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    M17x R2 7970m CrossfireX Ultimate Installation and Tweaking Guide

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by sangemaru, Jun 7, 2013.

  1. flingin

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    [​IMG]

    Power jacks from China arrived !

    Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
     
  2. sangemaru

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    Keep them cool. Undervolt if you have to, no need to OC these beasts, set custom fan profile in HwInfo64 with decent fan speeds to keep them even cooler. Use headphones.
     
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    Not tested this more than a few times but:
    When T-stop was running problem was biggest. (high effect on CPU)
    Thing is, when running my old 240 i can run games with no T-stop. I had only one shutdown during game with the old 240 today and that was when the computer also was occupied doing installation. Other than that i could play for 1 hour straight without GPU temps hitting 60. CPU hitting low 70's.
    The 330 halts every time i try starting a game or benching. I cant even start playing, it stops as soon as everything starts operating at the same time. Temps dont even have time to raise.


    Will try some more tests on both PSU's tomorrow.
    Measured temps during game is very low.
     
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    I see. That sucks. If it does this even with Crossfire disabled, that's not normal. I hope you can get it sorted.
     
  5. flingin

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    Anything going on bro ?
     
  6. AlienHack

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    Hey i am back after 1 week.

    its very talkative in here! i am glad!! :thumbsup:

    SO nospheratu was suposed to do a psu mod guide with pics and all!!! :rolleyes:


    Also, i am still waiting from you guys to do an 1 card (7970m) 3d mark 11 bench , with 950gpu 1150 mem and 24x multies...

    i want to check why i get a lower gpu score than nospheratu
     
  7. flingin

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    well, i am doing my mod in 2 hrs from now....muahahaha
     
  8. Nospheratu

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    Uploading pics as I'm typing this. Guide should be up in 30 minutes hopefully.

    edit: An hour later... its up! :D
     
  9. Trome71

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    Amazing. Great job Nospheratu.
    Ive already read it :D
    I might look into this too if i have to remod my psu.

    R1 socket the same?
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-DC-POWE...=Laptop_Adapters_Chargers&hash=item5d42b797bb

    The other one has shipping fee of 28 usd, and that makes me have to pay tax for it due to transport costs.
    Guess i can use the cable and plug on my old old 240. (ive had 2 off them, one of them is the chip donor, the other one is backup psu)
     
  10. Nospheratu

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    Thanks for the kind words @trome71 :)

    The reason I chose that specific one was cos I came across another user who purchased it and mentioned that it matched the markings of his connector on his motherboard. It seems to be an original connector as its manufactured by Foxconn.

    The one you linked to doesn't look very good honestly. Have a look at the one I bought again. I just checked and the seller also has options under the Shipping and Payments tab for Free International Shipping as well as Standard International Shipping to Norway for 3.99 USD.
     
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    True. I got 2 of them just in case. They are oryginal sockets for R2 mobo with Foxconn branding on them

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  12. Trome71

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    Of course. Its done. 2 ordered.
     
  13. AlienHack

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    that is a super mod presentation!! thank you!!
     
  14. AlienHack

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    Can someone please do a bench with justone card? or with Crossfire disabled/? 950gpu 1150 mem 24x multies
     
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    Thanks for the compliment AlienHack :)

    Here's the single card run with your settings, TDP/TDC at 90/82 and 13.11 beta1
     
  16. AlienHack

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    heres mine...

    [​IMG]

    ok i have an issue... even in one card (not the Eng. sample one, the other) , i have low gpu score.

    There is nothing else i can think of except bios..
     
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    Yeah, if you're running the same XM settings and drivers it could very well be the vBIOS. Thats around a 300 point loss on GPU score. Your physics score is awesome though.

    It's not gonna be easy trying to find another vBIOS to see if your theory is right and we know you're tried all options already but to be perfectly honest, this doesn't matter. Its all about the games really. If you are enjoying your games with smooth framerates, 3Dmark11 results are pointless.

