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    Any FFXIV players as disappointed as I am?

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Jekt, Sep 28, 2010.

  1. Grimfan

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    Oh today is release date? I thought yesterday... I got it since tuesday, standard edition with garland goggles 8D
     
  2. Lozz

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    Standard edition was the 30th, if you got it yesterday, it was probally a special thing for having it on preorder. I got mine shipped and received on the 22nd for only .99 cents for pre-ordering it.
     
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    Yeah i think my retailer just already had it on monday, so they sent it out right away, playing since tuesday. Did not that much yet, just leveling conj. to 10/10 so far. Wanna try some weavering today and level thau.
     
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    Hi Grim, I just ran some benchmarks to test the new driver.

    3DMark06 XFire Enabled 8.773 Driver VBIOS[ A01] BIOS[ A09]:
    13451
    3DMark06 XFire Disabled 8.773 Driver VBIOS[ A01] BIOS[ A09]:
    12302


    3DMark06 XFire Enabled 8.763 Driver VBIOS[ A01] BIOS[ A09]:
    13108
    3DMark06 XFire Disabled 8.763 Driver VBIOS[ A01] BIOS[ A09]:
    12248
     
  5. Gennosuke

    Gennosuke Notebook Guru

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    Why the low performance on the XFire, is that all it has to offer?
    Can an expert shed some light on this?

    sounds pretty pitiful considering it cost around an extra $300 (AUD/NZD)
     
  6. Grimfan

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    Well i don't get much higher results on 3DMark06 in CrossFire, never tried disabled tho, also if you wanna see where you stand with your GPU's alone, Vantage is more accurate imo and CPU has little influence there.
     
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    AAAARRGGGHH!!!

    Stuck again. After a brief stint of being able to play, I can no longer proceed past the square-enix logo pops up. I just get a black screen in the window.

    I am assuming that this is a directx issue but I am pretty confident I have the latest update. When I run Civ 5, I get the option of running on directx 9, 10 or 11 which (I think) validates my assumption.

    This seems absolutely crazy to me that my brothers 4 year old laptop with i3 processor and Mobility HD4650 can run the game with no problems. But my laptop doesn't work.

    I'm seriously looking for any help what-so-ever. I am just really frustrated at this point. Thanks.
     
  8. Sefirothe

    Sefirothe Notebook Consultant

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    Pewp. I still havent even RECEIVED my copy yet to try it on my beast. Pre ordered it thru Amazon so I would have expected prompt shipping. Maybe the nasty rainfall we've had on the east coast over the last day or so delayed it. Still bummed tho.
     
  9. Jekt

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    If anyone is playing on Rabanastre, holla!!!

    Jekt Jenkins is my character name
     
  10. Sefirothe

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    I had this problem also. It actually seems to be res setting related. If I ran at anything less than 1900x1200 (my native res) I'd get the black screen after the logo too. Windowed or non windowed didnt seem to make a difference.



    @GrimFan: Any reason why RadeonPro's settings area on the right hand side of the window would be flickering for me? I'm running the latest vbios and drivers from Dell.
     
  11. Gennosuke

    Gennosuke Notebook Guru

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    did any of you guys manage to get crossfire running on FFXIV?
    If so, can you explain how you managed?

    As far as i can see, it doesn't seem to be running and the performance is still pretty low 10-15 fps in city. I'm hoping crossFire can work a bit of magic here ..
     
  12. Grimfan

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    I get about 20 fps in city with crossfire on, outside i get 45-60 fps. I think it's very depending on how crowded an area is. Give the servers some time to rest and stabilize.

    Which setting? Just turn on V.Sync with radeonpro, that should do it.
     
  13. Sefirothe

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    Mmm...I'll see if I can get a short video of it with my iPhone when I get home from work. It's weird. Any area with text in the RadeonPro window just flickers spastically.
     
