Get your Catalyst 10.7 (non-WHQL) here

posted reply too....

 

So installing these drivers ( any drivers for that matter) on my M17x-R2, I uninstall everything reboot safemode and run Ccleaner to fix old registry. and then i get this when intsalling.



And then i have no CCC on my computer, Like when i right click on the desktop.

 

this
Common issues & resolution - Alienware M17x Wiki

 

You have to use the 'workaround' to get the driver to install correctly. Common issues & resolution - Alienware M17x Wiki

 

I do apologize. But i did the workaround and it still did the same thing, I probably should have mentioned that in the beginning.

 

You change the 'WorkaroundInstall=' command to 'true', and then run the setup from C:\ATI\Support\10-7_mobility_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc?

 

Let me give it another try.

 

Correct, this worked for me. So if everything is hosed and doesn't work, download/install the dell original drivers.

This way you get Catalyst back. Once you have catalyst back, then edit the install.cfg file (from c:\ati or c:\amd folder) to "true" and save the changes. Then run the setup from either c:\ati or c:\amd (which was the case for me). After the setup finishes, go into your CCC and check "information". There you will see that your driver updated successfully.

 

got it to work finalllyyyy

 

Good to hear man. Just remember to not let your computer go to sleep, and don't drop down to battery power.

 

Guys, sorry to litter this thread with my problem, but I am getting a repeating issue where my machine goes "lame" and can do no more than 27 FPS in furmark. I can't find what is causing it, I thought it was sleep mode, but today I went to play SC2 again and found that hours before I had 60fps, now have under 20. I checked everything, GPU-Z says CF is enabled. It is showing one card taking all the heat though, so the second is not doing it's job. I disabled/reenabled CFX which usually does the trick, but I think I have to boot to restore it, which is around 80fps in furmark.

So, two questions:

1) Did anyone else here experience this?
2) Did 10.7 beta fix it? Thanks!

 

Furmark will beat the absolute crap out of your GPUs. Worse than any game will. What are your temps hitting when it goes 'lame'? You'll get to 100°C with a quickness, so keep an eye on it. If only one card is heating up, you're not running the multi-GPU version of Furmark. Also, one card will always be a bit hotter than the other, so pay no mind to that. Don't change to 10.7 unless you never put your computer to sleep and don't run on battery.

 

uumm why shouldn't I let it sleep lol. ???

 

coz it will not wake up. you'll have to cold reboot it.

 

Oh mine been doing that since I got it anyways sooooo. Lol

 

Thanks, when in lame mode, about 60 cels. tops. The other card sits there dumbly at 42 degrees without a concern in the world.

When it's working well, I get 80gps and two hot cards (90+).

 

Fellows,
I have been using the 10.7 drivers since the day they were released and I never had any problem with sleep or battery ever. I tried it several times and never had that sleep and battery problems.

 

I have not had any issues either and have removed the ac adapter while the pc was on to move the computer to my tv and still had no issues.

 

@tiptip
how did you install the 10.7?

 

Lol, love the sig, Joker. Assuming you've decided to keep your R2? Anyways, to the quick question I have: do the 4870s have the same issues as the 5870s in Starcraft 2 and with the 10.7 drivers? I'm getting a replacement for my R1 that had 260m's in SLI, and they're not upgrading me to 5870s; I'd just like to know how much I'd have to worry about this issue and if I should pursue it with Dell.

 

I am not going to lock this thread as some may still want to "Mad Scientist" this driver in some form or another...

One thing to consider if you are planning to install this using the modded route, before doing so - be sure to check this thread:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...r2-aw-amd-8-761-beta-driver-discuss-here.html

It is locked for now. Once the drivers are posted to the Dell support site I will open up the thread. Enjoy the new drivers - hopefully we shall see some positive reviews!

If you still want to discuss 10.7 feel free...

 

For anyone who has been seeing hang during S3/S5 resume with dual 4870 configurations, can you please try disabling the memory over voltage and let me know if this resolves the problem? (Advanced, Performance Options, DDR3 Voltage).

Also, for those of you having this problem, can you please send me the PPID and manufacturer information (name, part number, specifics) of the DIMMs you are using?