    If I was seriously chasing numbers I would have pushed my cards harder to find their limits. All that matters is I'm able to game with high detail settings on a laptop, I don't want to risk that trying to get a massive score and damage my cards... and not be able to do what I bought the cards for in the first place... game ;)
     
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    ok so because i know that in the past u used my bios and it worked ok for you, is there a chance to persuade you to do a 1 card vbios update and bench? just your 1st one.

    you can use the 1.025V one you made for me... :rolleyes:

    i want to be sure that its the bios. because if its not then i will try to find other reasons . i dont like having my cards not running at the numbers they can..

    ALso , can anyone else try a one card becnh? maybe nospheratus m17 is faster than ours...
     
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    Ok i just instaled and benched the new 13.11 Beta 7 with one card
    now i am on par with Nospheratu... but he said he benched with 13.11 Beta 1??
    [​IMG]
     
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    amazing guide!
    i would have made a comment on that forum but for some reason my account is inactive or something.
    again nice clean mod
    i will upgrade my old 150->240w mod soon
     
  21. flingin

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    Bad news, i am drunk, and i cannot think clearly, and i need your help to complete this, what connect to what ?

    [​IMG]

    yolo

    Edit: ok got it, just to drunk to think plus damn it shaky hands
     
  22. sangemaru

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    @Alienhack and Nospheratu: Those are some awesome scores.
    @Flingin: GJ bro, enjoy :D Let's see some benches and OC's.
     
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    Can't run any 3Dmark....

    3Dmark 11 - GUI stopped working....
    3dMark - Error code 15....

    Lol.....

    Seems like sys info corruption or i dunno, 3dmark begins to be stupidly complicated...


    Edit:

    Reinstalled 3DMark11 + Some tweaks

    GPU Stock

    [​IMG]

    Small OC 900/1200 @0,975V

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7403188

    I am afraid to do more benches with the wires hanging naked, i have to put the thing into a small box as i do not want to bend any of those wires and put unnececary strain on the jack pins.

    :D
     
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    Here is one single card bench from me just stopping crossfire.
    Cant look at my CPU score, didnt stop all programs and I dont use Tstop at all for this now. I at least want to check my PSU first, running on the old 240 now.

    AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-940 Processor,Alienware

    I cant do a full 3dmark test with dual cards due to the power. It halts always during combined test.
    But just the graphics are here:

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7403934

    So you see you have way above my scores most all of the time :)

    Flingin, you see that it is the same test?
     
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    @ Trome71, AlienHacks score was run with 900/1150 clocks on his GPU. Your result is still quite good for stock.

    I suggest dropping your voltage on both cards to 0.975V and running the GPU's and XM at stock when using the 240W. Read sangemaru's guide on the first post, it covers everything for optimising this setup.
     
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    Was thinking about it, and first found that the stock voltage works for me as long as i dont OC the CPU and dont run 3Dmark.
    The 017_0950 doesnt allow me to tweak the clocks in catalyst, but then again, im not OC'ing the cards before i've fixed the PSU so why not UV the cards?

    Its done. :)
     
  27. flingin

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    Oh crap. Yes. I will correct that later. But the guy score is just 700 higher, like 13700. Cheers!

    Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
     
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    Seems our cards behave about the same.

    Now with 0950 voltage im going slightly lower, about 200 down for x-fire.
     
  29. sangemaru

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    Nice nice nice :D That almost 11000 score.
     
  30. AlienHack

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    with what drivers are these. ? 13.11 beta1 or the latest beta7?
     
  31. Nospheratu

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    That looks like beta1 from the driver version.

    I'll try to run your vBIOS today to see if it makes a difference. I'll post the results here when done.
     
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    Please can anyone tell me why second card even though it is not rendering anything, utilization is at 99% and clocks at 3D settings.

    ??

    [​IMG]
     
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    You installed the new beta7/beta8 and forgot to disable ULPS :D
     
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    Which beta are you using ATM ?

    I may reinstall and disable ULPS

    Good too see you around :)....all the time...thanks !
     
  35. Nospheratu

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    Lol thank NBR's email notifications and the fact that I'm finishing up some work related stuff :p

    I'm still on the beta1's, haven't had the chance to upgrade just yet.
     