  14. Gennosuke

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    Grim, how do you enable crossFire with FFXIV specifically?
    I know mine is turned on in CCC, but i believe it's not taking effect with FFXIV.

    Looking at GPU-z, i see the load is 0% on 2nd gpu and the first only running on 60%.

    Can you please advise?

    Thanks.
     
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    yes dude I know exactly what you mean with the radionpro flickering on the right side mine dose it aswell....very annoying
     
  16. Sefirothe

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    Oh good. I'm not the only one. Seriously. I don't have epilepsy but I feel as if I stared at that window long enough I just might have a fit.

    And does anyone else's FPS function with RadeonPro work? I know there's no way I'm getting 480 frames per second in ffxiv.
     
  17. Hijakd

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    man do you mean the yellow numbers up on the top, left hand side, seems to go from 0 up to 999??? what is that? how do I turn it off
     
  18. Sefirothe

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    Yea that's it. Just hit F12 in game until they turn off I think.
     
  19. mtness

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    umm what settings are you using?, there is no way i can get 40-60 fps out doors and i think i have a slightly stronger cpu than you and the same gpu set-up
     
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    Meh, cant get a good video of it with the crappy iPhone 3GS camera. Guess I'm just gonna ignore it for now.
     
  21. Cloud999

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    Hello everybody!
    I bought Final Fantasy 14 today and, as I expected from my retarded luck, there's a problem.
    I can't run the game.
    I have windows 7, procvessor intel core i3, ati radeon HD 5570, RAM 6GB.
    The game is full installed, I hit the desktop shortcut... final fantasy 14 stopped working, close program.
    Please somebody help me, cause I can't believe I am having problems without even playing it!
    Final Fantasy 11 worked so fine, and this has problems without even starting!
     
  22. Lozz

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    you know.. now that I've acutally played most of the aspects of this game I've decided to come back to this thread.

    First off, I'm a huge FF fan, and XI was fairly enjoyable for me.

    However.. there are some serious problems that are simply un-acceptable

    1) the interface.
    Wow, where to being, well first we'll start by saying that yes they fixed the hardware mouse issue, but the whole system seems to suffer from some kind of lag I've never experienced before. Every action or enter stroke takes 2-3 seconds to register with the game before the corresponding action or window presents itself, hugely annoying and unacceptable. I've never experienced this with any MMO I've ever played, ever, and when you need to do something quickly you're just brought down by the interface which makes it incrediably fustrating, worse, half of the interface isn't even covered in the manual, and the NPC toutorials are just as un-informative as well. It looks like they tried to teach people in-game, but they just don't cover as much as they should (like macros)
    The interface a) We'll continue with the repetitve-ness of the general window system, crafting for example, first you get to sort through your iventory that you can't orginize for whatever reason, click the materials (and then that takes 3-4seconds to pop up on the list) and add them to the recipe-less crafting system. Which then is overly-complicated. First you need to select whether you want to use your main or secondary tool, then you need to select the recipe from the avaliable list of recipes for the items in the slots, then you need to confirm that recipe, and then you need to get past a page that summarizes your entire synth. I've never seen anything remotely unorginized or clunky in any game ever, and I find myself mashing the enter key more often than I'd like when I want to mass produce some yarn or w/e. Don't even get me started on the ridiclious nature of crafting in general. I find myself wasting crystals and materials on level 1 items as a level10 weaver, and for absolutely no reason. When you botch 3 sets of level 1 yarn using the correct tool and using the correct procedure for avoiding certian colors (red for example) but still manage to fail a standard synth on a white orb, the upgraded needle and master (1,000gil) synth support, it's pretty fustrating. It would be one thing if there were some sort of consistiancy for how much quality you need at what percentage, but there's no. I find myself finishing synth's @ sub 20 quality just as often than I do @ 100 (which is the standard 'finished')
    The interface b) The interface for combat..the action/passive modes make no sense whatsoever imo, you can enter or exit at any time, regardless whether you're in combat and it only serves to add an additional .5 seconds before you cast if you're not already in it before you click on something to cast. Serisouly, is there a purpose to this? In XI at least you entered a combat state and couldn't perform certian actions or use certian escape items/ rest to regain mp/hp while in this state. in XIV you can cure and regain MP through casts so there's no resting anyway. Useless except that you can run faster in passive mode. Another mouse click that takes 2-3seconds because SE wasen't nice enough to include a hotkey for it. They tried to merge XIII and XI's system, but in both those cases you could learn the system and it would respond fast enough that it made it worth-while. This doesn't happen here, there are simply too many redundancies and it just takes too long for it to spit reponses back at you to be effective for anyone that doesn'thave 10hours a day to play.

