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    How to OC the M17x-R2 using SetFSB

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by 5150Joker, Jun 23, 2010.

  1. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    If that clock generator is working theres no need to change. It won't gain you anything. It'll do the same thing, adjust the same registers. The only thing I think I would change would be to increase the voltage in the bios for more stability if you havn't already, and it might allow a slight bit further overclock. Other than that, maybe overclock the GPUs if you want to boost the scores. Other than that it looks good. I actually havn't benched my 720 yet, I've been pretty lazy. Probably this afternoon I'll do a little bit though
     
  2. reborn2003

    reborn2003 THE CHIEF!

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    Cool, Thanks for that. Yeh I will increase that Vcore to 150mv or something after watching the game.

    I tried setting on of the pll's to 39 before and it crashed the entire system. Its on 37 atm so I think I might be able to get 38 or even 39 with the increase in Vcore settings.

    I'll run a few more bench runs later as well. Will try and give you some numbers to beat LOL. eheheheheh ;) :D :D
    I think I should take the benching back to the benchmarking thread though. So see you over there. oles

    Cheers. :)
     
  3. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    lol sounds good. I'll look forward to seeing it!
     
  4. Mechanized Menace

    Mechanized Menace Lost in the MYST

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    Just one question John How? I can't get any higher than 3.28 what PLL registers did you change and what combo was it on? 40/18?
     
  5. sazistas

    sazistas Notebook Consultant

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    Hello,
    I have an alienware m17x R2 with i7 620m processor. As I see in the bios the overclocking feature is disabled and cannot enable it. So, can I use the SETFSB program to push my CPU to its limits?
    thanks
     
  6. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

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    i didnt change any pll registers.
     
  7. I am gamer

    I am gamer Notebook Consultant

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    Hey.. Ive tested setfsb and i can change it from 1596mhz to 1772mhz, and its ok.. I tested lower and higher but it freezes at 1800+. But my question is in Vantage and 3dmark06 i can see that it works. But when i try games, all of them get lower fps. At 1772mhz up to 10fps. 1650mhz up to 5fps lower. And index worked one time. Got from 7.0 to 7.2. But now when i try setfsb i get 7.0 to 6.9?? And i tested Maffia 2 some days ago And saw in the benchmark cpu 1.60 (1.80) and improved my fps by 3. But now its like all the other games it lowers the original fps by 3-4. And it says cpu 1.60 (1.60). So what did i do before that i dont do now?? Anybody?
     
  8. reborn2003

    reborn2003 THE CHIEF!

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    Hmmssss yeh sounds like Overclocking lol. It can be quite hit and miss. Some programs will enjoy the OC settings while others won't like it at all. So in other words some games or applications may actually run better and others won't even run at all or will run worse. Its a combination of heat and power draw. You sound like you need more power/juice to keep the OC happy and stable.

    I remember the same thing happening to me. I was able to get a nice little boost the 1st time I OC the CPU and ran 3d mark 06 and Vantage. After that the next few times I tried to much around with it my numbers and overall performance was suffering and declining. I did the bios Vcore increase to 150mv and the ram timings as well however performance during OC wasn't that impressive. You could give that a go if you already haven't and see how it goes. I had my little fun with OCing for now and am back on Stock working comfortably again.

    However yeh Overclocking can actually lower performance in some cases rather than increasing it in every instance. Some programs, games or applications will tollerate it more than others. I'm assuming its a mixture of heat, not enough power and overall stability or even the RAM that will be holding you back.

    I'm sure the other more expert OCs will be able to tell you more about whats what though.

    Cheers. :)
     
  9. I am gamer

    I am gamer Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah.... Your probably right Mr Reborn.. I have my cards running in 850/1050/1.1v and i cant see any improvement in crossfire. But ive noticed in sniper ghost warier i had 41 fps before oc the gpu and after i have around 47.. And because the game doesnt support cf i had to play it with just one card. Mayby drivers do its point here also. But im just a bit ?????? about the setfsb??
     
  10. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    Here's a program called WinTimerTester that helps explain why some benchmark programs become completely inaccurate when you are using SetFSB.

    http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/3/1794507/WinTimerTester.zip
    http://www.mediafire.com/?io91a22pa6z8ntv

    The accurate measurement of time in a Windows PC is sometimes incorrectly based on the bus speed. When you change the bus speed using SetFSB, you can screw up the accuracy of these timers which are used to measure things like FPS. I believe Fraps has this issue so if you are depending on FPS data from Fraps after using SetFSB, you might get some very inconsistent results. Many other benchmark programs have the exact same issue.

    Run the program I posted above. It uses two different methods to measure time. If the two main Windows timers are not running at the same pace then you need to find some benchmarks that are not influenced by this issue.

    Edit: Link fixed.

    [​IMG]

    Within a minute (60 seconds), these two different timers should be reporting the same amount of elapsed time so the ratio should be very close to 1.000.
     
  11. reborn2003

    reborn2003 THE CHIEF!

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    Also forgot to mention that most games are GPU bound, so if its extra FPS your looking for than you will have to OC you GPUs a little. The CPU won't really give you much if any FPS increase in most games. It might help in a few and if you do both OC in combination.

