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    Guide: Flash your GTX 580M to GTX 675M in the R3!

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by GeoCake, Apr 12, 2012.

  1. Lanscaper

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    I just had to rename the gtx675.bin to gtx675.rom because the version of nvflash I used required .nvr or .rom extention. Not sure if anyone else will run into that but a simple rename from .bin to .rom made it proceed without further issue.

    (I used the optimus flash procedure in widezu's sig)
     
    Lanscaper, Apr 13, 2012
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  2. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    ^^Good point :)
     
    widezu69, Apr 13, 2012
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    Also I think depending on the drivers you will use, the GPU-Z will be slightly different: look at the Boost on my GPU-Z
    [​IMG]

    Don't know if anyone noticed yet (actually you might not because you use P1=P0) but P1 clocks is now 405/1500 rather than 475/1500.
     
    pau1ow, Apr 14, 2012
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  4. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    Yeah I get that too, doesn't mean anything though does it? :p

    [​IMG]

    This makes me mad. When is official driver support coming? The card is technically released?
     
    GeoCake, Apr 16, 2012
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  5. Heihachi_1337

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    Didn't you just flash your GTX580M to the 675M? Theoretically, wouldn't that make it a 580M still?

    Also, I believe the 301.24 BETA drivers may be supporting this. At least some of the folks with the GTX680 desktop card were using these drivers from what I had gathered. Granted, different cards (desktop/laptop) but under the 6xx banner.
     
    Heihachi_1337, Apr 16, 2012
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  6. katalin_2003

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    The ID changes once the card is flashed so it's recognized as a 675M which has a different ID than the 580M.
    Getting the drivers to install is an easy task by basically adding the 675M IDs to the .inf files.
     
    katalin_2003, Apr 16, 2012
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  7. Tazadar

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    Will the 675m flash make some kind of performance boost or just add the 675 name? ^^
     
    Tazadar, Apr 17, 2012
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  8. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    No performance boost at all. Only the name. Even a real 675m is not any more powerful than a 580m.
     
    widezu69, Apr 17, 2012
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  9. Toledano

    Toledano Notebook Evangelist

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    ..... then why are you guys even doing this? lol
     
    Toledano, Apr 17, 2012
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  10. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    I've gained around 50 GPU points on 3DMark11 at the same clocks on the 675M vbios, tiny but still there.. I'll post results when I get my home Internet back.

    We are doing this because it can be done.... What a stupid question. -.-
     
    GeoCake, Apr 17, 2012
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  11. Toledano

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    lol, good answer.
     
    Toledano, Apr 17, 2012
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  12. lzykocp1002

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    gtx 675m is the very exact card of the gtx 580m even the stock gpu clocks are the same which contradicts earlier statements it being clocked higher.

    so really no difference, gtx 680m in fall for true nvidia successor, free name upgrade for show to any current users, fyi 50 point increase in 3dmark is within the margin of error, no 3dmark score will be the same even if you benched the same rig over and over(probability is highly unlikely)
     
    lzykocp1002, Apr 17, 2012
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  13. ht_addict

    ht_addict Notebook Evangelist

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    Flashed mine. Cheap way to get a new videocard.
     
    ht_addict, Apr 17, 2012
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  14. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Good way to extend official driver support for a long time...also always good to have the latest optimized BIOS. :)

    That boost tab is interesting, I thought only Kepler cards are suppose to have Turbo Boost. ;)
     
    Prema, Apr 18, 2012
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  15. GBR13

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    Flashed mine too but 3D stop working... back to 580m solve... how can sat 675m and 3D working? i used clean install option drivers...
     
    GBR13, Apr 18, 2012
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  16. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    3D will only work with Dell certified cards. Currently only the 580m, 460m and 560m work. This is in the bios and cannot be changed by anyone but Dell.
     
    widezu69, Apr 18, 2012
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  17. blink_c

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    Is that just the 3D with the built in monitor? I was looking to do this soon on my M18x, but I still want to be able to use 3D external monitors.
     
    blink_c, Apr 18, 2012
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  18. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    External monitors should be fine on any card.
     
    widezu69, Apr 18, 2012
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  19. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    what?? when you flash the vbios, you get a turbo boost tab??
     
    maxheap, Apr 18, 2012
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  20. ValkerieFire

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    Cool thread, makes me wish I still had an M17. :(
     
    ValkerieFire, Apr 18, 2012
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  21. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Prema, Apr 22, 2012
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  22. residualvoltage

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    What kind of function is this Turbo tab?
     
    residualvoltage, Apr 25, 2012
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  23. MickyD1234

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    Blink_c, did you buy the nvidia 3d kit or use 3DTV play with a 3d tv (and glasses)?

    I'm asking as I first bought an MX18 but when I called Alienware support about what works they told me (totally wrongly!) that the MX18 could not do 3D and even sent me a link to a very old Nvidia doc stating external 3D only works through a dual-link DVI connection - before the advent of HDMI connections. As I had only just got it I sent it back for a 3D MX17.

    Just thinking about a future purchase :)
     
    MickyD1234, Apr 26, 2012
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  24. katalin_2003

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    The tech was right in a way because the M18x won't output 120Hz thru HDMI. You would need to use the miniDP port instead to either DisplayPort or dual link DVI.
     
    katalin_2003, Apr 26, 2012
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  25. MickyD1234

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    Thanks, Would have been struggling with that one IF I go for an MX18 and a 120hz big screen.

    So I'd need a connector from the MX18 miniDP to HDMI to go to a TV, or would I need to go via dual-link DVI?
     