    The servers.
    SE recently added an additional server over the weeked however, I already find myself waiting in line typically for 5-10minuites to play, to which I'm then greeted by R600-1000ms response times. It would be fine if this effected global lag, however, The clunky interface is then further hampered by the lag, which makes your 2second cast spells take 10 acutal seconds to hit the target, to which the mob can attack you lag-free. I find myself cancling my own spells often simply because it takes so long for them to register that I'm unsure if I hit the key hard enough.

    I'm on a 3.3mb/786K connection, which isn't that fast, but I would say it's acceptable. Apparently, the Server I'm on has a cap of 3.3K people, which no matter how you play it, is just a very low population. XI servers during their major prime times typically hit 4-5K, and the wow servers I were on managed the same just fine as well, they even manage to link thousands of players lag-free through their dungeon system from all different servers within the same cluster. It amazes me how long this game has been in beta that the brand new hardware servers are just still so slow. They managed to sell a quarter million copies within the first week for N/A alone and they only add 1 server? Lol SE..


    The fact is, I love the general game, but everything around it just sucks, hard, and considering SE's responses in XI and the typical FF forum reaction of ''Can't use macros? Can't bother to learn very complicated crafting systems? Can't use third-party websites all the time? Then just don't play" It would be funny if it were a joke, but it's not, I have the CF-29 right next to me *just* to look stuff up when I don't know what to do, and since the crafting system is recipeless, it's an absolute necessity, it's just impossible to not either run in window'd mode and alt-tab every 10minuites, or to not play the game on 2 different computers. Then, as I said before, even when you do everything right, you botch your synthisis or run out of crystals before you run out of materials. Just because..
    I'm afraid that nothing will get better or change.
     
  23. mtness

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    the only two problems i have with the game are the selling/buying of items which is tedious at best, and having to upload data when you get updates, just like a torrent...i think that's wrong, but other than that im ok with the slowish interface, and active and inactive modes seem to be there to allow you to generate health, if you are in inactive mode you HP increases, but doesn't if you are in active mode....that's the only reason i can come up with for the two modes.
     
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    I think you can run faster when in inactive mode also :)
     
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    Yes, active mode for fighting/casting and inactive to do everything else. Pretty simple. They encourage to follow some guidelines, even if the game doesn't give a single hint about anything lol You have to experience and explore everything very much on your own.

    Also i hope SE is seriously considering an Auction House, i can't trouble myself each day just for simple shopping which could be done in a few seconds...

    Oh well atleast i didn't pay premium final beta collectors test edition :p

    hehe and agree with Lozz, the game is great, but it's a hard bone to chew, you have to be very very smart to understand all the things going on and how they are releated, hard to follow in a mmo. I thought they wanted it to make it more appealin and user-friendly, but it's not close to FFXi even... Give it some time i would say, grind along, ahoi! :D
     
  26. Gennosuke

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    I'll have to agree with Lozz.
    I had very high expectations for this game, i'm sure it's been in production for a very long time now, i can't understand for the life of me how they can get very basic things wrong.

