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    M17X Overclocking Thread

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Joebarchuck, Jun 26, 2009.

  1. Dustydelux

    Dustydelux Notebook Guru

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    I ran 3d mark at 3.06GHZ gave me a 15751 stock cards kept my CPU below 72C even played a little Crysis warhead seemed to be a little boost in fps
     

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  2. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Time to push it further.
     
  3. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    something is holding your computer back. Your running at 1280*800...

    you should be hitting high numbers with that.
     
  4. Dustydelux

    Dustydelux Notebook Guru

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    what would could be holding it back ?
     
  5. pdogg93

    pdogg93 Notebook Evangelist

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    i have successfully oc'd my cpu, but now i'm trying to oc my gpu's (280gtx sli) using nvidia tools 6.02 and everytime i try to load the custom profile i created (upped the gpu frequencies) i get a gray flashing screen and have to cold reboot

    any ideas what i'm doing wrong to overclock my gpus?
     
  6. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    use a different version of NST. 6.02 was buggy, do 6.05

    I had that trouble in vista, in win 7 was never an issue though
     
  7. pdogg93

    pdogg93 Notebook Evangelist

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    thanks i'll try 6.05
     
  8. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    My M17x suddenly won't overclock at all. I ran the chip at 1200, mem at 1200 previously with no issues and maxed at like 1250... now it won't budge at all. This is the A02 BIOS. I've also noticed that since moving to that BIOS, my fans randomly blast like crazy when I turn on the machine... and its weird because sometimes one will blast, the other won't and then it switches and then sometimes both go full blast, sometimes it freezes on POST... I don't like the A02 BIOS.......
     
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    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    I would reflash the BIOS to be sure it wasn't just a bad flash
     
  10. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    gotta love banned topics. lol.

    Yeah I might try going back to A02... but A01 seems to be working fine other than me needing to remember to disable the onboard graphics on next boot... 195.81 doesn't like hybrid SLi much.
     
  11. Aranthira

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    I have a new M17x T9800 (2.93ghz), 4gb 1066 memory, GTX280's sli.

    FSB and Memory are stock at 1066 each.

    I read about the 1:2 timings and incremental adjustments so i set the FSB and Memory to 1200 to see how it went. System booted fine.

    It was now 3.3ghz. Nice. However i recall Mandrake talking about slowing the memory down by increasing the latency. So i took note of the numbers for the memory.

    8,8,8,23,31,2t at 1200
    7,7,7,21,27,2t at 1066

    So what i'm asking is "is this acceptable?" Or should i keep the memory at 1066 and increase the FSB to 1200 or more for the cpu overclock?

    Or as some have done should i buy the kingston hyperx 1333 memory and take a new approach by down clocking that memory and oc's the FSB so that they are both 1250. I understand that each chip will perform differently, i'm asking this last question wondering about the method and if i understand what i have read here correctly.

    Thank you

    M17x, Nebula Red, T9800 2.9ghz, 4gb 1066 ram, 320 gb 7200 rpm hd's Raid 0, GTX280's sli, 1900x1200, Win7 Home Premium, Blue ray rom.

    Dell XPS 730x, Nebula Red, Core i7 965 Factory OC to 3.74 ghz, H2c liquid cooling, 300gb velicoraptor, Blueray rom, Gtx280, 6gb 1333 ram, 1000w power, SB Titanium, Vista Ultimate, 28" monitor, 5.1 surround.

    Falcon Northwest Mach V, Aluminum, Qx6850 at 3.0, 4gb Dominator 800mhz, hitachi 1tb hd, 8800GTX Ultra's sli, EVGA 780i, DVD-rw, 1000w power, Zalman 9700 cpu cooler, Win 7 Ultimate.
     
  12. Aranthira

    Aranthira Notebook Consultant

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    Bump....anyone?
     
