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    M17XR2 Overclocking Guide

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by TheCodeBreaker, Apr 16, 2010.

  1. Silversaver

    Silversaver Notebook Guru

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    ah ic.... Ill give it a try when I get home
     
  2. Silversaver

    Silversaver Notebook Guru

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    Do you mean I can only use AMD GUP toll "while" I am running Furmark in 640X460 window? or after I run the Furmark stability test?

    thanks

    PS. No matter what value I set, it just freeze with black screen....

    Can you tell me how exactly I should do?
     
  3. stamatisx

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    Run a furmark benchmark on windowed mode at 640x480 and then open the AMD tool to set the clocks you want. just click to set the values for both cards
     
  4. TheCodeBreaker

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    Is that what you have to do to get higher clocks with the 5870s?
     
  5. stamatisx

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    i just do that so the clocks are at their max frequency. otherwise if I go straight to change the values it locks up. the same applies for riva tuner
     
  6. Silversaver

    Silversaver Notebook Guru

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    I guess it doesn't work for me. Even I just add +1 value it freeze. never mind.

    I think I did something wrong, but the ocing GPU just not working for my m17x r2.....
     
  7. Joebarchuck

    Joebarchuck Notebook Virtuoso

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    I am having issues with AMD GPU tools. It won't let me change the frequencies. Not sure what is wrong.
     
  8. rubyboy79

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    driver version? any driver version higher than 10.5 will not work with amd gpu tools. ull have to flash the vbios or use another method
     
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    That is why I am using the latest vbios from dell and the 10.8. I did not know about it not working after 10.5...
     
  10. TheCodeBreaker

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    On the same boat here :( Ive been flashing my video cards lately so i didnt notice it.

    Will try and find a work around or a different software to overclocking it.

    EDIT: You can also use rivatuner.
     
  11. Joebarchuck

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    I cannot find Joker's vBIOS OC guide for the 5870. He made one a few month ago and included the flash files. Anyone know where it went?
     
  12. TheCodeBreaker

    TheCodeBreaker 7H3 1337

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    Quoted by Mandrake on another forum.
    I dont think you need a different one for the 5870s, same thing applies.
     
  13. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Yea, It's the exact same process for the 5870's. Take it from me. And that guide is an excellent write up.
     
  14. Joebarchuck

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    Thanks...

    10 Char
     
  15. lordskorrkeeper

    lordskorrkeeper Notebook Enthusiast

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    resolved the issue. will post pictures of my performance boost in the benchmark thread later. thanks.
     
  16. lordskorrkeeper

    lordskorrkeeper Notebook Enthusiast

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    Quick question about SetFSB, will I have to set the values every time I restart my computer?
     
  17. Mechanized Menace

    Mechanized Menace Lost in the MYST

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    Yes unless you buy the shareware version for $5.
     
  18. Armin_Tanzarian

    Armin_Tanzarian Notebook Consultant

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    Does anyone have any specific OC info for the 820? I tried SetFSB and when I clicked "update" on the final setting change my system crashes.

    I have tried upping the voltage in the Bios to +150. Any other suggestions on where to start? I have SetFSB, Throttlestop, and all of the other programs mentioned in this thread. I looked through the guide but it really seems focused on the 9 series.

    Also, I am trying to OC my dual 4870's using the AMD GPU tool. Card #1 overclocks right away to 600/1000 with no trouble. Card #2 refuses to change. It is listed at 250/200 which seems way low to me. I tried the above trick of running FurMark and adjusting while that goes on, but no change. The second card seems unusually slow. I cannot change the voltage on the 2nd card either. The error message given is "SetClock Failed! - Please check device configuration""
     
  19. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    My guess is your using the wrong PLL. It has to be the AsusG73 PLL and in order to get access to that you need to use the paid version of Set FSB. I've overclocked the 520M, 540M, 720M, 920XM and 940XM via set FSB. Click "Asus G73 PLL" Get FSB, up the registers a few clicks and then SetFSB.
     
  20. Armin_Tanzarian

    Armin_Tanzarian Notebook Consultant

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    DR650SE - are you refering to my post? If so I have an M17X-R2. Or do you know that and I still need an Asus PLL?
     
  21. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    ;) Lol I can understand the misunderunderstanding, I know that thats why your in this thread/Forum/sig. Both systems use the same PLL. You still need it. Give it a shot and let me know if it works.

    EDIT: Let me see if I can dig up a post where I outlined the process....FOUND IT.