    Well i suppose this is the place for me to vent off my frustration with the game so far..
    If i am note the things i am dissappointed with:

    The Leves - This whole leve system, i just don't know if i like it, like the whole game is based on leves. If you're not leve'ing, your crafting. What if you don't want to craft? I just thought there would be a world of adventure waiting out there, but it seems like it's all back to the leves no matter what stage you're at. It's just fancy way of disguising the exp grinding party system of XI. I think there should be more to an MMO than just exp'ing. In XIV, i can't see so far what you can do if you're not leve questing/grinding or crafting.

    The camps - I really think they could have atleast designed these better. The crystal thing doesn't look as flash as i would have expect it to, back in XI the crystals were HUGE which gave a feeling of awe. This is like a cheap as mini crystal compared, where's the rest of it !? The Design of the camp itself, i can't help but notice every single camp looks like the other, nothing to make you connect with each area in a unique way. The camp itself is a bit lame, there's nothing fun to see there and it's just a whole bunch of people overcrowded in one small area making it even further annoying. They could have given much more life to these camps. as an example, a camp in a jungle, another in a cave, another by the sea.. something like that, use your imagination SE.. make it more inspiring. Our hardware is taxed so badly we can't get decent frame rates yet the visuals aren't that great at all, that is disappointing.

    The UI - Where do i start? The gear UI is just crap, it's small, it's hard on the eye. takes ages to just change a little piece of gear when it should be a very easy quick thing to do. Then you have the bad design of having to actually go through multiple steps before you can see full detail of an item when you should really get a basic preview of the stats from the very top level. Also, when you want to check a new piece of gear.. how the heck did they miss putting in a basic comparison of the old gear to the new, it just shows you either green or red stats to indicate its higher or lower. Well, how by how much higher or lower? go back out of the menu, look at the old item, note down the numbers on a piece of paper or remember hard, then go back and check the new item. very convenient..

    The Lag - Horrible, get the frequent R600-1000ms response times as stated by Lozz. The lag in executing an action, lag in selling items.. item by item..can almost watch the grass grow. The lag in opening bazaars and buying/selling/trading. The lag in battle, mobs die at times before you get chance to engage.

    The Map - The small map is crap - from the dots to the slow-to-turn moving arrow. The bigger map is just as bad, can't even flippin see your party members on it yet or make any marking as far as i've seen. Something as basic as tracking your party members on the big map. How could such a thing not exist? oh .. <pos> anyone? A huge map and no command to mention your current location ? how lame is that. I'm sure that would have taken an easy 1 or 2 lines of code to implement. I'm a software developer myself, i can easily see several things which could have been easily implemented to give gamers a better experience without much hassle but have not been.

    The Tab - Still finding myself having to tab my way through to get a mob, this is really both frustrating and inconvenient, F11 button is supposed to target npc's as far i know, and that fails badly too, it easily targets anyone. I suspect /targetnpc is command line of that.

    The Bugs - Well.. I'm a bit surprised this far into the game, past the alpha and closed and open beta testing and SE are in the game now, yet i still see silly messages along the lines of 'you have been killed by you' and mobs still missing the difficulty color dots by their names. The crashes in the game, i have crashed couple of times already and at times end up in a far away place coz the game failed to save my state. good luck without an airship or chocobo.
     
  27. Killiandros

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    Yeah, I have to agree I'm somewhat disappointed. Almost everything takes just a bit too long to do and while the game has a solid foundation, I think it needed just a bit more work prior to mainstream release.


    What to do? Where's the story?
    The whole game is one massive grind. Don't get me wrong - it's the nature of a MMO to grind for progression - but in FFXIV, it's not even disguised very well. You can't even really grind the levequests over and over because of the 48 hour timer on them. Crafting is an (almost) enforced alternative which isn't so bad because it breaks up the monotony of purely combat focused gameplay but the biggest killer here is that I expect some sort of main storyline to hold my attention. I don't mean what passes for story in FFXIV - one central story that I can only progress every 10 skill levels doesn't qualify in my opinion. I feel no connection to the world at all here. The game feels totally barebones - if it had a strong single continuous quest line with leves to complement then that'd be fine.​


    Graphical Performance
    Performance isn't optimised. I assume this is a combination between the drivers and the client itself but it should be much better for a live client - especially on our laptops given the specs. I have hopes that with subsequent patches and driver releases we should see a big improvement here.​


    LAG LAG LAG LAG
    The absolute worst part for me so far. Nested menus take far too long to appear and occasionally I'm so frustrated with trying to sell at a vendor that I give up in disgust and try again later.

