M17X-R4 with GTX 1080 GDDR5X 8GB

No amount of INF modding is going to fix a power delivery deficit, but good luck!

 

Even if you can somehow TDP mod it to around ~150W and have it not power throttle, my question is, would it be more viable than a 1070 for actual performance? If not, a shame indeed...
At least it didn't cost you too much, and you still have a use for it

 

This is the driver where I will be able to do a benchmark using the gtx 1080 on the R4...Hopefully .... the drivers I have used before uses integrated , my driver modding suck .

 

Don't know if that's such relevant here: but the R4-MoBo doesn't seem to be capable of delivering more power than round about 100-105w stable.
Saw this when I played around with my 1060 and open vBios, raised power limit up to 150W, above 100w the FS-Score got more and more worse.

Same card on a clevo (P570 IIRC) went raising scores far above 100w.

 

Yeah I agree. But one last try in an hour or so lol.

 

Yeah, if that works it would really be a cool build

 

GREAT NEWS !!!!


So apparently , I noticed something that i did not noticed before.

1) The GPU fan is broken on this Bios (Not Spinning) , thus the reason it is shut down ( GPU got too hot )

2) I replaced the dual 330 Watts PSU for a single PSU 330 Watts (Previous PSU had PerfCap)

Edited Conclusion: 330 Watts is no problem for the M17X R4. RAM and CPU can bring better score as I have low specs on this machine. Running in PEG via External HDMI Out and I am using the nVidia Desktop 399.07. HWinfo for spinning the fan and have 3 Fans underneath for added cooling.

 

Nice work!

I guess the final question is going to be, can you get it working through eDP on the built in panel.

 

Nice! This is good!
If you get good 2133/1866 RAM and a 3920XM (total about $300) you could likely boost that up by 2K-3K (hopefully) but you might actually be power limited
Edit, can you run a few games?
Edit Numero Dos: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11556382 1070 at stock speeds in a P7xxDM2-G
Likely, you'll be able to beat it if you can get a better CPU

 

I'm not sure , maybe different bios will allow that to happen. I don't plan on getting a bios flasher anytime soon lol. But you never know , I might get bored and get itchy fingers. I might be looking into retrofiting an 18.4" 4K LCD via HDMI out (in the future). They have those on Ebay ... lol

I have to sell most of my parts laying around the house first...

 

What parts? May be interested
Edit: I'll bring this up again, but it likely isn't outputting to internal display because its a Zotac MXM built for external display, so you'll likely have to find a way to enable eDP output

 

I am thinking that the bios would have to come from laptop that has a gtx 1080 , similar to the Zotac.

 

Likely a Max-Q version as well

 

have u tried clevo's vb?? maybe can light up internal display

 

I don't have an external bios flasher as that is the only way to flash these Pascal MXM card

 

The GTX 1070 from Gecube (new and quality one, not the bad one) would likely curvestomp the nerfed GTX 1080 in any way shape or form.

 

Wow, good progress

 

I had a feeling the OG M17xR4 should run this card.

 

Possible to get this GTX 1080 running without winbugs 10 and optimus?

 

Likely not, even the 1070 needs a fully uefi environment. It seems to work in PEG mode but only via hdmi, likely need the msi vbios for internal display.

 

What is winbugs 10?

As for PEG , it’s probably possible if it has a VBIOS from a gtx 1080, from a laptop.

I would need an external bios flasher , anyone got one for me to borrow ? Lol ... I don’t want to spend $50 for a bios flasher.

 

And I actually succeeded in booting a windows 7 in pure UEFI environment, and I installed the drivers but ended up with error code 12
burst into tears :'(

 

I can give it a try for Windows 7 OS tonight .

 

winbugs 10 = windows 10.... People on chinese forums are directly calling it bug 10 instead of win10, for the obvious reasons

And no, if you don't have a eeprom programmer, I'd advice against trying. the EEPROM chip of pascal cards uses 1.8V

 

I know its off topic but I want your w701ds lol

 

Was the 1080 pulled form this unit?
ZBOX-EN1080K-U
https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-EN1080K-Liquid-Cooled-i7-7700-ZBOX-EN1080K-U/dp/B06XVSNFRB?th=1

Then you replaced the GPU with a WX7100? Did that require any modding? Most of the reason I discarded this method was mainly because of the dead box after the fact. I wonder if its possible to overclock the CPU at all in that machine, or even mod it to run 8700/k. The zbox would make for a good plex

If you get the chance, would you be able to test again in the AW17 R1? This time with the single 330w PSU + HDMI out? If it has the same behavior R4, It would then stand to reason that the MSI vBIOS would be needed just as it is for the zotac 1070. If that works then its also just as likely you will not have fan control. I believe Striker1234 just cut the control wire and runs his fan full speed.

