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    M17x R1 & R2 - COD:Black Ops Discussion

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Harryboiyeye, Nov 7, 2010.

  1. V3_Shae

    V3_Shae Notebook Consultant

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    What do you need cpu monitoring for? As long as you did a prime95 stress test and it didnt overheat or have an error, you are all set for any overclock.
     
  2. cslaptop

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    sorry, i meant gpu monitoring. See it was pretty useful when it comes to that I saw my two 260s did not work at the same time by figuring out their instant temps, freqs, and usage. I guess that was just one of the things i want to do.
     
  3. itzALTA

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    Hi guys,

    Anyone knows the best settings in CCC to play Black OPS?

    Im getting 45 dps - 60dps.

    XF 4870
    720QM

    Res : 1920 x 1200
    AA: 2x
    Graphics : High

    CCC : 10.11, 8.791
    Profile : CAP2
    3D settings : MAX Quality (Do I even need to do this?)
    Multi GPU/CPU enabled.

    Should I expect higher FPS? or is this fine?

    Any help is appreciated :)
     
  4. Harryboiyeye

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    I'd say that is fine for how Black Ops was coded (Terrible) :/ Does any one know if BO supports 7.1 Surround sound?
     
  5. Necrotopsy

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    itzALTA

    the only things that matter in BO settings as far as the graphics go are:

    resolution
    Graphics quality
    Shadows

    other then that you should be using CCC to control the graphics.

    don't ust the Adaptive multi-sample AA. it makes the game look weird as hell. and super-saple AA will drop your FPS down to crap.

    here are the settings i use to get 91-96 fps consistently:

    AA - 4x
    Anisotropic Filtering: 4x
    Catalyst A.I. - Advanced
    Mipmap Detail - Quality
    Wait for vertical - ALWAYS OFF (very important)
    AA Mode - Multi-Sample
    OpenGL - Triple Buffering (enabled)
    CrossfireX Enabled
    1920x1200 Resolution
    Fullscreen - Yes
    Widescreen - 16:10
    Graphics (in game setting) - normal (medium?)


    -----------------------

    pretty much as long as nothing in CCC says "application managed" you will do A WHOLE LOT BETTER PERFORMANCE
    BO screwed up with their programming when it came to controlling the GPU(s).

    just my $0.02
     
  6. Sir_Gawain

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    Why have the Vertical off? My image seems so much smoother with it on....BUT, if I enable force vertical in my Nvidia settings I get constant game freezes.
     
  7. Necrotopsy

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    oh, and YES it supports 7.1

    just adjust the settings IN-GAME under AUDIO
     
  8. Necrotopsy

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    if you have Vertical ON you will never get better then 60-61 fps because that's the rate that the screen refreshes.
    forcing vertical refresh MAKES the fps = that of the screen refresh rate, and since the screen refreshes at 60 hrz ( = 60 fps) the game CANNOT get better fps then that, only worse.
    my friend has a 120 hz monitor and he uses Vsync. but that's equivalent of 120 fps so it always looks awesome on his screen lulz.
    to be honest 60 fps is faster then your eye can capture anyway, so you wont tell (much if any) difference between 60 or 90 fps.
    Personally anything higher then (consistent) 45 fps looks smooth to me. maybe I'm just weird.

    thought i should mention that even if you are getting better then 90 fps in BO it wont look any better. 90 is max fps the game ACTUALLY generates. this is the same in MW2.

    so
    300 fps will still look like 90 fps.
     
  9. Sir_Gawain

    Sir_Gawain Notebook Consultant

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    Got ya, I hadnt run Fraps since enabling the vertical, but your right, maxed it out at 60 (not that u needed me to check lol).
     
  10. V3_Shae

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    Anyone else have horrid map loading times? It takes 1-2 mins for every map to load, except Nuketown, which takes about 45 seconds. In any case, loading times that long for such small maps is unacceptable. Bad Company 2 maps, which are a lot, and I mean A LOT, larger, only take 15-20 seconds to load.
     
  11. Necrotopsy

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    the the stupid console the game uses. its coded HORRIBLE. the programmers should be SHOT IN THE HEAD and then dumped into a pool of acid, and their family's forced to have an open casket funerals.

    its also partly responsible that it has to go over the server checks a million times. ever time the game freezes for a couple of seconds? that's the game communicating with the server.

    some things help though. in steam, right click on BO, go to properties, and then go to "verify cache integrity".

    if you ever want to see what the game is doing just press shift + ~

    that opens up the console window, and you can see the (horrible blackened mess of) guts of the program.

    also i foundout the max FPS can be changed.

    default is 85 fps. so no matter what fraps or whatever says its never going above 85 fps.

    but i changed mine to 120, and now fraps says I'm getting a steady 125 fps!
    you go to the consol and type in:
    cg_maxfps 120
    and press enter (you cant be in game. must be main menu)
    that might not be the exact command but once you type in cg_ it will show you all the available commands.

    there is also
    cl_maxpackets

    set that to something like 65. as close to 100 as ur internet can handle. helps a crap ton with lagg.

    also your internet speed/connection/ping makes a BIG DEAL to BO. slower internet or bad connections will freeze your game. a lot.

    like at home, i freeze quite often. at college (a 500 mb/s connection) i never freeze. not once. and i've played their a crap ton. (that's where i am now).
     