    Walking into even sparsely populated areas it frequently takes anywhere between 10 seconds up to a minute for the area to populate on-screen. I know the game has just launched, but load testing etc. during beta should have ironed this out.

    Sometimes changing gear will make my character disappear for a good 30 seconds and I can't move or pan the camera etc. They added another server to cope with the load but they really need to focus on addressing the current lag - it's awful.​


    Interface
    I'll also echo the sentiments on the interface. There are nested menus that don't seem to add any particular value - eg. the multiple confirmation screens on crafting. I tried connecting my PS3 controller (search for MotionInJoy) in Open Beta and found the entire gaming experience more enjoyable with that than with a keyboard/mouse - I'd recommend giving it a try.​
     
  28. Killiandros

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    If you haven't already, you will need to update your graphics drivers. Once you update to the most recent version you should be able to launch fine. Is 5570 a typo? Do you mean 5870?

    If so, check out this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...5870-gpus-5870-vbios-discussion-non-beta.html
     
  29. Lozz

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    it's a p2p system like a torrent, that's why you're seeding (ie uploading) Once I port fordarded the ports necessary the big patch didn't take me longer than an hour maybe.


    there is a mainstory, although I will admit I didn't know the main story was acutally the main story until someone told me it was lol. For help, you need to do what the starting NPC @ the tavern tells you to do, that's the 'main' story.

    what would everything else be though? using emotes? It just seems un-necessary considering there are no penalties during combat for being in passive mode, and you can enter or exit at any time, unlike in XI where you had to be incrediably far away from the mob or zone out of the area in order to exit combat to regain MP and HP. passive and active modes in XI were not selectable and it made trying to leave it was a chore and an incentive to kill the mob, in XIV it just doesn't do anything except, make you run faster lol.

    that reminds me.. I'm SUPER glad they're using gear durability penalities instead of exp penalities for getting ko'd, but wow, it's totally annoying when you get the damage cut penality for broken gear but it's nice enough to not give you any clue as to which piece of gear is creating the penalty! What am I supposed to do? repair stuff in a random order until it goes away? Even figuring out how damaged your gear is involves 2-3 enter strokes too many. Have to enter the gear menu, select the item you wish to view, then select it again in the submenu because the item attributes for wear isn't given in the first selection's description ?! Why do I need to get up to the point to unequip something just to figure out it's wear level? it would be fine if it were nice and quick, but everything just takes forever.
     
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    Granted mate - and I've been progressing it as soon as I can, but it's not a continuous main story - and I had to go and research on how to get the next portion of it on FFXIV fansites. I don't mind figuring some things out, but what I'd consider to be simple gameplay/mechanics could only be described as being made deliberately obscure so you spend more time running around trying to determine what to do next. Even if the main quest giver said 'come back when your main class hits 10 when you're ready for more adventure etc.' would be helpful.

    From what I can tell, you can only progress the main story every ~5 class levels (eg. Marauder 8, 15, 20 etc). The 'story' consists of extremely short sequences which grant little/no XP. It's also not intuitive that you need to return (and you can't use the NPC Linkpearl to kick it off). There are apparently also specific guild leves at class level 20 (eg. Marauder specific via the Marauder Guild in Limsa Lominsa - pirate ship) The repeatable leves don't do anything to flesh out the lore of the world you're in either. Also take into consideration that the class XP will continue to curve upwards (more and more xp between levels) - which means that you'll be forced to wait longer and longer between progression of the main storyline.

