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    M17x r3 680M compatability

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by BlakeE450, Jun 21, 2012.

  1. bigtonyman

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    you need the modded A08 bios to do it. I'm not sure if he has that or not.
     
    bigtonyman, Jul 13, 2012
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  2. kissasalienware

    kissasalienware Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have successfully mod the driver by adding my device id into it and even finish installing it. but, when i restart my laptop, the screen goes black and the fan start spin even faster after the WELCOME of windows pop out. and i had to restart it again. is it because the problem is more than drivers or i just done the modification wrong?
     
    kissasalienware, Jul 13, 2012
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    All I can say is... why didn't I max out the R3 I have now. I've been keeping any eye on this thread and it looks pretty bleak for now. Time to order dat
    M18x :D 680m SLI FTW... or at least start saving heh.
     
    Toledano, Jul 13, 2012
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  4. yoshomiamoto

    yoshomiamoto Notebook Guru

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    If anything it's the bios....did you try the latest bios on dells website yet?
     
    yoshomiamoto, Jul 13, 2012
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  5. yoshomiamoto

    yoshomiamoto Notebook Guru

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    If you need unloack bios google m17x r3 unlocked bios, also I think some on this site posted them up to download, search for it
     
    yoshomiamoto, Jul 14, 2012
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  6. vginside

    vginside Notebook Geek

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    Hey guyz!
    Investing so much in 680M GPU you can also try getting new Motherboard of R4 if its available. Much simpler solution... I bet the chasis should fit perfectly can someone comment on the same...

    Regards!
     
    vginside, Jul 14, 2012
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  7. OblastSRT4

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    Does the R4 mobo allow use of the sandy bridge? Is anything else different between the R3/R4?
     
    OblastSRT4, Jul 14, 2012
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  8. vginside

    vginside Notebook Geek

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    Hi,
    New Bios A10 in r3 says support for new processors... Major changes as per best of my knowledge is R4 has more USB3.0 ports and PCI3.0 slot instead of 2.0... Rest all architecture is same but still as i said if chassis is same for R3 and R4 should fit one to one as replacement in R3...

    Regards!
     
    vginside, Jul 14, 2012
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  9. OblastSRT4

    OblastSRT4 Notebook Evangelist

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    Good stuff man! +Rep.
     
    OblastSRT4, Jul 14, 2012
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  10. vginside

    vginside Notebook Geek

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    I also checked on Ark.intel.com compared I7-2720QM (Sandy bridge) vs i7-3720QM (Ivy Bridge)
    heres the link: Compare Intel® Products
    It shows the pin out/package socket every other specs is same other then i mentioned above in earlier post so should work for sure...

    Regards!
     
    vginside, Jul 14, 2012
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  11. The Revelator

    The Revelator Notebook Prophet

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    The unlocked A10 BIOS for the R3 is available here: M17xR3_Unlocked_A10_Bios_Full.zip. Props to our friends svl7 and Bios-Mods for the work.

    Sandy Bridge processors work fine in the R4 motherboard. If you recall the R4 was sold with Sandy Bridge CPUs when it was first introduced, pending the release of Ivy Bridge.
     
    The Revelator, Jul 14, 2012
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  12. BlakeE450

    BlakeE450 Notebook Consultant

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    Are the features of this unlocked bios different in any way when compared to the A08?

    Thanks!
     
    BlakeE450, Jul 14, 2012
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  13. The Revelator

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    Nope. Exactly the same options as unlocked A08, but built on the A10 BIOS.
     
    The Revelator, Jul 14, 2012
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  14. SkylineLvr

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    So the modded A10 still allows SATA III speeds for the 0 HDD slot?
     
    SkylineLvr, Jul 14, 2012
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  15. kissasalienware

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    Thank you so much for the link, now i have upgraded to the modded A10 bios and tried install driver after disable the igp and still not working

    GOOOOOOD NEWS GUYS !!

    it work, it finally work. I have used Revelator's unlocked A10 BIOS, disable the igp, modded one specific driver downloaded from eurocom tech support by adding the device id of my 680m (other driver just dont work). and now its working.
    Thanks for all the helps, ideas and support you guys have provided. im soooooo appreciated! ill post some image with evidence and performance test result either in this thread or one new. now im so tired and need some rest. And i sense it wont be just easy like this.
    again thank you all
     
    kissasalienware, Jul 14, 2012
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  16. svl7

    svl7 T|I

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    Cool, good news!


