250$
    Difference = $300!

    You will notice ZERO difference between those 2 CPUs, or that RAM (which you can upgrade super cheap later)

    But you WILL notice greatly improved gaming FPS, and 3D FPS!

    So I'm hoping these facts will help choose the 680m over the 675m. As nobody will disagree these changes are SO worth it, and nobody would regret them later. Nothing to lose, all to gain for your gaming computer.

    Thoughts? :)
     
  26. littleone562

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    Good call on those savings.
     
  27. Kyrius

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    I hate 3D. I can't even imagine gaming in 3D. It makes me dizzy :| So I went with the 7970M. Beast of a card, great buy as it is cheaper compared to the 680M. Also a big performance boost compared to 675M which oddly enough seems to be more expensive compared to the 7970M.

    If you are going for 3D Gaming, I suggest go for 680M, way more future proof. ;)
     
  28. LeoVainio

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    Some people say that, but just gotta warm up to it and it won't have any of those effects after a bit of use :p + the 120hz screen is probably fantastic, especially for games like cod
     
  29. Kyrius

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    Very true. :) Either way! I think both cards are great. Just don't go for a 675M. :D
     
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    Agree, I got it more more as an experiment. Knowing i could back it if I hated it, or it caused headaches like it did when I first tried it on my desktop rig a few years ago. I've shown it to a few people (got a spare set of glasses) and all so far think it looks fantastic. It really is one of those very subjective things - some just 'see' it a a gimmick - me, it works great and is very immersive.

    All the talk about frame rate drops are usually correct but I judge it on how the game plays. So far not a single recent game does not work fine at max settings (maybe with a small compromise like a 10% OC or reducing aliasing settings in a couple) :D
     
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    thanks guys - u have all been very helpful!

    Unfortunately, the price difference here to upgrade to 680m from 675 is $500 and not $300 [im not in the US :( ] and dell are currently offering free upgrade to the 675 (prob trying to get rid of them? hehe). Hence why ill prob stick to the 675. Do understand what u guys are warning me about, but I think the 675 will be enough for my requirements.

    Saying that I am tempted to go the 7970 but just want the option to try the 3d wow factor on my own laptop (even if I get sick of or dont end up using 3d that much). Wish I could upgrade all my parts to the best item but I have set myself a strict budget of $2500 and the 680 will take me way over the line

    Do you guys find much dust gets inside these beasts? Can you clean the dust out urself?
     
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    Hi All,
    i have been looking around and i think this is possible but wanted to check with anyone that might have tried it, i am looking to use a m17x r4 with 2 dell 3007wfp monitors with res of 2560 x 1600 can i connect one with dual link dvi from hdmi and one from display port and get the full res of both? it should be possible i just wanted to check if anyone has tried it.

    Regards Sam
     
  33. Kyrius

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    Now I need help! :p I am looking for the best SSD that suits well with an Alienware. I'm stuck with 4 choices, CRUCIAL, SANDISK, OCZ or SAMSUNG? If you have a suggestion please do tell me. ;) I am looking to get the 128GB one.
     
  34. LeoVainio

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    DUDE

    We are trying to prevent you from making a mistake. You will thank us later, I SWEAR!

    So the changes would already save you $300, reducing your hard drive a bit could probably save you $100 easily. (250GB + 1TB is way too much). And I just went on the Alienware website, and they have a coupon right now which will save you $100 dollars on any Alienware over 999$...

    So there we go, the $300 savings from before, reducing hard drive approximately $100, and a coupon for another $100.... ITS IN YOUR BUDGET!

    If NOT in your budget, $100 is SO worth the upgrade from the 675m to the 680m. You will have a better gaming experience, better 3D, and a much more future proof card.

    SAME PRICE --> MUCH BETTER PERFORMANCE

    Man trust the forums on this one, make it fit your budget with these tips im giving ya.
     
  35. Kyrius

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    Yo, Leo. Need help with my SSDs! I dont know which to pick! haha!
     
  36. LeoVainio

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    Hmm well I'm not really sure about that one, and I'm not sure which models you mean.

    For me, my choice has been between the Crucial M4 and the OCZ Vertex 4.

    The OCZ Vertex 4 is faster, but the 128GB one is a tiny bit slower than the 512GB version. However some forums have said the Crucial M4 is a little bit more reliable than the Vertex 4... but both work just fine.

    In my opinion, you are going to notice ZERO difference between the top 2 SSDs, so whatever fits your budget. Personally I think I'm going with the OCZ Vertex 4 because I can budget it. But the Crucial M4 is cheaper tho.

    Here are the specifications for the different Vertex 4 drives:
    OCZ Vertex 4 SATA III 2.5" SSD - OCZ

    Here are the specifications for the 128GB Crucial M4:
    CT128M4SSD2 - 128GB, 2.5-inch Solid State Drive , from Crucial.com

    I don't exactly know what the numbers mean but wow does look like the Vertex 4 is plenty faster. But with SSDs you won't notice any difference.