    Try this, Use the Asus G73 PLL, then hit Get FSB, use the arrows to adjust the MHz, then click Set FSB. Everything is highlighted below


    Click Asus G73 PLL (Bottom of list), Click Get FSB
    [​IMG]


    Overclocked After SetFSB clicked
    [​IMG]


    Move up two at a time till you crash it, and you can find the limits, run CPU benches like wprime, and superpi to test for stability. Monitor Temps, and such
     
  22. TheCodeBreaker

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    Armin_Tanzarian what DR said about the overclocking is correct. The m17x has the same pll as the g73, and he explained it perfectly.

    About the cards, there seems to be a problem with AMD GPU tool so use rivatuner ;) works like a charm, or maybe flashing the cards?
     
  23. Armin_Tanzarian

    Armin_Tanzarian Notebook Consultant

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    Working on the OC now, thanks guys!

    I'm trying Rivatuner but it doesn't seem very polished. There is not an obvious spot to set your OC settings.
     
  24. Armin_Tanzarian

    Armin_Tanzarian Notebook Consultant

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    Also, I realize it entirely depends on the specific chip, but do you have any idea roughly where a top end should be for the 820? It started at 139, and your screen shot shows 155...is that close to the top, or do you think 200, etc?
     
  25. ShimmerArc

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    Anyone tried OC-ing their 740 QM? Just wondering if the performance boost is worth the temp increase.
     
  26. Armin_Tanzarian

    Armin_Tanzarian Notebook Consultant

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    DR650SE & CodeBreaker - Thanks for the help. I am able to OC my processor. The video cards are still not doable but the cpu has netted me some extra power.
     
  27. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Aas far as the top overclock, the 139, is just a number for SetFSB. What really matters is your bus speed. That will probably top out around 150. I would move it up, click SetFSB, and continue doing that till you BSOD, then you can start working backward from there to find your highest stable OC.
     
  28. TheCodeBreaker

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    from the wiki to help with the gpu overclocking. For some weird reason the cards didnt OC the other day, but i went around that by flashing them, and the OS was acting kinda funny, it didnt run vantage either :/
     
  29. Armin_Tanzarian

    Armin_Tanzarian Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks Code, that fixed the OC on my video cards. Do they hold the new speeds after reboot or do they require setting each time?

    Thanks
     
  30. sazistas

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    Hello,
    is it possible to overclock my i7 620m processor with setfsb tool? Because every time I open the setfsb in my m17x and try set a setting always freeze

    thanks
     
  31. TheCodeBreaker

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    You need to reapply them every time. If you want it to stick to an OC just flash them ;)

    for everyday I use this, been stable so far

    [​IMG]


    It can only work if you have a liscence key. But you can use the same PLL and adjust the registers manually
     
  32. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    Yea, as TheCodeBreaker said, you need to purchase a key from Abo, the SetFSB creator. Once you get the key your a member for life, so when you reinstall it and need a new key, just email him and he will get you another free of charge. To use SetFSB, just follow the directions posted here
     
  33. sazistas

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    ok, I send him the money and gave me the key for SetFSB.
    Now I tried to overclock already, its stable at 169 ~ 3900mhz.
    But when I run a benchmark processor test with sisoft sandra, I get lower results than the stock :eek:
    whats going on?


    also anyone know if its possible to disable the intel speedstep and lock the multiplier at highest value?
     
  34. TheCodeBreaker

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    Try lowering the clock on that. If that doesnt work then it is probably throttling, so check if throttlestop will work (it should work with 620m)

    You can disable turbo mode but not lock it on the highest multiplier
     
  35. murck

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    Hi!

    Awaiting my own m17x-r2 and was curious if every i5/i7 can be clocked up just abit maybe. And while I'm here can it be that one can insert a i7 even thou I bought with i5 and how far up can I go later when I feel the need for a upgrade.

    Sorry if I went abit offtopic :)

    Regards Murck

    P.S Waiting is the worst thing ever.
     
  36. reborn2003

    reborn2003 THE CHIEF!

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    Howdies cheifs.

    Yeh you can OC the i5 or i7 CPUs in the M17x using setFsb.

    For future upgrades you can get the Core i7 940XM as your max CPU. oles.
    You could also get the i7 920XM both are available on ebay and pretty good value. 920XM is cheaper and better value atm.

    Yep I sure hate waiting.