    Sata behaves differently than in A08, but I could modify A10 so that it behaves like A08 when it comes to Sata.
     
    svl7, Jul 14, 2012
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  17. yoshomiamoto

    yoshomiamoto Notebook Guru

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    Sweet!! The guys a eurocom are really great, hey can you upload the files You got from eurocom and the files you hacked for download? Is the device id different for every computer? Do we have to hack it ourselves to get it to work on our com? How did you do it?
     
    yoshomiamoto, Jul 14, 2012
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  18. jinda

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    I really can't see how the guys from Eurocom help in this case. Only thing I read about their suggestion is to buy a separate set of heatsink which I'm not sure why because I thought it's NOT even related.

    After reading everything, its clear that the help came from SVL7 and The Revelator so props to them and for kissasalienware for not giving up & taking the risk in buying the card. Unless I'm reading this wrong :confused:

    Anyway, congrats for making it work. Some of us R3 users are hoping to upgrade to 680M and you made it really clear that it's doable. Enjoy your new beast!
     
    jinda, Jul 14, 2012
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  19. yoshomiamoto

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    lol, i didnt mean it that way bro, i thank avl7 and revelator too for their work, but also eurocom for giving him the drivers that they used to get it to work, as eurocom were the ones who could get it to work when i contacted them in regards to getting the 680m---anyways, thanks to everyone for the help, cant wait to hear how he modded the files :cool:
     
    yoshomiamoto, Jul 14, 2012
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  20. vic_doom69

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    awesome, many many thanks +rep

    +rep

    i would like to have an a10 modded bios to still allow sata 3
    +rep
     
    vic_doom69, Jul 14, 2012
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  21. SkylineLvr

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    If you are able to do this, I would be much appreciated.

    By the way, is there going to be any noticeable differences/gains for the R3 users? I'm using the modded A08 for the ability to disable the iGPU and for the SATA III speeds for slot 0. Wish both slots would run SATA III :(
     
    SkylineLvr, Jul 14, 2012
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  22. bigtonyman

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    Glad you got it working!! :)

    That would be great!! :)
     
    bigtonyman, Jul 14, 2012
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  23. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    :D
    Pretty nice temperatures too :D

     
    Cloudfire, Jul 14, 2012
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  24. The Revelator

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    Congratulations! Our 680M Pioneer. +Rep.

    Look forward to seeing some benching reports from you very soon.
     
    The Revelator, Jul 14, 2012
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  25. littleone562

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    Awesome :)
     
    littleone562, Jul 14, 2012
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  26. juliant

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    Mmm, maybe it will work, maybe not. I know that Sandy Bridge CPU works in the R4 systems (because I tried it) but not the other way around. We are talking about different chipset my dear friend and not only the socket. It matches the socket but I doubt that an Ivi Bridge CPU will work in an R3 motherboard. I wouldn't try it as you may fry something...
     
    juliant, Jul 14, 2012
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  27. xchang

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    so based on kissasalienware experience, 680M will work on the m17x r3 after a few tweaks :eek:
     
    xchang, Jul 15, 2012
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  28. bigtonyman

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    Yup, lets just hope we can get some of the other kinks worked out too. :)
     
    bigtonyman, Jul 15, 2012
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    xchang, Jul 15, 2012
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  30. vginside

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    Hi,
    i think you misunderstood the point. The point was to buy a new MB of R4 and along with 680M and install in R3 with sandy brdige processor since chassis was same and not installing Ivy bridge on R3 MB... Hope you get it now ;)

    Regards!
     
    vginside, Jul 15, 2012
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  31. dingbat501

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    Great news.