Thanks.

 

Does this apply to 5870 crossfire users as well or specifically 4870 owners? I haven't seen many 4870 owners complain but the S3/S5 is a big problem for us 5870 guys.

Edit: I don't think you can disable the memory overvoltage, it's set at 1.5v by default and you can raise it. I always run mine at default.

 

I've downloaded 10.7 off of AMD's site. Does it include the 10.7 a patch or do I need to download that in addition to it? Where do I find the patch?

 

10.7a is not a patch but a whole new set of drivers...

GPU-75: ATI Catalyst? 10.7a Beta Driver

 

Ack, since this pc was being held captive by installs, I was looking at the forums on my iphone 4 and didn't check this page. Sorry Quad for asking questions on my other thread.

I've been able to install 10.7 just fine, though I get maybe 250 points less on 3dmark 06 than I did with stock drivers, and in TF2 I still get wavey lines unless I turn on V sync. I didn't even try V sync on stock.

10.7a on the other hand won't let me install it. I tried several times from a clean driver using safe mode and driver sweeper, but I kept getting blue screens when trying to install 10.7a.

 

There are some serious issues running anything but the stock drivers right now when using Crossfire on the M17x... I believe Falcon was trying to explain this to you but in all your excitement of getting the machine you may have overlooked what he was trying to tell you ....

Many if not all owners of the machine and Crossfire 5870s are waiting for Dell to hand out some new proper working drivers but until then if you want an issue free experience your best bet is to stick with the stock drivers only....

Im sure thats not what you wanted to hear since you just got the machine but right now the Ball is in Dells court and its up to them to get it sorted...

 

Honestly, with 10.7 I've had no issue with Xfire in any of the stuff I've tried so far.

 

Its mainly things like having to lock in Vsync to not have the wavy lines and things of that nature...

I guess as long as you dont mind that you should be ok but many dont like having to play with Vsync on..

 

What's wrong with Vsync? With the stock drivers I imagine Vsync is necessary as well.

Edit: Isn't there some sort of fix I need to do in a starcraft config file so the game doesn't eat my machine?

 

Alot of people want to run more then 60fps when gaming is one of the reasons for people not liking Vsync and also Vsync in games can make the mouse feel sluggish and have other side effects for the hardcore gamers ...

Starcraft 2 fix ...

StarCraft II overheating fix : PC Gamer

 

Ah, I didn't know. I'm sure Dell and AMD will come up with something soon.

Question: If I force AA 8x in the 3d settings of the 10.7 CCC, will that not put AA in SC? I just assumed that 10.7 allowed specific application control, but if I just force it and uncheck app control, will it not integrate the 8x aa into the game?

 

Sometimes forcing AA into a game that does not have the option can have undesired side effects so its best just to leave the application controlled setting on the ATI control panel and do everything in game...

10.7a specifically addressed AA in SC2 which im sure you read so im not sure how if it at all it worked prior to those drivers..... Not an SC2 player so i cant be much help...

Ashtefere seems to play SC2 so im sure he can answer all those questions....

 

Thanks for all your insight, I really appreciate it.

I think I'm going to just stick with 10.7 until the new dell driver comes out. Is there any reason to use the stock driver over 10.7 other than the power stuff? From what I've read, the 10.7 has better performance than the stock, but has the power issues which I really don't care about.

 

I would say just use what ever is making you happy...

No way of anyone to really tell you what you should or should not do because everyone plays different games or has different results with drivers...

So if 10.7s are working good then just leave them on till you run into an issue then think about rolling back or what ever...

For now since you just got the machine just have some fun with it and forget about the whole driver debacle .... You have plenty of time worry about that later on ...

 

Only 10.7a+ allows SC2 to run AA.

Otherwise SC2 disables it for... well... I dont know what good reason they have.

I cant stand playing a game without AA. Its just not pretty.

As for the sc2 melt, it got fixed in patch 1.02.

Annnnnnd... vsync.

I vsync everything. I stops screen tearing. I cant stand screen tearing.
It makes your fps appear a lot higher than without vsync as well, especially if you use triple buffering.