    MickyD1234, Apr 26, 2012
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  26. katalin_2003

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    No problem.
    In that case it will depend if the TV/Monitor can output 120Hz using the HDMI input, not many do so watch out for this marketing trap.

    Anyway, your options are:
    -get a TV/Monitor with a DisplayPort input and you'll need a miniDP to DP connection.
    -or one with dual link DVi input for which you'll need a miniDP to dual link DVi adapter (they run at ~ 85$ - 100+$).
     
    katalin_2003, Apr 26, 2012
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  27. blink_c

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    ^ This, sorry I didn't respond sooner

    Mickey, I'm using the miniDP to DL-DVI adapter for mine. If you search around the web you can find a decent price.
     
    blink_c, Apr 26, 2012
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  28. MickyD1234

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    NP, Thanks blink_c.

    Makes the purchase of a tv/monitor a little tricky, and I guess you loose sound over that so now I'm wondering if going for a 3DTV and using the Nvidia 3DTV play that is built into the driver (I believe, I know it is a purchase if you do not already have their emitter) is a safer option... :)

    Thanks very much, never straightforward, and with spending a bunch of cash I'd like to get it right first time :)
     
    MickyD1234, Apr 26, 2012
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  29. katalin_2003

    katalin_2003 NBR Spectre Super Moderator

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    If you choose the miniDP to DP route, sound is also transferred unlike DL DVI ;)

    Don't worry, we're here for you.
     
    katalin_2003, Apr 26, 2012
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  30. vginside

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  31. MickyD1234

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    Thanks!! :)
     
    MickyD1234, Apr 27, 2012
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  32. Mr. Fox

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    I don't see any "turbo tab" in the screen shot posted. Maybe the image is too small for me to see it clearly.

    I still don't see any real point in flashing the GTX 675M vBIOS to the GTX 580M GPU. Nothing to be gained with the potential (although small) risk that I can see at this point.

     
    Mr. Fox, Apr 27, 2012
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  33. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    It called "boost" and is on the right side of that pic in the gpu-z window, I guess gpu-z is just showing it because It's a 6xxM...
     
    Prema, Apr 27, 2012
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  34. Mr. Fox

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    Oh, OK... thanks. I can see that now. The image is small and hard for me to read. So, now there is a "Boost" field where GPU-Z normally displays "Shader" clocks. I wonder what, if any, significance there is to that. Maybe just a change in vBIOS architecture? It will be interesting to find out as more information comes forth. It may be the "bumped clock" reading that is already present in the existing Fermi GPU architecture, but not normally shown in GPU-Z.
     
    Mr. Fox, Apr 27, 2012
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  35. residualvoltage

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    I agree MrFox seems pointless to flash 580m to 675m with the above evidence
     
    residualvoltage, Apr 28, 2012
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  36. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    First post updated with the Dell 675M vbios, credits on first post too.

    Not pointless - always nice to have an updated vbios, plus one is technically prolonging their tech.. lol
     
    GeoCake, May 8, 2012
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  37. vginside

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    Hi,
    Did you happen to notice that pixel fill rate in 675M is 9.9GPixel/sec whereas in 580M is 19.8Gpixel/sec... :p

    Regards!
     
    vginside, May 9, 2012
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  38. littleone562

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    Geo is the overvolted and the regular bios posted on the first post both dell vbios or is 1 clevo or both?
     
    littleone562, May 9, 2012
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  39. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    Yet another bug in GPU-Z, nothing to worry about at all. :)

    On the first post, both regular and overvolted are Dell vbios.

    Since it's an Alienware forum, I figured we don't need any Clevo vbios here (even though both work).
     
    GeoCake, May 9, 2012
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  40. littleone562

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    Geo also wondering, is this bios from dell most up to date (ie shipping with current 675's stock?) or has revision been made recently.
     
    littleone562, May 9, 2012
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  41. devillucifer

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    After a while using the 675m bios both clevo and dell (still prefer dell)
    thx Geo! gotta rep some1 else so i can rep u again lolz.

    For me : the temp is much lower when you use this bios with adaptive vsync!
    in heavy gaming (OC 740) the temp is away hovering around ~59*C to low 6x*C O__o before was 6x to 7x. (with adaptive vsync too)
    idle temp : 29->39 depend on room temperature.

    I think the Gpu boost have something to do with this.

    p.s : the test was done in Dell precision M6600 (optimus disabled) in case any1 wondering.
     
    devillucifer, May 9, 2012
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  42. GeoCake

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    Little Washu extracted it from his newly arrived M17x R4 w/ GTX 675M. As far as I know it's the latest one :)
     
    GeoCake, May 9, 2012
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  43. littleone562

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    thanks geo
     
    littleone562, May 9, 2012
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  44. svl7

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    The Dell vbios is quite a bit older than the Clevo one.
     
    svl7, May 9, 2012
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  45. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    Well then it's technically the latest Dell one? :p

    Any difference between the Dell and Clevo vbios svl7?
     
    GeoCake, May 9, 2012
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  46. svl7

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    Yes, there are. There's a huge block of data which is completely different, no idea what it exactly is, or whether it's really needed.
    But the part describing the hardware settings and capabilities (Ram, clock domains, voltage, temps etc. ... ) are all identical.
     
    svl7, May 9, 2012
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  47. GBR13

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    The vbios link on first page 675m is dell version?
     
    GBR13, May 9, 2012
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  48. GeoCake

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    Once again yes, both stock and overvolted @ first post = Dell vbios.
     
    GeoCake, May 9, 2012
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  49. GBR13

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    sorry... i flashed my card with this room but 3D still not working, i though with dell version 3D would be fixed
     
    GBR13, May 9, 2012
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  50. long2905

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    Are you on a spamming spree?
     
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