    So in summary, sure, there's a main storyline that you can only progress every ~5class levels (let me know if there's something I'm missing) and repeatable leves that are on a 24/48 hour timer.
     
  31. karuru11

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    actually storylines are city based and it starts at lvl 8(at least in gridania and ul'dah), then 15, 20, and from what I understand and hoping level 25, at least thats the order i got my storyline at(lvl 21 pugi). Then the higher level you get the storyline starts conversing with the other cities..

    Marauders or class given quests i got my first at level 20 and I'm not sure what the level gaps are from there. After completing this though, you might be able to purchase a new power through them using Guildpoints

    leves are setup to renew at a day and a half. but considering taking 3-4levequests at one city then antoher at another city and sharing it with a bunch of party members, after that i'm pretty much done for the day unless i really want to grind it out. These leve quests I prefer much more than finding a contact for example in WOW, then finding out that i have to kill like 3 mobs that is pretty far away, then run back to him.

    After those you have faction leves that from what i hear is pretty fun too. Its pretty much a basic levequest but different mobs etc..

    Then you got the behest quests where NPCs show up randomly at the crystal for extra missions(you and a team have to defeat like 10 mobs then a boss or 2 shows up). Then you got crafting leves you can do 8 every 36 hours too..

    I'm half and half of this. I'm not too upset at the instability right now just because every MMO has its issues at launch week. But They are just missing some MMO essentials.

    Auction house for one, my goodness browsing through everyones bazaar is a pain. They are making some movements with the bazaar changes and filtering through categories..it'll be different, for the person who never played an mmo won't know the different vs the typical wow player.

    crafting probably won't as mandatory as it is right now at i want to say in 2-3 months when the economy stabalizes. FFXiV is still a baby so it'll be a while until nice prices and availability of products will come out with the hardcore crafters.

    I'm keeping an open mind though. FFXI was a rough starter and full of disappointments, but with time they had some really good content. And i freakin want to jump lol. To walk around a small cliff that could be stepped down to stinks! (use to it but still!) All in all i'm really enjoying this game though.
     
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    It pains me to say it but I agree with everything said here, I cannot believe they expect us to put up with the lag between pressing the attack command.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................and it actually happening!!!!!!!


    RUBBISH!!! they better fix this game or my faith in the final fantasy series is out the window along with this worthless collectors edition, my mate uninstalled this game after playing for 2 days,
    hahaha he accuses me of forcing myself to like this game..........maybe hes right :)

    (Im fully aware this game is in the early stages, however Im not paying for them to screw around and learn, that ship should have sailed with ff11 and the beta)
     
  33. mtness

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    maybe if you google some of the first months of every major MMo released over the last few years you will see complaints like this everywhere, its going to have bugs, im not prepared to write a game of after a week and a half of game time, in fact im happy with it generally, and apart from a couple of gripes have felt satisfied enough to up my subscription to six months.....that for me gives the game and S-E enough time to address the issues and if they make a valid attempt ill stick on-board.
     
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    Anyone having lock-up issues? I have gotten to the point where I can run the game for a day or two tops and then my entire laptop just locks up. I have to boot up in safe bode and restore to factory settings. I was getting tired of doing this so I decided to leave final fantasy off the laptop and haven't had any freezing issues/blue screens since.

    I may just send this laptop back. I was really hoping for a lot out of this laptop and I am not having a lot of luck. Really is quite frustrating.

    I'm very jealous of everyone running the game with no issues. You guys are lucky.
     
  35. Killiandros

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    True enough - but 'every other MMO has launch issues' is no excuse. There are also several out there that have had rather smooth launches by comparison. FFXIV has done reasonably well but the LAG is unacceptable several weeks in. I have not experienced lag like this at launches for other MMO's.