    Will this work with in 3D though?
     
    dingbat501, Jul 15, 2012
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  32. Mahesh_Singh

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    +1 to the question....
    I would like to know a definite answer to this too!
    3D would be a make-or-break deal for me here :)
     
    Mahesh_Singh, Jul 15, 2012
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  33. GeoCake

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    Unless the R3 gets a bios update to support 3D with the 680M/675M, no it won't work. Already been confirmed with those who flashed their 580Ms to 675Ms. Widezu should be able to confirm this too
     
    GeoCake, Jul 15, 2012
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  34. Mahesh_Singh

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    Yup, was afraid so.... As per widezu in a previous post where there was a talk of 3D, he said bios modification for r3 to accept 3d for 680m is something dell wont do in a million moons... guess my money is going to steam sale then :D
     
    Mahesh_Singh, Jul 15, 2012
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  35. vic_doom69

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    does the 675m still support 120hz?

    edit: a 580 that has been flashed to a 675 in an r3 that is
     
    vic_doom69, Jul 15, 2012
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  36. MickyD1234

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    It drives the display in 120hz but you lose 3D - quoting Widezu who tested this out. :)
     
    MickyD1234, Jul 15, 2012
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  37. juliant

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    And then you would have said after buying the motherboard and the GPU, I better buy an Ivi CPU maybe will perform better and you would think, what have I done? I should have just bought a brand new system, would have cost me the same :D
     
    juliant, Jul 15, 2012
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    Here you go: Downloads | Tech|Inferno

    It's BIOS A10 with the SATA settings of A08, so it will perform as A08 when it comes to SATA.
     
    svl7, Jul 15, 2012
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  39. littleone562

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    This man deserves epic +reps
     
    littleone562, Jul 15, 2012
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  40. bigtonyman

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    Thanks a bunch!! ill give it a go later tonight. +rep when I can :)
     
    bigtonyman, Jul 15, 2012
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  41. jinda

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    Absolutely! How come Dell cant do this for us :confused:

    Thanks svl!

    Sent from my HTC Glacier using Tapatalk 2
     
    jinda, Jul 15, 2012
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    I don't think Dell would change the SATA settings in the BIOS for no reason. Maybe there are problems with some HDD/SSD. Who knows.
    This is still awesome nonetheless. Thanks svl7! +rep
     
    aznpos531, Jul 15, 2012
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  43. Raidriar

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    I took the liberty to explore the unlocked and modded A10 bios for clues as to how we could get gtx 675m and 680m to work with 3d. Using winhex and ezh2o, i wasn't able to find a single reference to a nvidia card supposed to be supported by natively for 3d vision (whether it be the GTX 460M, 560M, or 580M) in the R3 bios. searches in all hex memory give no results for 10DE1211 (which is the 580m vendor/dev combo in hex)

    I don't know if the 3d restriction is vBIOS related, driver related, or if I missed something in the bios search.
     
    Raidriar, Jul 16, 2012
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  44. BlakeE450

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    I just wanted to express how grateful I am for your efforts in doing research into getting the 3D to work in the r3 with a 600 series card. :)

    EDIT:

    +rep'd
     
    BlakeE450, Jul 16, 2012
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  45. vic_doom69

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    as already stated, thanks for you efforts. +rep
     
    vic_doom69, Jul 16, 2012
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  46. bigtonyman

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    So far the Modded A10 bios has been working great!! thanks again Svl!! :D
     
    bigtonyman, Jul 16, 2012
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  47. upgradeyourlaptop

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    Hello NBR,

    A few pages back there were people asking for the modded driver file we provided for 680M installation.

    For your convenience, you can find it here.

    Happy upgrades!

    -Dan
     
    upgradeyourlaptop, Jul 16, 2012
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  48. svl7

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    You need to look again, it's there. :p
    There's a lot of such reference and some interesting device IDs. :D

    Though I don't know what you expect from changing some device IDs... If you want to do some crazy testing, cool! You should still be able to recover from possible bricks by the known USB method.

    Cheers!
     
    svl7, Jul 16, 2012
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  49. yoshomiamoto

    yoshomiamoto Notebook Guru

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    Yes!!! Thank you eurocom, you are awesome!!
    I am actually in the process of ordering my 680m from you guys today!
     
    yoshomiamoto, Jul 16, 2012
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  50. Raidriar

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    Then I clearly missed something. I was looking for references to nvidia cards in the bios to see where the 3d whitelist might be. The idea was to perhaps take the device Id's for the GTX 460M (10DE 0DD1) and GTX 560M (10DE 1251) and replace them with id's for GTX 675M (10DE 1212) and GTX 680M (10DE 11A0). You think that would be possible? The idea is to replace those 2 id's in the bios to minimize bios brick possibility.
     
    Raidriar, Jul 16, 2012
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