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    Yup, email notification is very useful.

    Oh and, i bought Power and Energy monitor, Highest reading so far 275Watts :)
     
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    before or after psu?
     
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    Meaning AC or DC measured power. (outlet or transformed)
     
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    go in registry as nospheratu said and disable ULPS... if we leave it on it makes a mess , the second cards clocks stuck, you get BSOD when alt-tabing in Crysis 3 etc..

    Also BEFORE desabling ULPS install 13,11 beta 7 , it gives even more speed in games and 3dmark scores!!

    flingin can you disable crossfire and do a 3d mark 11 run (with one card) at 950gpu and 1150 mem?? with 13.11 beta 7 or beta 1 whatever (just mention which driver you used)

    i want to see if my card scores lower OR if nospheratus score higher...



    PS. in relevant news, i have AMD - ATI fever... :p

    i sold my whole desktop, i5 760 with nvidia 680 gtx
    and in its place i bought an AMD 8350 (8 core ate 4Ghz i will oc to 5Ghz) and 2 7970s to run in crossfire... i really want to see what the score of them will be in 3dmark 11 !!! 25.000 anyone???
    AMD Radeon HD 7970 video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. RAMPAGE IV EXTREME
     
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    bro, i can go 920/1150 because on 950 gpu i get screen freeze at 0.975v
    13.11 v1

    also, why beta 7 ? why not beta 8 ?
    AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-950 Processor,Alienware 014M8C
     
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    ok that shows alt for me THANK you!!

    so with driver 13.11 v1 and 940gpu 1150 mem 24x multies ONE CARD we get the same results almost ,

    you have------- 6835 total---------6864 gpu score
    i have -----------6888 total---------6937 gpu score

    the slight difference is from the 920 vs 940 gpu speed.

    SO HOW DOES nospheratu get:
    7044 total and --------- 7226 gpu score ??? :eek:


    AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-950 Processor,Alienware



    i didnt know there is a beta 8!!! even more fps gains?? wha the heck!! in 2 months with 7vrsions of beta drivers released ATI has gained more than 50% fps gains in Crossfire and 7970s
     
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    I just installed 13.11 v8 and got P9460 in 3dmark 11. So much worse comparing to 13.11 v1

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    what??? :eek:
    did you go and disable ULPS again??? everytime you install new divers you have to redesable it...

    i installed beta 7 yesterday and i had immediately BSOD in alt tabing, so i disabled ULPS...
    aso after disabling ULPS and rebooting running MSI AFTERBURNER with the -xcl command and rebooting again makes overdrive available to CCC and gives extra stability for me...
     
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    Let me try...i did disabled it but i did not restarted my laptop, updates in 5 mins

    EDIT:

    OK

    OLD 13.11 v1 900/1200

    [​IMG]

    NEW 13.11 v8 900/1200

    [​IMG]

    Bloody ULPS :)
     
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    :) i told you so , ULPS is a pack of trouble...




    By the way, whats your opinion on that??

    so with driver 13.11 v1 and 940gpu 1150 mem 24x multies ONE CARD we get the same results almost ,

    you have------- 6835 total---------6864 gpu score
    i have -----------6888 total---------6937 gpu score

    the slight difference is from the 920 vs 940 gpu speed.

    SO HOW DOES nospheratu get:
    7044 total and --------- 7226 gpu score ???
     
  48. flingin

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    i dunno, i also have 25x multis 90/80

    i think this is still within acceptable variance

    I think this might be also CPU related
     
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    its not cpu because i use 24x and he does also and i have (you also) more cpu speed than him . BUT in gpu speed his cards are faster. in crossfire he gets like 1000+ more points in gpu score!!! :confused:

    i am not gealous or something, i just want to find whats the reason so we may gain these extra points and FPS... they are free ... :cool: why not get them
     
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    can be anything, 3Dmark systeminfo, core voltage, tesselation, i would not bother, maybe we use different benchmark ?

    3DMarks are too complitaced nowdays

    Uniengine ?
     
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