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    M17X Overclocking Thread

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Joebarchuck, Jun 26, 2009.

  1. Kcissem

    Kcissem Notebook Evangelist

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    you can overclock it in the bios using the fsb frequencies, This will speed up your whole system not just your cpu and if you go to far with the fsb the comp may not boot and you will need to take the cmos battery out and put back in to reset the bios back to defaults.

    Good place to start is a 1200 fsb setting, boot run tests and if stable up it by another 10 then repeat until you hit the max setting your cpu is stable at, so once you bsod go back some and run more tests to ensure that setting is completely stable.
     
  2. airplaneman

    airplaneman Notebook Deity

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    Ok, thanks. Here's the thing..I tried messing around with the FSB settings (unlinked of course) and rasied the FSB Frequency to 1110 and hit save and the system crashed and wouldn't boot so I had to reset the CMOS.. :(
     
  3. Judas543

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    do you mean if you oc to far your pc boots but you get red lights??

    I just boot the pc three times and the bios reset itself and you have to fix the oc
     
  4. airplaneman

    airplaneman Notebook Deity

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    Oh, I tried booting a bunch but I would just get a black screen, I could hear the HDD spinning and the Alienhead's eyes were flashing, the numlock and scroll lock indicaters were on and the capslock one was flashing..it was, for lack of a better word, F***ed I didn't even have that high of an OC, went from 1066 MHz to 1110 MHz.
     
  5. cdcool

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    FSB at 1080 11x is not stable either, trying 1075 now. 1080 will not provide a consistant overclock. 1075 gets you 2.956 in CPU-Z.

    Not crashes as yet.
     
  6. Judas543

    Judas543 Notebook Consultant

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    how can you check what your overclock is in cpu-z?
     
  7. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    ummm it will say what speed your CPU is ...
     
  8. cdcool

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    1110 is too high for the majority of us..not sure how some peolple are getting 3.06 and higher stable...makes me jealous.

    try 1075 at 11x..I seem to be stable here for now. @ 2.96
     
  9. HaloGod2007

    HaloGod2007 Notebook Virtuoso

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    jeez dell needs to give you guys a bios update....im running 3.2ghz stable and can game for a bit at 3.3ghz on my m17 with the qx9300....you guys need a voltage bump the m17x is a beast waiting to be unleashed
     
  10. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    yeah you do. but i don't know if dell would do that
     
  11. cdcool

    cdcool Notebook Consultant

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    I hope we get it...The M17X support still comes from the Alienware side not Dell, The box does'nt have a logo on it.

    I called Dell, got the run around and was finally sent back to Alienware. Alienware has the M17X under a new support account that uses your M17X service tag.

    So you buy it from Dell, but it's serviced by the same Alienware techs., you call the same Alienware support number.
     
  12. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    So the m17x doesnt stutter, but also doesnt OC.

    I am prime95'ing my Qx9300 at 3067 Mhz now (10.5x 292 - 1169 FSB) and I got a BAD CPU for OC'ing.

    Tradeoffs....

    edit 1: REALLY bad cpu for OC - talk about dam lemons...I am now down to testing 288 FSB...been dropping 1 mhz at a time using setfsb as I would really like to hope I will get stable soon...around 3GHz...

    edit 2: so it has been going for a while now in prime95 at FSB= 286.8 (1147.6) and 10.5x so final speed of 3012.2...I will let it prime overnight to see if this sticks but sadly I think these are the limits of my individual chip - guess this time its my turn to have the bad luck. I will have spare time again on thursday night when I will see how far it goes under 10x but I am not expecting much. 11x BSOD at stock FSB thus my complete and utter lack of effort there. Sucks to be me
     
  13. BIGX333

    BIGX333 Brazillian Overclocker

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    Of course it do OC, the unique problem is that voltage is low.
     
  14. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    It overclocks just not as high as many would like , currently the average Qx9300 owner is running around 2.93ghz stable some i believe 2.97.

    The bios though lets you decide if you want to overclock through the mulitplier or the FSB or both even , so lots of choices. Just need a choice of Voltage :).
     
  15. BIGX333

    BIGX333 Brazillian Overclocker

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    Memory timings would be nice too but i think that it's already ask too much for a laptop haha :D
     
  16. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Yeah it is but since were asking it cant hurt to add it to the pile :).
     
  17. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    well its good to hear that seems to be the average....I guess the crowd I been around is special. they all talking about their 3.2+ OC's haha.

    I know the m17x has the capability, but I meant that it typically OC's lower than W840DI based notebookts (myself not representing the norm - dam this cpu).

    By having the multi in my OCZ bios and setfsb I got the same flexibility as you with exception being RAM. Although word on the street is I get more voltage to help me out. (I show 1.200 in CPU-Z 1.42 although according to Intel these cpu's max at 1.175?) Mine is an ES though (QGNG), so voltage may be different than retail samples.
     
  18. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    That couple hundred MHZ extra were missing wont have any effect on the games we play its more just benching and the E-peen.
     
  19. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    But those are the only 2 things I do on this laptop besides use it as a mobile system haha. I got an awesome desktop for actual gaming....
     
  20. BIGX333

    BIGX333 Brazillian Overclocker

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    17" can't really be called mobile system :D
     
  21. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    i love laptops and i won't go lower then 17"
     
  22. Quadzilla

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    I have an awesome desktop for gaming as well but ill end up playing many games on it as well . If i were buying this machine just to run a couple benchmarks and thats it then i would have never bought it, unless of course your just made of money and bored at the same time.
     