  13. DirkaDirka

    DirkaDirka Notebook Guru

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    Hey im new to this areah of OCing. would someone be kind enough to give me directions how to get the job done right? I've been in the Bio's and in the overclocking, but there aren't many choices there. I'll be doing this in a cold tent, so i wont have to worry about overheating.
     
  14. Aranthira

    Aranthira Notebook Consultant

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    Bump.......
     
  15. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Your answer is whatever you test to be more stable. When I was talking about loosening memory timings I was referring to stability of the M17.
     
  16. Aranthira

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    Thanks for the clairification. I have both memory and FSB at 1250 now.

    So far so good. Played Lotro for about 20 min. no problems.

    cpu is now 3.43 which is a nice 500mhz jump.

    Ram timings are now. 11, 9,9,24,32

    temps under load were mid to high 50's on the gtx280's and mid 40's on the cpu.

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    M17x, Nebula Red, T9800 2.9ghz, 4gb 1066 ram, 320 gb 7200 rpm hd's Raid 0, GTX280's sli, 1900x1200, Win7 Home Premium, Blue ray rom.

    Dell XPS 730x, Nebula Red, Core i7 965 Factory OC to 3.74 ghz, H2c liquid cooling, 300gb velicoraptor, Blueray rom, Gtx280, 6gb 1333 ram, 1000w power, SB Titanium, Vista Ultimate, 28" monitor, 5.1 surround.

    Falcon Northwest Mach V, Aluminum, Qx6850 at 3.0, 4gb Dominator 800mhz, hitachi 1tb hd, 8800GTX Ultra's sli, EVGA 780i, DVD-rw, 1000w power, Zalman 9700 cpu cooler, Win 7 Ultimate.
     
  17. Explosivpotato

    Explosivpotato Notebook Consultant

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    Try running a stability program like ORTHOS, OCCT, or WPrime. Just because it runs without bluescreens, doesn't mean it's 100% stable.
     
  18. calibrah

    calibrah Notebook Guru

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    How do you change the CPU multiplier?
     
  19. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    you need an extreme CPU to do so. It will be an option in the bios if you install one.
     
  20. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    You can change the CPU multiplier if your CPU is unlocked. On the P8600 you can't because it's locked. Extreme processors like the QX9300 have unlocked multipliers.
     
  21. dirtydan

    dirtydan Notebook Guru

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    isnt the q9000 unlocked as well? can any of the r2 be overclocked?
     
  22. cleverpseudonym

    cleverpseudonym PG RATED

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    no Q9000 isnt unlocked, only the Q9200 & Qx9300 & X9100 for m17, M17x-r1

    im fairly certain that only the i7-920xm is oc-able on the R2
     
  23. Mandrake

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    I was surprised to see voltage options available with the 720 in the BIOS.
     
  24. SAUCE

    SAUCE ★ ★ ★

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    The voltage options are available in all models ram,cpu.
     
  25. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    So they give you a voltage option, but no blck adjustment?
     
  26. SAUCE

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    In bios you have option to change DDR3 Voltage & CPU Vcore,Turbo on /off but the CPU overclocking is obviously unavailable unless you got the 920xm.
     
  27. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    lame, can the pll be used in any programs?
     
  28. SAUCE

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    Someone got the data sheet & sent to Abo the japanese guy "SetFSB" & he said not possible but not sure what the reason was.
     
  29. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    are there no other programs that can manipulate the blck?
     
  30. SAUCE

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    Dunno scook
    I have not researched this but i am sure its been already covered by the diehard's here already.Bloody shame though.
     
  31. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    It is a shame, the R1 has full overclocking
     
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    Yeah i used to run my T9800 on the R1 @ 3.6 was great.
     
  33. TheCodeBreaker

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    I sent the datasheet to abo, he said that he could not support it after seeing the datasheet, im guessing because of the design or something. I wanted to overclock the BCLK but i guess everything has its limits :p the weird thing is, HWinfo reports 150 as the BCLK speed at times, im not sure if that was what caused abo to not support the system.
     