    MMO's these days are rushed through production missing key features or lacking polish yet we still happily accept release of an incomplete product and shell out cash.
    Recently DC Universe Online was pushed back to next year and games like Tera and Star Wars: The Old Republic are adopting a 'it'll release when it's ready' approach. (Finally). More should adopt this attitude.

    Does FFXIV have a solid foundation? Yes.
    Did it need more real content and tweaking/bug fixing prior to release though? In my opinion, absolutely.


    Performance Boost ?
    Incidentally, I was fiddling around with settings and have managed to shoot up to 60FPS outside Limsa Lominsa and 20-30 inside. It does involve dropping the quality a bit, however this will do for me until a hopefully much improved driver release from ATI. (Using Crossfire, Beta VBIOS and Official ATI 10.8 drivers).

    ATI Catalyst Settings:
    AA 4X, Box
    Multisample AA (Adaptive Multisample AA drops my FPS by 10 or so and introduces stuttering)
    AF 8X
    AI Advanced
    MipMap High Performance
    Triple Buffering on

    FFXIV Video Settings Tab:
    Fullscreen
    1920x1200
    No AA
    Resolution
    Lowest

    FFXIV Graphics Settings Tab:
    Enable Hardware Mouse
    Texture Quality = High
    Texture Filtering = High
    (No other settings checked)

    The graphics settings are just trial and error based on my experience - if anyone has recommendations based on their experience please share them.
     
  36. Grimfan

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    Yep, running more or less the same AAx4 and AFx16, thanks for listing it in detail Killi +rep ;)

    Will forward anyone asking for settings to this :D
     
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    I am going to try these settings along with Forced Vsync and Force High Priority thru Radeon Pro. Any good recommendations for a low impact FPS display? The one included with Radeon Pro doesnt seem to work.

    Thanks!
     
  38. mtness

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    i tryed those settings above and although i did get an improved fps rate it was at the cost of stuttering i.e. when i was running it would be normal then slow down then go normal etc etc, and i also experienced more heat, its as though the machine didn't like to be forced to do things this way and had to work harder for the slight increase...i changed everything back in the AMD control panel, and the stuttering ceased immediately.....guess im just going to have to wait for the AMD driver release...

    @ Sefirothe i guess you could try FRAPS, if its only fps you are after it seems solid enough.
     
  39. Sefirothe

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    Downloaded FRAPS, and am getting 20 fps in city and 50 fps outside with the above settings.

    I'm happy, as its playable and seems decent numbers for a single GPU!
     
  40. Gennosuke

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    I have tried those settings and it got pretty bad for me with some stuttering. Down to like 5 FPS outside!
    Wouldn't want to imagine the city.

    Though I don't think it's entirely related the settings, this is the same issue i have experienced before where a shut down of the laptop brings the performance back to normal 15-25 FPS outside, this is mostly the normal range for me. I hear some of you guys getting 40-60 which sounds nuts to me as i don't recall ever coming across these numbers.

    Could it be that the server i'm on (Gyshal) is too laggy? One thing i noticed is that whether i bump settings up or down, it has little to no effect on my FPS. Does this mean it's completely server related?

    I'd really like to know if anyone came across this 'shut down to restore performance' issue? Is this a common issue for all? The lag becomes so ridiculously slow it's unbearable, as i said about 5 fps. It's like the gpu decides to slack off completely.

    Any help appreciated as this is really becoming quite frustrating and beating the purpose of the laptop for me ..becoming a bit of heavy paper weight.
     
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    Make sure you have default buffer size to resolution and not doubled. Also areal congestion does hurt fps alot at the moment as it's an online game.

    Also if you are unsure about CCC, go to options and reset to factory default settings. Did you ever try to play the game just with default settings, just enable fullscreen?
     
  42. Gennosuke

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    Yep Grim, all are set to default, and i have set it to default factory settings multiple times.
    Tried full screen and windowed. Can't see a difference.
     
  43. Killiandros

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    I'm surprised you guys are having problems with those settings. Are you sure that you have applied them exactly as they are listed?