Thanks for taking up the challenge even after giving up @Rengsey R. H. Jr. lol Gives me hope that my dead AW17 R1 can rise from the ashes in the future. Cant thank you enough, its basically the last and only possible 1080 to run as Eeposauras already test others...

Are you able to determine what the TDP level is on your 1080? If there is any correlation to the zotac 1070 @ 115w vs the MSI 1070 @ 150w, I suspect the zotac 1080 may run 150w-160w instead of 200w

Just a few thoughts on my mind...

 

Yes, his was pulled from a Zotac. As well, they make a Z370 model anyways. If we can fix the 1080's bugs in this, it gives me a lot hope for all my machines

 

Well on that link there are two different kinds of 1080 units, the air unit could be a different kind of 1080. Unless they are both the same?

 

They should be, as there is only enough space for it

 

Well one is water cooled dual psu and the other is air cooled 1x 330w but the latter comes with 7700hq vs i7 7700

 

yeh , the one I have uses dual 180 Watts PSU Liquid cooled and i7-7700

 

So I was monitoring the power usage during the 3DMARK11 benchmark , max wattage was 205 Watts on the Kill-A-Watt. How do I find out what is the TDP of just the GTX 1080 ?

I did firestrike and my GPU score was over 20K while Physic score was super low due to my low CPU.

 

That is very promising, 45w cpu and 140w-150w the rest to the system I would wager.

 

Pretty much there is enough room for an extreme CPU and Overclocking. I have been just bench marking on and off to see if it random drop frames , but it seems to be stable. I tried bumping 100mhz core and memory also.

 

HDMI spec is usually tied to the motherboard, v1.4 tops out at 4K 30Hz as does the Ivy Bridge iGPU. Your only hope for 4K60 is a direct link from GPU to Displayport

 

What about this programmer ?

http://autoelectric.cn/EN/TL866_main.html

TL866II Plus

 

Seems to be avery good hw programmer(but I'm using a cheap version, so every other is better)

In the meantime, you can always try to flash the original vbioses from other vendors without an hw programmer. If they have a valid signature, you can reprogram by nvflash as usual.
Check on techpowerup gpu DB.
Take a try also on this bioses pack ( posted by MR.Fox on msi 16l1 forum), 1080GTX clevo and msi bios included, compatible with my gtx 1080 "wing version" without power connector.
And good luck!

 

@Rengsey: did you have to grind anything to fit the card in?

 

It's only good fro showing off TBH. I prefer carrying W701 much more

 

not to the frame, only thing you have to give up is the second HDD.
If you are using the original heatsink there's a little grinding needed
But if you get this guy it should be hassle free
https://www.ebay.com/itm/All-copper...rentrq:cdfb4c8c1650a9c9e163e412fffa7d6f|iid:1

same one as mine XD
you might also want to get some EEPROM clips from feebay

 

You can monitor it through HWINFO, 200W is low for a system with a 1080 lol
You should try and shuffle around some of those parts you have lying around

 

If you see my thread, you will see that there is no automatic FAN CONTROL on ZOTAC Cards, use HWINFO64 for that.
You MUST enable eDP on the card by modding the vbios, in my case, I just flash it with MSI 1070 and it gave me the eDP.

 

Try the MSI 1080 VBIOS no G-SYNC, it may work!
@Raidriar

 

I’m pretty much stuck right now because I don’t have an external flasher to flash the VBIOS.

 

Originally signed and unmodified vBIOS should be flashable normal way, without a Flasher. Did that on my 1060 when i reverted the unlocked vBIOS back to stock MSI.

 

That is true!

You don't need an external flasher!

Boot using your Alienware with HDMI
Use HW64 to set the GPU FAN ON,
Flash the MSI GTX1080.

@ Raidriar Suggested me to do that with the 1070 last year and works!

What do you think @Raidriar ?

 

Yes better chance to work with MSI 1080 vBIOS, but he cannot flash since he doesn't have external flasher

 

Why I did not needed the External Flasher for the Zotac 1070?

 

nvflash works?

 

Works with stock vBIOS according to them, at least its what I have gathered thus far.