M17X screen is SO DIM! ?

Thanks Sleey0 i didnt feel like digging around for the info but i have seen it so many times and mentioned so many times its burned into my brain and was a real selling point for me .

 

where did that second attachment come from?

'cause them saying "Dual CCFL" doesn't mean every option is "Dual CCFL"

I'm pretty sure that the m15x was marketed with a "Brightview Glossy" screen. but those who got the "1200p" version, didn't get a Brightview screen.

 

I got it from the detailed specs pdf (it is located on the dell support site along with the manuals).

Oh, and when Dell mentions Trulife it just means glossy.

 

keep those documents... they may be useful sometime in the future...

but if the case is that people are only getting single ccfl displays, I just hope it's not AW pulling a fast one, and Dell doesn't know... that'd suck for Dell.

 

My take on this is that AW/Dell planned on using dual bulb lcd's but wanted this thing out ASAP and decided it didn't matter.

They will still sell a ton of these things cuz most ppl/avg consumer/joe six-pack don't know about this stuff

 

the 1440 screen is not dual bulb

the 1900 res is confirmed to be the only dual bulb option

yay tech support

thats took a while

 

Could there be two versions of the 1900 res screen, single and dual bulb?

 

Considering all the conflicting "facts" I hope that is the reason.

 

that would still be false avertiseing and according to dell no!

other wise when you select 1900 res screen you would be asked ....

would you like single bulb or dual bulb

 

What are the chances they would offer RGB LED on this model in the future..

considering theres obviously a high demand for it xD

 

NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

omg please

THERE WILL NOT BE LED...unless they redesign it

 

Well I'd imagine a redesign wouldn't be hard nor complicated to replace the current display with a thinner, more efficient screen on the same chasis

 

yup...they are both advertised as dual bulb. and at no point in the customization is it mentioned that 1440 is/isn't or the 1900 is/isn't. so it would be very blatant false advertising to claim we didn't pick the option or that one has it and the other doesn't.

btw, what's the easiest way to know if it's dual or single? based just on brightness relative to other non-high-spec laptops?

 

The tech spec manual says that both should be dual bulb... i looked it up and i have the pdf saved to my pc... if they arent it is false advertisement for both screens.

 

Has anyone within europe got there hands on there M17x yet to compare screens?

 

I bought one considering a dual CCFL acreen will be a nice option, for one of the reasons, and now according to Mr.Moo's info my 1440x900 is not! Now isn't that false advertising? !!

 

Anyone got in contact with AW yet? Seems quite anoying paying so much for a machine and it having a pretty basic lit screen

 

Mandrake and I both have.... Alienware can not locate service tag info and dell cant either.. we both got the run around trying to get support.

 

Looks like a NBR class action lawsuit fomenting around this AW M17x LCD issue ...Where's Shyster?

 

Is he a lawyer?

Someone needs to talk to someone at Dell a little higher up and provide the pictures of the screen model and the verification from Samsung that it's actually a 1-CFFL LCD.

 

Rumored here on NBR to be a lawyer. His posts are very lawyerly.

 

He hangs at the Clevo boards. Notebooks/tech are his hobbies.

 

I don't buy that for one second....

 

The tech spec manual says both should be dual bulb.


key word... should lol

 

Although this CNET.UK article claims it has an LED backlit screen, I think they made a mistake. Wrong aspect ratio.

 

yea they prolly misspoke

 

confirmed by tech support and Team blackhawk

1440 is NOT dual bulb

1900 is dual bulb ......lol

 

then, imho, anyone who ordered the 1440 rightfully thinking it was dual bulb got ripped off.

nothing in the 'overview', tech specs or customization implies that the 1440 is NOT dual bulb. and they can't expect ppl to actually read the tech manual for something they don't yet own, to verify the details for something like this.

it's one thing to say something CAN have feature X (like advertising the dual 280M but getting the single 260M in stock config, which is clear in tech specs and customization). it's completely different and bad/evil to have done this.

not ranting, just making a point...about a feature that's not part of my order.

 

I also agree with you, I do not believe Mr. Moo.

 

I think mine WILL be dual bulb just because the Dell CSR's said it was the opposite

 

perhaps it's time for an AW rep to step in? or more ppl to confirm/deny. dunno how many ordered the 1440 but this could get messy...in a bad way.

 

I didn't buy this system for the dual lamp so I don't care one way or the other.

If I did buy it for that I would be pissed though!

 

The screen quality is a pretty big concern for me atm and will be a deciding factor in whether I cancel my cancelled order. What's the point of all that power if it just ends up all washed out anyway.

Would it be possible to set up a poll in this thread to see what the general consensus is regarding the quality of the screen ? Obviously some people are going to be more critical than others and we're less likely to hear from the people that are happy.

Suggestions for options could be:
1200p - Bright and beautiful
1200p - Some bleeding, but no bigee, I like it
1200p - Too dark for my liking
1200p - Utterly subpar, I'll try to change it.

And the same for 900p. We might be able to get some correlation.

 

digital vibrance can bring out your screen allot...
does it have an ambient light sensor that can be turned off and on?

 

That poll will be 100% subjectional.

 

Well ya, at the end of the day a screen is subjectional. You can quantify parameters like brightness into units but in the end it's your eyes that are going to be doing the measuring.

It's possible they're dual bulb but it still could just be a badly designed dual bulb screeen.

 

Over the last few years manufacturers have been using mediocre lcd's to reduce costs (which sucks for us).

Even Sony, who ALWAYS had the best displays on their systems, are now OK and have nothing that gets me all worked up over (although I have yet to see Sony's 18" RGBLED screen).

 

No where in the ordering does it say you are not getting dual lamps.

From what these are stating that ordering either display means that you are getting dual lamped.

Moo provide a link to where it says the one is not a dual lamp please. I don't go by what someone tells you without written proof.

 

well 2 differnt reps and 2 different tech support people is my confirmation.

no where in writeing

but i am not surprised its that way

 

Then Dell is falsely advertising that they will be. That is fraud. Either they say something to the fact and change the wording or they are in for a big problem.

Sales and Tech support need to re-read what is on the first page of their product description before stating what they did. Either they don't know the product or are now covering their butts.

 

This is quoted from the description page before you click on configure:

"Stunning Display — See bolder colors on the 17¨ widescreen LCD display. Featuring a dual CCFL back-lit LCD with higher brightness, the Alienware M17x will display more detailed, higher-quality imagery than single CCFL displays. And with an 8-ms response time, ghosting will be a thing of the past."

No where does it say "available" dual CCFL back-lit display. So I read this to mean any display you order for this machine has the dual back-lit display and 8ms response time.

That is what's advertised at their site.

 

I would laugh but given their track record this is disturbingly true.

 

Ah found a photo I took of my old fujitsu with the dual lamp screen. As you can notice it has almost zero light leakage, sign of a quality screen.

 

ur dark/blank screen is blue-ish? does it go any darker?

good to know what the standard for near-zero leakage is (including that mild bit at the bottom which is always present).

 

The camera accentuates what light that may be leaking along with the color of the blank screen. In reality I remember it being black and no noticeable light leakage.

 

So what about the LCD screen in the M17 with 1440 res ? just asking out of curiosity...

 

single bulb LG model

 

I wish mine was like this.. I need to call dell today and see if they can locate me in their system.

 

Until Dell or AW states it and makes this clear please do not answer for them.

 

I've got one and it appears to be dual bulb. It's very bright and the lighting is consistant.