Vsync DOES give a bit of input/mouse lag, but on an RTS thats largely irrelevant. Even one as fast as sc2.

-Ash

 

Sorry, that's what I meant - set back to default. This could definitely apply to 5870 configs as well. Keep in mind that the 10.7 ATI stack has known problems with power management, as did the Dell beta, so this probably only applies if you are running stock drivers...

 

Even on my single card machine if i use anything but the stock driver when i restart i just get black screen with the keyboard lights on till i physically reboot the machine .... So i guess its not just Crossfire issue....

The M15x i had before this ran perfect on any driver with 0 issues... Im not sure how much different the 5850 bios is vs the 5870 bios seeing that they are both the same exact card etc...

 

Brian, quick question for you....how are things going with a fix? - just curious and im not being pushy as we all appreciate you have other work. I dont get as much opportunity to check things at thhe moment and would be good to hear any news (good or bad) you may have.....thanks !!!

 

That happened to me 2 times one night and hasn't happened since. Not sure what that was about.

 

Good news! Engineering is in the final stages of testing a new Dellized AMD beta graphics driver (8.763). This driver will work with all AMD cards that Dell has shipped on the M15x, M17x and M17xR2. Assuming all goes well, we should hopefully be able to post this driver sometime next week. Engineering believes that this driver will be much more stable than the previous beta or the 10.7 reference stack.

We also have a new VBIOS available for the 5870 cards (this is not for the 4870s), but we won’t be posting on support.dell.com at this time. This VBIOS should fix lock ups and black screens that some of you saw when booting up on battery power only with 8.761 (the last beta).

If you are interested in beta testing this new VBIOS, you can PM me with your personal email address and I’ll send it to you once we release the new driver, but only if you acknowledge that you are OK with a couple of VERY IMPORTANT issues with this VBIOS:


1) This VBIOS is ONLY for the 5870 cards and works with single or crossfire confingurations. There is currently no update needed for the 4870 cards.

2) The VBIOS can be run from Windows, but you must run As Administrator. If you don’t know how to do this, please stick with the current VBIOS until we post this version to support.dell.com.

3) This VBIOS will flash your card to the latest revision. You will be unable to flash the card back to the previous version after performing the upgrade. Should you run into problems or glitches, you’ll need to live with them until a newer VBIOS can be developed/released.

4) The new VBIOS will only work with 8.7xx ATI drivers. If you attempt to use a driver earlier than the 8.7xx stack, your system will BSOD before getting into Windows. You will NOT be able to return to the A00 Dell drivers, even if you want to...

5) You will not post or distribute my email address anywhere, nor will you use that email address to contact me directly. You can continue to contact me via the NB Forums as needed.

 

You got pm

Did they happen to test the displayport multiple display gaming problem?

I know they probably didnt... but a man can dream.

-Ash

 

Is the new VBIOS only nescessary for people who black screen and BSOD?

Will the new Dell driers allow aa in SC 2 as 10.7a does?

I, as I'm sure everyone does, appreciate the work you've done as well as keeping us informed and part of the equation. Thank you!

 

I'm not familiar with this issue. Send me a PM with the details and the link here and I'll send it up to them.

 

No, you don't need the VBIOS if you weren't seeing problems. You can always wait until we A-rev the driver and flash it then.

The new drivers are newer than 10.7a from what I understand, so assuming it works there, I would assume it would work in ours.

 

Sent another pm.

Watch the youtube video I linked to see it in action. I have posted the problem a couple times in your original release thread for the 10.8.

-Ash

 

Originally Posted by Quadzilla
Even on my single card machine if i use anything but the stock driver when i restart i just get black screen with the keyboard lights on till i physically reboot the machine .... So i guess its not just Crossfire issue....

same here 3 times.

last beta catalyst driver
ati 5870 cf
lates drivers from dell

 

What does "A-rev the driver" mean?

 

Thats great news Brian!!!!

Have been looking forward to a fully functional version of the drivers for my 5870's since i got my system!

Good luck to all you guys who decided (braver than me lol) to test 'em out for Brian.....will keep my eyes on this thread eagerly.

 

This is apparently fixed, or at least they couldn't duplicate with the new driver.