  12. cslaptop

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    Despite the good information you provided, I think you are misinterpreting the real world with too much of L4D...
     
  13. Harryboiyeye

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    This game doesn't support 7.1 Surround at all >.< Pshhh
     
  14. V3_Shae

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    It supports 5.1, which works decent with a 7.1 system.
     
  15. Harryboiyeye

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    Yea it works decent. But if you set it to 7.1 then the voice overs and reloading sounds are played twice very closely. I mean, set my Razer Megalodon to 7.1 mode. I just have to use the 2.0 mode for 5.1 anyway. :)
     
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    Now, half the time I launch Black Ops, my fps on the main menu is 30, and in server browser it is 15, and in game it is 5. I'm serious. No, no stealth mode. Yes, I'm all plugged in. And now, I can only find 73 servers. Yea, that's right, 73 OUT OF 17000. Black Ops has always just been a minor disappointment, I always thought Treyarch would fix it. Now, however, I have absolutely no faith that the folks down at Treyarch will get off their lazy asses (pardon), and fix this.... this..... I don't even know what to call it, because as it stands for me, it's not a game. No game, no program, no anything has ever pissed me off this much. How can they release something so obviously broken, and then just sit on their hands looking around at the carnage and muttering to each other "We f-ed up". In fact, the most maddening thing about this whole situation is the absolute LACK OF COMMUNICATION. There's no "We know it's screwed up, it's because ____ is screwing with ____, causing it to _____". All there is is one guy's Twitter on which he says something along the lines of "There's a problem". They have given NO INDICATION of what the problem is, whether or not they know about all the issues, whether or not it can be fixed, or whether or not it WILL be fixed. /rant
     
  17. V3_Shae

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    FRAPS is now refusing to put a framerate counter in. I hope that the patch they promised ( Call of Duty: Black Ops) will come soon and actually DOES SOMETHING.
     
  18. Bloodydream

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    Don't forget about these guys, they work just as they did in all previous COD versions. Try increasing you maxfps in small increments until you lag the back it off a bit. :)

    Do this In Game!

    Open tide key and copy/paste the following. Do them each separately.

    \cg_drawFPS 1
    \cl_maxpackets 100
    \com_maxfps 300
    seta cl_maxpackets "40"
    \cg_fov 80
    seta rate "25000"

    Don't forget to update your SLI profiles if you haven't alread done so.
     
  19. V3_Shae

    V3_Shae Notebook Consultant

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    Also, my console won't open. Yeah, so now I have no way to measure fps...
     
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    Did you hit F12 too many times? I've done that before.
     
  21. avillabon

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    Any chance they'll be adding a party system like in MW2? Whenever I play with friends we rarely play in the same team.

    Alex
     
  22. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    Guys im an xps 1730 user, but maybe this can help you out as well.

    Install 265.90 drivers with modded inf from laptopvideo2go for those nvidia owners.

    After that, go into steam\steamapps\commons\call of duty black ops\players and remove config_mp file.

    As soon as you boot the game, set the game like this:

    Screen res of your choiche
    4x AA
    Vsync OFF
    Anisotropy at max
    Crank up everything else to max settings available

    Try to run the game now. If it stutters due to sound, use ingame command /snd_restart.

    With these settings (1200p as screen res) and this driver set i almost got my performance back with no lags or stuttering, with an awesome fps while playing.
     
  23. V3_Shae

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    Sadly, I'm an ATI user. Not sad because it's ATI, I love ATI, but sad because the fix is only for nVidia. /oddly worded
     
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    Applied Frap, so I can report back. Everything maxed, normal FPS around 50, when sprinting in snow/large map, it sometimes drop down to 30ish.

    Don't know how some people get as high as 80-90 all the time maxed...It looks like the laptop is beaten to death trying to cool it down, even after i set U3 pad at maximum speed =(
     
  25. EntityX

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    I just updated to 10.12 and with everything maxed (except AA at 4x) I rarely get any drops below 60fps with vsync on
     
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    Will you post a link to where you got the driver? Much thanks.
     
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    EntityX Notebook Evangelist

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    thanks! I'm too lazy to uninstall the current driver so ill just overwrite it ;p
     
  29. EntityX

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    It's bundled with driver 8.801 which was an upgrade for me...
     
  30. cslaptop

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    yes i see, so i quickly edited the post lol

    am running BO right now to test it =D
     
  31. frozenarcticguy

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    New patches out, trying it out now
     
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    performance is slightly better for me but no real difference.
    in the patch-log it says, that they fixed the freezes in the menu but i still got them everytime! this is so annoying.

    mfg
     
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    Yeah I'm getting freezes in the menu too but everything else seems to run better
     
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    While in game, I saw people talk about crappy performance of this game running on their computers. I didn't ask if they have AW, but I believe this issue exists in many other systems.