    Got any more specific questions I could try to research and answer? :)

    Somebody give me some rep dammit haha :rolleyes: :D
     
  37. Kyrius

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    Thanks Leo! I was really going for the OCZ Vertex 4. Now that you confirmed it. Im going for the 256Gb one. :) Hope this SSD will be a difference naker.
     
  38. LeoVainio

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    Fantastic!! I'm going with OCZ also, they are clearly the best choice.. and with the Vertex 4 + firmware updates there are no reliability issues, which I think there might have been for a couple people back in Vertex 3.

    Vertex 4 has over double:
    Sequential Writes
    4K Random read IOPS
    4K Random write IOPS

    As the Crucial M4, according to their specification... No doubt it's the fastest card on the market. Can't wait to boot up and run everything on it :D
     
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    Hello,

    So I am trying to figure out the best possible configurations with the lowest cost possible. I'm getting up to around $2500 USD which is a little bit too much for me.
    So far I have the 3720 QM, with a GTX 680. Should I upgrade to a Killer wireless card? Also I would like an SSD but considering that its $300 for a 256GB on the AW site, I might get a stock 500 GB HDD at 7200 RPM and install an SSD and re-install the OS on the SSD.

    Also should I make a purchase from the AW site or the HiDevolution site? If I purchase from the HiDevolution site, should I just get a 128 SSD and a 750 HDD running at 7200 RPM? It looks like the prices are more expensive at the HiDevolution site but it has more options. At AW I can get the -$100.

    I am so lost guys :confused:

    -Jon

    P.S I am very skeptic about the Radeon 7970 as opposed to the GTX 675. I don't know why. That's why I would rather get the GTX 680. I'm thinking I should just save up until I get ~$2500 and buy it rather than skimming on stuff.
    -6Gb ram, Window 7 Premiun, 1900x1080 WLED, DRD+-RW optical

    P.S.S On another note, is it wise to just get the 1yr plan now and extend it later considering that I am trying not to spend so much?
     
  40. OblastSRT4

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    Just keep in mind that the 675 is roughly half the power of the 7970m/680m since its a re-badged fermi card. Otherwise, great setup and have fun!
     
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    Snazzy3 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Question:

    Can anyone tell me the make and model of the 256GB SSD that comes in the m17x R4?
     
  42. LeoVainio

    LeoVainio Notebook Evangelist

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    Do you want the 120hz screen + 3D:
    If you answered yes, then you gotta budget the 680m.
    If you answered no, get the 7970m it's an excellent card.

    For a low budget Alienware, Hidevolution is not going to give you any advantages. So I would just get the coupon and whatever the Alienware site has to offer.

    You can get
    3820QM
    12GB 1600MHz RAM
    750GB Hybrid Hard Drive
    AMD 7970m
    Killer Wireless-N
    For the price of: $2519 (not including the $100 discount coupon)

    The lowest you can get the 680m + 3D without making your spec crap, is like 2600 (including coupon) on the Alienware site.
     
  43. themaster2012

    themaster2012 Newbie

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    Hi,

    I'm just waiting for my m17x to arrive, supposedly on the 24th.

    I went for :-

    3610qm
    8g ram
    680m
    3d vision 2
    killer wireless
    7200rpm 500gb H/D with 32 gb SSD

    I got a sweet deal on the price after all discounts and stuff applied for around £1500. I would have liked the 3720qm but couldn't quite shell out the extra cash.

    I've read a lot about the 3d vision 2 and from what i gather the 680m is really needed to get the most from it as the 675 is a bit weaker in comparison.

    I also have an optoma hd65 projector and will be looking into the chance of getting 3d vision 2 working on that without the use of the 3d-xl adapter it's supposed to need.

    Can't wait to get the system and try out the 3d on some games, I had a vfx1 headgear back in the day and Quake blew me away on it so hope the 3d vision 2 will be even better.

    I'll post a review when i have it all, although i'm guessing there's a lot of people currently awaiting their m17s with the 680m :) ?
     
  44. jonnytsunami

    jonnytsunami Notebook Enthusiast

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    I will not be picking the 3D bundle.

    I found a great site: Gaming Laptops - XOTIC PC - Gaming Notebooks - Custom Laptops - Custom Notebooks which has free shipping and no sales tax. What do you think about the 3610 QM processor? Would that be alright with the 7970m? I am leaning towards the SSD also instead of a 7200 RPM hard drive.

    Oh and btw, I listed you as my reference when I signed up on this forum. :)
     
  45. LeoVainio

    LeoVainio Notebook Evangelist

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    Wow I just come here every now and then to share my opinion and ask some questions myself. I feel great that you listed me as your reference :) thank you

    Well, I'm ordering from Hidevolution.com and when I checked the Xotic PC website I didn't really like it /: if it comes with the same components and good price I don't see why not to use it :)

    The 7970m is a great GPU, however I never like to pick the lowest option for a component.. so if it fits your budget I would suggest the 3720QM over the 3610QM but honestly, there is no noticeable difference and it shouldn't affect gaming at all.