    I have now also turned off character shadows in-game as well as disabling Triple Buffering. I'm not sure if that has done the trick but my fans haven't kicked on as hard in Limsa Lominsa since.


    I am on Gysahl as well, and as stated, experiencing 20-30FPS inside Limsa Lominsa and almost a constant 60FPS outside. I have noticed a slight drop in quality with those settings though - as expected. Look me up in-game @ Killi Andoros if you like.

    Lag on Gysahl (or any other server at the moment) is ludicrous. Walking into an area and having to wait 30 seconds or so for the NPC's to appear is disgusting. Also, take note of your FPS to rule out confusing FPS stuttering with rubberbanding - which I have experienced.

    (Just in case anyone doesn't know the difference, rubberbanding is the result of lag where eg.You move forwards but the game server hasn't registered that movement and 'rubberbands' you back to the spot it thinks you're at. Stuttering on the other hand, could be the result of your video card just not being able to keep up and dropping FPS - eg. setting everything to high in eg. Crysis and still expecting smooth FPS).


    I haven't come across the 'shutdown to restore performance' issue, however I have started the game once or twice from a powered off state and had horrid FPS. I believe the poor performance is the combination of a poorly optimised client and ATI drivers. I'll take some screenshots of my settings screens for you guys to compare later if that helps.
     
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    What is this issue and when did you had that horrid FPS and what are you doing to solve it when you have bad performance? And what are you referring to with "powered off state" exactly, fresh boot or from a sleep?
     
  45. Killiandros

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    Powered off state: i.e. laptop off (not sleeping), pressed power button to turn on, logged in, loaded FFXIV.

    Has only happened a couple of times. I just shut down and booted again. (Always using AC power, not battery.) I have no idea what triggered it - seems to have been a random occurrence which again leads me to believe it's a client/driver issue. I'd assumed it was something like Stealth Mode had somehow kicked on - no data to support.
     
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    Yeah i totally gave up on reproducing all the issues sometimes, everything that happens is mostly random. Sometimes it kicks me like 3 times in 10 minutes, various crashes, clean CTD, FFXIV stopped working crash and solid lock up freeze, had everything already lol Then with doing nothing but just restart the game again it works for the rest of the time playing...

    I just want a FFXIV Update for more comfort and a new ATI driver, but as it is running, it should only get better.

    Atleast other games work great :D
     
  47. mtness

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    on a side note gamespot review here i think he missed everything i like about the game and only focused on the negative but any way...enjoy the read
     
  48. Gennosuke

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    Thanks a bunch Killiandros,

    I think you being in the same server as me with the same machine, theoretically we should be getting exact same performance more or less. but there is a huge difference despite me having the right settings as far as i understand.
    I would really appreciate finding out exactly any more info that i may be missing, the settings you provided earlier have not given me your FPS, but there may be something else. maybe drivers or Perhaps you are running the game on crossFire? I heard some people got it going.

    Maybe i can get some more gpu load info off you, through GPU-Z or something and i can compare to see where we are going off.
    I am fairly new to pc gaming (been always on console), so i'm trying to learn my way through. Any assistance is highly appreciated.

    Anyway if you can provide screenshot of all those settings you mentioned earlier, it would be great for me and everyone else here.

    I really want to get to the bottom of this, getting 10-20 FPS outside and 5-10 inside just doesn't make sense and is a killer.

    Great to hear your on the same server, i'll add you on there - (my char name is Gennosuke Kouga)

    btw.. if you guys with experience here can guide me into testing out some other benchmarks or whatever tools to see if my gpu's are functioning as they should be and what i should be expecting, that may help shed some light.

    on a final note, what sort of benchmark you getting on FFXIV benchmark app?
     
  49. mtness

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    have a look at 3dmark vantage its a solid and reasonably standard means to see how your machine is performing.
     
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    Is there any benefit to running windowed over non windowed? Or visa versa?
     
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