    Other than the game running smoothly most of the time, I do frequently experience spikes or a sudden and real quick freeze when running, combating, and killing =p This became a real big issue now as i practice in the game and need to do many quick moves. Sometimes the glitches and spikes simply get me killed, which is very annoying. Maybe it has something to do with the 16xAA, but it's really hard not to run on max settings after you know the system is capable of it lol. On my "defective" R1, I set everything to minimum except for the resolution, it freezes like crazy all the time, so I quit playing CoD series for a long time before i got my R2 replacement.
     
  35. V3_Shae

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    I always get only 40-44 servers with 10000+ in parentheses. The second number seems right, with only not empty and not hardcore selected, out of a total of 17k + servers. How come only 40-44 ever show up? It's really annoying....
     
  36. Necrotopsy

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    i'm pretty sure the game starts remembering where you play most often, and selects servers near that ping. like i seem to only get servers from Dallas and Chicago (i live in Michigan), but when i first got the game it shows hundreds of servers.

    the path doesn't seem to have changed anything at all for me at least. still get 120 fps consistently (because i raised the max fps). but i dont use crazy settings. would rather have the game never freeze, and always high fps then good graphics, but that's just me. i use 1920x1200 res, but other then that everything is minimum.

    on a side note, why would anyone play non-hardcore, other then nuketown tdm to raise levels? non-hardcore is stupid and boring. oh let me shoot you in the face 5 times, and you just stab me and i die.

    yeah not for me.
     
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    Hardcore mode is a bit 'sneaky-sneaky' for me. I like the runnin' guns. I just wish each prestige wasn't exactly the same as the last. You unlock some new camo or face paint? THAT is the part that's not for me.
     
  38. CptXabaras

    CptXabaras Overclocked, Overvolted, Liquid Cooled

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    i second the non-hardocore thing..

    i didn't measure the FPS yet, but the game play really well for me. Should i use Fraps for FPS count?

    How do you rise the fps limit?
     
  39. Necrotopsy

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    you have to enter the consol by pressing ~
    then you type in
    cg_set_maxfps (or something close to that. it will give you a list of options, look for the one that says maxfps or framerate)
    default its set to 85 so then just change it by typing whatever you want after that so mine for 125 fps limit:
    cg_set_maxfps 125

    and then press enter. done!
     
  40. V3_Shae

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    But is there a way to force it to show all servers? I don't like having to pick from 40-44 servers, because there is absolutely no way i can get marathon pro! No server that it picks runs CTF constantly. Normally, I wouldn't care (I hate CTF). But I need it for marathon pro every prestige! Also, it picks around 20 with below 100 ping, and the others are 100 - 200, so I don't think that's it.

    EDIT: And now it's crashing to desktop. Yippee.
     
  41. Necrotopsy

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    under filters you could always have it show game mode CTF only ?
     
  42. V3_Shae

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    Then I get 1 server with 2 people in it.
     
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    Both modes have its own good imo. Knifing in the non-hc is really exciting, and i couldn't agree with that shoot 5 times being knifed comment: shoot him in the head, it's the same as HC and he'll never get to you before he dies.

    HC on the other hand, i think, is closer to reality, and it strongly limit the use of melee. I've recently been through couple servers where you have to crouch all the time, except when being attacked, and no running. That's some silent but intense rule :D

    BTW, Marathon Pro is always the 1st challenge i'm trying to get. I had to use 25 levels of time to get the challenge as CTF in HC mode is pretty hard, but it's worth it. Running unlimitedly to: 1.Melee millions in nonHC; 2.CTF quicker than ever and see everyone drops their chin; 3.Become a ghost in HC with a AK74 or sth. These make you feel good, and dizzy.
     
  44. frozenarcticguy

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    Ok so I reformatted my laptop and went to reinstall Black Ops and BC2 on Steam. BC2 installed and is performing great. When Black Ops is done downloading and I go to install. The little box appears as if it's going to install but then it goes away and nothing happens. I've redown loaded but the same thing. Any ideas? Also I don't know if it makes a difference but I usually try to down load things using 32bit IE but I noticed this time I used 64 IE for down loading Steam, think that would make a difference?
     
  45. V3_Shae

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    I am done with Treyarch's crap. I am uninstalling this game on Christmas if it is still unplayable. I am never again purchasing a game developed by Treyarch, and I suggest others join this great purge, so we can show Treyarch that we, as PC gamers, will not stand for this.
     
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    screw that. i LOVE this game and it runs perfect for me.
     
  47. frozenarcticguy

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    Weird, it started running again but I just bought BC2 Vietnam so Black Ops is now deleted, buh bye!
     
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    I've had no problems at all with BO. =/ CAP fixed some mild framerate stutter
     
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    Hey guys? Am I the only one getting a constant 60-91FPS on Cod, with everything maxed out and X16 AA?

    I think its quite normal XD
     
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    Way to resurrect a thread! Haha.
     
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