    And about the SSD, if you can get a large enough one to fit your budget then that is an excellent choice. But if your choice is a 256GB SSD vs. a 7200rpm HDD with an mSATA cache, I would pick the second option. From my experience, I've had a damn 250GB 5400rpm hard drive on my Macbook for the past 4 years and it is not hard to fill it up (and I have like 3 games on this laptop) -.-

    Personally as you see in my description I'm getting a ton of SSD space... But you have to decide what's more important for you. Faster boot times, game level load times, and a bit snappier Windows 7 .... or 3 times as much space.

    I never turn off my computer, so boot times don't really matter for me. If loading a level for a game goes 10 seconds faster I don't believe it's such a huge difference. But opening all your applications/files/copying files faster would be a nice addition to general usage. So in conclusion, if I had to budget between a tiny SSD vs. a large Hybrid HDD, I would choose the large Hard Drive... But luckily I don't need to worry about that.

    Any more specific questions I could help with? :)
     
  46. themaster2012

    themaster2012 Newbie

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    Yep, what is your ETA on the delivery?

    Mine is the 24th, i'd love to know how the 3d screen really does stack up in terms of normal use as i had a mac book pro before and it was really good in that department. I could have got the new retina one instead of the m17 but needed a PC again and still have a trusty 24" iMac to play with too.
     
  47. jonnytsunami

    jonnytsunami Notebook Enthusiast

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    That was a great reply thank-you. It just seemed like you were helping a lot of people so I thought I might as well add you as a reference haha.

    I don't like to pick the lower options either actually, so I think I am going to wait until my Fin-Aid kicks in and get the GTX 680 for the hell of it with a 3720QM. I find it pretty hard for me to fill a 128 GB drive also, so just in case, ill probably go with a 256 GB SSD. I don't like leaving my laptop on as it gives me peace of mind. The quick boot times are so intriguing. If anything I can buy a second hard drive later and install it. What kind of SSD should I get? Im thinking about getting a the Crucial one but I am not sure.

    Also for the warranty, should I just get the 1 year and extend it later?


    Thank-you for all the help! BTW your build is crazy! Let me know how you like your build when it comes in!

    I am not sure if your processor will support your 1866 MHz Ram:
    Intel Processor Specifications

    If anything will will lower it to 1600
     
  48. LeoVainio

    LeoVainio Notebook Evangelist

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    Unfortunately due to payments I have to wait until the end of this month to order it :( I'll post here as soon as I know

    Awesome! Well you definitely won't regret upgrading the CPU later :p Upgrades are always a happy thing haha

    128GB is terribly terribly small. If you're buying a gaming laptop, and you'll put some movies and applications on it.. I think you might fill up 256GB sooner than you know it. But it should be FINE as you say and you'll have a super fast computer. Installing a second hard drive later, or getting an external hard drive is definitely a good choice. Stick with it.

    As for the SSD, I'm getting OCZ Vertex 4 because its the fastest. Honestly you will not notice a difference between the top 2 SSD's, but here's the specifications:
    OCZ Vertex 4: OCZ Vertex 4 SATA III 2.5" SSD - OCZ
    Crucial M4: CT256M4SSD2 - 256GB, 2.5-inch Solid State Drive , from Crucial.com
    IOPS means Input/Output Operations Per Second

    The OCZ Vertex 4 has double the IOPS for random reads and random writes, and double the Sequential Read speed.
    The Crucial M4 is cheaper, but I gotta say if you have the choice.. Go with the OCZ Vertex 4, it's the fastest on the market at the moment.

    As far as I know, I'm getting 1 year warranty. But I'm not the right person to talk to about that :p it's not whats most important for me

    Hope this helps :)

    Yep I know, I've done my research :D

    And as a result I'm most likely getting Corsair Vengeance 16GB 1600MHz. It is 2x8GB so uses 2DIMM slots instead of the 4x4GB HyperX, which uses 4 slots.
    And I've read that using less DIMM slots is more stable or something :p

    But if I find a way to overclock the HyperX to the 1866MHz they're meant to run at, I wouldn't need to increase voltage or any of that stuff... Not an expert on this tho. Most likely I will go with the Corsair Vengeance, they are cheaper too :)

    I appreciate trying to help me not make a bad selection :p
     
  49. Eldaren

    Eldaren Notebook Evangelist

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    If the RAM is PNP it will run at 1866mhz. Intel says the max is 1600mhz yet you can get 2133mhz to work.
     
  50. LeoVainio

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    There is next to no difference between 1600mhz and 1866mhz ram, let alone 2133mhz... probably even less with a CPU that isn't exactly natively compatible with it.

    In my knowledge, it's better to use 2DIMM slots instead of 4 slots... so I think I'm going with the 1600Mhz 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance sticks. Less for the CPU's memory controller to deal with, and as far as I've read it's more reliable and easier to overclock. Perhaps even better performance than 1866Mhz due to this, but that depends on the ram timings.

    Sounds like a solid spec :) Can't wait to see the review
    I have to wait 2 weeks until I can order mine unfortunately :( But I will definitely post some gameplay to YouTube as soon as I can :D
     
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