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    Yes it is a shame.
     
  35. Hero1711

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    I am able to overclock my QX9300 to x11 (~3.4GHz). I notice that the adapter (power brick) is hotter than before. Will it break if I do heavy x264 encoding (~90-100% cpu usage) with multiplier x11 for a long time (about 48 hours or more continuously)?
     
  36. ttnuagmada

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    Has anyone replaced the thermal pads for the chipset and/or GPU's? If so, what were your results?

    I can get my T9600 stable up to 3.4 ghz but if i push for 3.5 (1333) i start having stability problems.

    I redid the thermal paste for the CPU's/GPU's and it seems to have made a pretty large difference in temps (CPU was maxing near 80C with Prime95 but now it doesnt break 70) but this didn't seem to help me get there like I was hoping.

    Whats strange to me is that in Prime95, Core 0 will be the one that errors, yet it runs 2-3C cooler than Core 1.
     
  37. TurbodTalon

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    From my past experiences, I'd just be happy with the 600Mhz OC you're already enjoying. My X9100 runs stock at 3.06Ghz, and if I even think about 3.33Ghz (via BIOS multiplier), I BSOD.
     
  38. Mandrake

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    There are other programs but they are made by OEMs for their own systems and require specific bios support.
     
  39. ttnuagmada

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    That doesn't seem right. You should surely be able to get more out of it than that. Do you get the same results OCing the FSB? What kind of temps do you get? Such a weak overclock like that is a total shame for an EE. You could probably ebay it, get a t9600 or t9900 that would get much better speeds and then have a bit of cash left over.
     
  40. cookinwitdiesel

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    the x9100 will do more you just have to boost its voltage

    in the R1 the only program known to be able to do that is ThrottleStop - is how I was able to validate 4.33 GHz

    And Hero, what is your fsb? x11 at 266 will not give you 3.4 nor will it at 333
     
  41. Hero1711

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    When I set the multiplier in BIOS to x11 the CPU FSB and RAM bus (originally 533.3 MHz) was increased automatically. EVEREST said that:
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    CPU Clock - 3396.3 MHz (original: 2533 MHz, overclock: 34%)
    CPU Multiplier - 11x
    CPU FSB - 308.8 MHz (original: 266 MHz, overclock: 16%)
    Memory Bus - 617.5 MHz
    DRAM:FSB Ratio - 2:1
    
    When setting the multiplier from 11.5x to 12.5x, I got BSOD after the Windows boot logo. When setting the multiplier higher than 12.5x, I could not even boot from hardrive.
    So, back to the question; will the power brick break if I do heavy x264 encoding (~90-100% cpu usage) with multiplier x11 for a long time (about 48 hours or more continuously)?
     
  42. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Raising the multiple does not raise the fsb..... Try using another program to monitor your clocks
     
  43. Hero1711

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    Sorry, I am at stock speed and I can not restart the laptop right now, rendering on After Effects :(. I will do that later (17 hours to go) and check with cpu-z.
     
  44. ttnuagmada

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    So no one has replaced any thermal pads? The MCP and GPU MemIO are the hottest running parts in my computer, seems like there is some room for improvement.

    edit: also, does anyone know what thickness the stock ones are?
     
  45. Hero1711

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    I do not know which one is right anymore :confused: . This is my result:

    [​IMG]
     
  46. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Nothing alarming in that picture, the fsb is at 266(1066) and the multiplier is stepped down due to Intel SpeedStep for power savings. I know CPU-z and HWInfo32 are right on my machine, so just don't use Everest
     
  47. Hero1711

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    Okay, but how about this?

     
  48. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    No the power brick will not break itself. It has internal circuitry that will shut it off if too much power is being drawn.
     
  49. deltawing

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    I really don't even know where to start with overclocking, nor what the limits are but am interested in doing it
     
  50. Elkay

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    I'll vouch for that one. :D
     
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