  23. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    I do game on the laptop, but only when the desktop is not accessible. If I was made of money, I'd have a different laptop (probably a np9262 with Q9650 and 9800m GTX SLI)
     
  24. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    then sell it and wait alittle bit :rolleyes:

    who know maybe you'll find one with a x3380 :rolleyes:
     
  25. BIGX333

    BIGX333 Brazillian Overclocker

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    M17x will be my "desktop" and i will keep my 13" macbook for road warrior :D

    At least till they release core i9... I don't think that i can resist to 6 cores :D
     
  26. Quadzilla

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    Dadah when you getting the next GPU ? forget the CPU for now :).
     
  27. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    i only have a laptop. i don't have a desktop but i will build a cheap one just for fixing peoples desktops(recovering a hdd, testing parts to see if it is there system or what,, etc)

    next week :) :) :) :)

    but i have to get the heatsinks/fan/sli cable but i am going to get the sli cable this week and maybe the fan as well.
     
  28. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    the np9262 can probably hold a pair of gtx 280m as well. This could get exciting FAST. If I was made of money.....lol
     
  29. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    not really. i can't push my clocks no where near as the 280m gtx.

    i can break 1000 on the memory but i haven't tried to push nothing else to much but i think my limit for the core is 670. i did 660 though.
     
  30. Quadzilla

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    No he means that you could probably put them in there but the 9262 is not MxM 3.0b so it wont work :(.
     
  31. dondadah88

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    there is two 280m gtx out. the one that fits this doesn't have a sli connector and the one that doesn't fit, has the sli connector, so that new socket business is garbage. i'm mad nvidia switched.
     
  32. Quadzilla

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    those cards were built with different things in mind though , one for an older platform IE the 5797 and the new ones for the M17x and Sager 9850 , the new machines will probably see new cards so MxM 3.0 was needed but the other machines are End of life material.
     
  33. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    i realized that but still. oh well. my 9800m gtx is performing great in games, just need the sli to make it complete(and the cpu and hdd.)
     
  34. aneroid

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    i'm running at 3.02 GHz right now. 11x mult, memory & FSB at 1099. ran OCCT for 30 minutes and didn't get a BSOD. comp was running for 1 hr 20 mins before BSODing...when i

    was first going to post this. think i'll stay at 2.93 GHz for now until we get a BIOS that lets us overvolt.
     
  35. aneroid

    aneroid Notebook Evangelist

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    and after posting that...been playing left 4 dead for 5 hrs @ 3.02 GHz. and no crash. towards the end...comp stuttered for 15-20 seconds and then my display was messed up with a lot of artifacting. the "Display driver nvlddmkm stopped responding and has successfully recovered" has been happening often enough, but this was the first time it recovered badly (with the artifacts - lines/mesh, etc.)

    ...and after typing that, it crashed again :-/
     
  36. Mandrake

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    Keep your multiplier at default and run your memory and FSB like you have been just bump it up until you get 3.06.
     
  37. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    are you overclocking the gpus any? I only get that error with nvidia graphics when I OC the gpu, NOT the cpu causing it

    And what is the verdict on increasing the PCI-e frequency (over 100 MHz) for increasing GPU performance?
     
  38. aneroid

    aneroid Notebook Evangelist

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    ok, will try. (3.06 GHz with default mult 9.5 would then be 1288 Mhz FSB.)

    no, not yet overclocking the GPUs. btw, riva tuner works well for OCing GPUs on the M17x?
     
  39. aneroid

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    ^^^^ happened again. the screenshot i took looks normal. and this is at 2.93 GHz which has been running stably so far. max temp on CPU is 68 C and GPUs at 72 & 69 (normal temps for me, usually are higher). any ideas why? will re-install graphics drivers.
     
  40. Judas543

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    is your nvidia set on performance too?
     
  41. Kcissem

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    remember when you are overclocking via FSB you are essentially overclocking everything in the computer, the cpu, the memory, the pcie slots( essentially this is overclocking the gpu)
     
  42. Mandrake

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    I believe rivatuner is not compatible with our chipset. I OC the GPU with the Nvidia system tools 6.05.
     
  43. aneroid

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    not sure i get what u mean. the power settings are set to high performance.
     
  44. Judas543

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    well my brother had the same problem with you, but he was using google earth. With the nvidia control panel you can change the quality to performance
     
  45. BIGX333

    BIGX333 Brazillian Overclocker

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    Overclocking pci-e only increase the bandwidth but since it's not a bottleneck it doesn't affect performance.

    BTW if i remember right this nvidia chipset have pci-e lock.

    PS: and about ram... divisors :p
     
  46. cdcool

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    I personally dont think the M17x really likes anything over 10.5x and 1066 FSB at its current state for too long.
     
  47. Judas543

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    Is nivdia tools only good for gpu overclock since i overclock the others via bios. And is there any pros of editing the memory timings tab? If so how can i do it
     
  48. BIGX333

    BIGX333 Brazillian Overclocker

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    Lower memory timmings = better performance but since you can't change CAS you can't do much anyway so...
     
  49. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    Check my Progras thread for programs to change ram
     
  50. Mandrake

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    Bump this up.
     
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