    Cheers. :)
     
  12. BatBoy

    BatBoy Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Reminder -

    This thread is for the M17x - not Toshiba.
     
  13. Johnksss

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    sorry about that batboy...if not a problem..can you redirect to my off topic thread? i understand if you can't. thanks.
     
  14. BatBoy

    BatBoy Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    john,

    Feel free to PM him with your link - I have no idea which one you are talking about. Point is, lets not side track this thread with a non-M17x system.

    17x users are more than welcome to talk about OCing their system using SetFSB here in this thread - that is why the thread exists.

    For the person posting about his Toshiba - he can reach out in the Hardware forum, Toshiba forum, etc. I'm ok with a quick 1 or 2 post question but 20 some odd posts on the matter is derailing the thread.

    PM me if you want to discuss further.

    Thanks.
     
  15. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

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    lol
    understood!
     
  16. BatBoy

    BatBoy Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    @ van.H - use the link in John's signature as a resource in addition to the Toshiba and Hardware forums.

    Best of luck with your system...

    Thanks.
     
  17. kennyman

    kennyman Notebook Consultant

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    reborn2003 is 100% right, play it stock as a rock gives overall best performance in games...there is no point to OC cpu for games (dunno about extreme cpus though)...OC gpu for games is fine n will boost u a few frames.
    In 3dmarks06 benchmarks may give u super scores but it doesnt reflect in real world games fps.
    for example i am able to reach 18871 in 3dmarks06 (cpu+gpu OC'd) but in games it runs like sh!t or worst than stock, lost of FPS. whilst going back to stock cpu and scoring 16K 3dmarks06 (gpu OC'd only) give better overall & improved game results.

    for other applications, wprime, pi, and all other benchmarks...maybe cpu OC is worth it. testing ur cpu to its limits. i don't know. but for games stick to GPU OC only. leave the cpu alone, best results. other than that u must get extreme cpu to really improve real game performances.

    if i am wrong please correct me, im still learning :)
     
  18. CptXabaras

    CptXabaras Overclocked, Overvolted, Liquid Cooled

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    So...

    i'm playing a bit and got my 840 running @140fsb.

    I did a reboot and started setFSB again to overclock as it was and found that the settings didn't change with the reboot and the cpu was still OC'ed.

    Is setFSB suppose to do just temporary changes that goes away with a reboot?
     
  19. amirau2000

    amirau2000 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I was trying to rollback bios from A10 to A09 on my M17xr2 had an accident of power failure, now my system has no power at all , battery is fully charged, charger is working but nothing work on my laptop , please help.
     
  20. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    You need to do a crisis BIOS recovery. Make your own thread for it. Does not belong here.
     
  21. CptXabaras

    CptXabaras Overclocked, Overvolted, Liquid Cooled

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    what happend to the procedure to OC with setFSB?
     
  22. 5150Joker

    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    Its outdated. You can simply download Wiz's bios and do a lot more with it.
     
  23. Sean50

    Sean50 Notebook Guru

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    Joker you should put it back up coz your instructions on how to use setfsb were really good, as you went into detail about each register that needed to be changed and made it all make sense - Plus you can overclock it more with setfsb than the 5% that TheWiz's bios can at the moment.
     
  24. aldam

    aldam Notebook Evangelist

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    hi,
    Maybe you could help me. As you can see I have m6500 which is "similar" to mx17-r2 ;)
    I'd like to use setfsb but I don't know the PLL. But there is a chance this laptops use the same motherboard.

    Could you please

    Run CPU-Z 1.50
    http://www13.plala.or.jp/setfsb/download/etc/cpuz_150.zip
    Registers Dump [.txt] of [About] tab

    I need info about Chipset and mainboard.



    I's from my m6500
    I also
    1) start SetFSB 2.3.165.130.
    2) select the clock generator to “PLL diagnosis”.
    3) click "Diagnosis" button.
    4) click "Get FSB" button.
    5) click "Capture" button.

    [​IMG]
     
  25. wckddudeman

    wckddudeman Newbie

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    Im wondering what it is you are talking about? I have googled and coming up short. setFSB freeware doesnt have the support for m17x
     
  26. CptXabaras

    CptXabaras Overclocked, Overvolted, Liquid Cooled

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    The CG ICS9LPRS365BGLF is the same we have on our R2's. Of course it have support for it. Just have a look here. Read and understand.

    And about what he is talking about, google for "R2 VF1 A10 bios" and you'll see
     
  27. wckddudeman

    wckddudeman Newbie

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    According to his site:

    ASUS G73JH (ASUS G53JW/N71JV/G73JH/G73JW/G75JH/U45JC/UL30JT/UL80JT/U36JC/N53JQ-SX070V, DELL Alienware M17x-R2/M11x-R2, Acer TimelineX 1830T/3820T/4820TG/Aspire 4745G/5745G, Sager NP8120, Toshiba L640, HP G42T)

    Which is not on the freeware one.
    I came to this by not getting any changes from running setfsb. Now looking back I see it did work but no change in the registers is what threw me off. Ty for that info though
     
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