    Cheers. :)
     
  37. murck

    murck Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the quick answer :)

    How much of a physical mod do I have to make to cooling etc to not have to worry to much? I have no trouble doing a few cooling mods just want to know if there is anything else I need to order ;)
     
  38. betc

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    i didnt change the setup when i did my 720QM > 920XM upgrade. and i used the cheap and nasty thremal paste. it gets over 80c under full load running at stock. will try again tonight to get the exact temps its hits..

    i am trying to find somewhere to buy Shin Entsu paste, then i will pop the top and try again.. hopefully i can get better contact with the CPU/Heatsink so i can overclock it some
     
  39. reborn2003

    reborn2003 THE CHIEF!

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    No need for any cooling or heatsink mods. You just need to make sure you get some thermal paste. Some Shin Etsu or AS5 or Tuniq TX-4 and use it on the CPU die when you install it.

    Cheers. :)
     
  40. reborn2003

    reborn2003 THE CHIEF!

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    I was looking for paste too and just bought 7 sticks off ebay last week.

    Cheers. :)
     
  41. betc

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    i cant find anyone that sells Shin Entsu in the UK... one mob does but have no stock hehe

    ah well, i will keep looking. does anyone know?
     
  42. reborn2003

    reborn2003 THE CHIEF!

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    Oh yeh I had to order mine from the US. They sell absolutely nothing on our local Ebay sites here lol. Down under that is. Pretty useless for specific purchases. Everything seems to be in the US or china. So I just ordered from overseas. Just have to double check the shipping costs. Free is always nice LOL. ;) :D

    Cheers. :)
     
  43. betc

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    cheers mate, im from aus as well hehe. always chiina orders...
    will grab some from the US dude
     
  44. reborn2003

    reborn2003 THE CHIEF!

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    Hey chiefs. No worries.

    Oh your down under too koolos oles. High 5 lol. ;) :D

    Shin-Etsu 1g Thermal Compound Syringes - Free UK P & P - eBay Thermal Compounds, Fans Heatsinks, PC Components, Computing. (end time 27-Oct-10 01:59:47 AEDST)

    shin etsu, Computers, Collectables, Stamps items at low prices on eBay.com.au

    I bought the above link last week. I have them in my drawer now. Too lazy to do them LOL. I'm also kinda waiting for my TX-4 paste to arrive.

    I had to buy it from here though Tuniq TX-4 High Performance Thermal Grease - 3.0g - FrozenCPU.com since nothing on ebay and the one I found doesn't do international shipping the buggers lol.

    Also I must say these shin etsu tubes are like so stingy lol ehahaha hardy any in a tube LOL. 1 Tube = like 1 i7 CPU die coverage LOL. :p ;) :D

    Cheers. :)
     
  45. betc

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    far out that is damn good to know mate. i will have to buy a few then.

    whats the TX-4 used for?

    and i so cant be bothered doing the whole repaste thang.. gotta get motivated..
     
  46. reborn2003

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    Tuniq TX-4 is just another thermal paste alternative. Its supposed to be even better than shin etsu and AS5. So I will be giving it a go when it arrives sometime this or next week. It should lower my temps even more lol. ;) :D

    Cheers. :)
     
  47. Aedaric

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    Out of curiosity, I've been getting BSOD's anytime I've tried to load GPUTool or AMD GPU Clock Tool. I'm using the 10.10 version of Dell drivers, the latest from them available, but I don't know what the issue is. I've attached the log for GPUTool but the AMD GPU Tool didn't provide me with one.

    Any ideas?
     

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  48. TurbodTalon

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    Try starting FurMark in the background before opening your OC tool. This way both GPUs are fired up and running full 3D clocks. If I'm not mistaken, during normal non-gaming operations the 2nd card is put to sleep. Thus, when the the OC tool sees CrossFire, but can't actually find the other card, it doesn't know what to do.
     
  49. Aedaric

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    Well, I installed the 10.11 drivers and the AMD Tool starts up now as well as GPUTool, GPUTool seems outdated and unused so I will stick to the AMD Tool. That said, even without overclocking my cards I've noticed odd behavior and temperatures that are causing the card to down-clock while being used in games I play as well as FurMark.
     
  50. Plisken

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    So I have 2 5870's in my M17xR2. Im trying to overclock the cards in AMD GPU clock tool but the problem I am having is that I cant overclock the 2nd card.

    At first I thought overclocking the main card would automatically overclock the 2nd one but it didnt. Then I tried doing it individually and it gave me an error saying clock failed check device configuration.

    Other problem is most of the time AMD GPU clock tool doesnt even show the 2nd card. I have to keep closing and re-opening the program until it does. Does this happen with anyone else?
     
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