M17x-R2 - out with HD5870

I really don't think Dell thinks that deep when product cycles are only a few months apart.

you know what the funny thing is? I'm viewing this on my netbook with a tiny 11" screen, so I can't tell the difference because I don't have my M17x XD


if you say tesselation is a big advantage I'll believe you.

 

In benchmarks, yes.

However, not all games benefit from Crossfire or SLI. Some games it may increase performance by 50%, while other maybe 5%.

 

the second video that just compares screen shots really makes it for me.. the one where its a staircase of stone steps... the dx10 is flat and complete crap. tessellation makes the steps have depth and the stones on the ground become all realistic looking... all in real-time. its fairly amazing.

 

and apparently, without any fps decrease.

 

That is not a good comparison. Compare a 920XM/4870 setup to a 920XM/5870 setup or compare a 920XM 4870 CF to a 920XM 5870 CF setup.

Everyone knows benchmark adds a lot of points for dual graphics. You are talking about rendering applications that are prepared for that not all games or should I say not many popular games takes advantage of CF or SLI...

 

I think am in a speculative mood so I will throw some extremely absurd speculations out there concerning the cross fire configuration of the 5870,

1) Limited supply of 5870 cards so they want to sell more PCs with a single 5870 VS less PCs with CF 5870.

2) With the current drivers the 5870 are running a bit hot because they always run at full 3D clocks. Alienware is waiting for the new drivers before they release in CF.

3) New gaming laptop chassis might be coming sometime this summer and they want the CF5870 to be one of its selling points that is unique to that chassis.

 

I think it's as simple as they're just starting to get the cards in stock. Gotta remember, some of these things have to go through customs and with different countries that time can vary. No conspiracy theories here lol.

 

we weren't asking for a CF to CF setup, he presented exactly what we asked for. A Single 5870 to CF 4870's.

it wouldn't make sense for single 5870's to pass early and CF 5870's to pass later.

 

Not sure what you are talking about, there is plenty of supply. Dell Europe has the M17X available with 5870 CF.....

AW is NOT WAITING, it's already for sale in Europe... It's coming out in the USA next week. Where are you getting your info???

There is no new chassis coming this summer, the CF 5870 is ALREADY OUT on the M17X... WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????

 

That is not the proposition that was being offered. The assertion was that the 5870 was "roughly the same as 4870 crossfire."

 

It's a technical problem with crossfire. They just didn't want to delay the release of the 5870s any longer.

 

Are there any benchmark of M15X with 920XM with 4870 and one with 5870 and that would give us a good base analysis of the performance gain in games...

 

You can always get a USB3 expresscard...

 

Ok, sorry, I am in a crappy mood this morning. I just did not read everything...

 

It's up on the US site now as the single 5870, but only the dual 4870s. Also, the Euro site has been updated with the same option, meaning they've left up the single 5870 and taken down the option for the dual 5870s and replaced it with the old dual 4870 option. Maybe they jumped the gun on putting up the Crossfire option with 5870s...

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&oc=dkcwbn1&s=dhs

http://configure.euro.dell.com/dell...en&m_30=322839&oc=N00W7x01&rbc=N00W7x01&s=dhs

 

No, what's out are 5870CF configurable systems. Dell has done this before with GDDR5 4870s, I don't expect we'll actually see 5870CF M17x's for the people that have bought them, nice attitude btw.

 

Yeah, I know I am sick and in a bad mood sorry. Anyways, yes Dell has made mistake before but let's see what will happen to the people that have ordered the 5870 crossfire.

I wonder if they will get a call from Dell letting them know their system is replaced with 4870 CF. In which case many people will get mad...

 

just found out, that if you order through an EPP sales rep, you can change your order basicly up until the 1-2 days until it ships. The rep I talked to says I have until approx may 18 to upgrade if they release.

np, all good.

 

I wonder if the 920XM is really worth it for gaming compared to a slightly OC 820M processor.

Is it easy to OC the 820M processor.

 

No OC for the 820 in the M17x.

 

If I'm getting m17x, then it will be i7 620 and single 5870. I wouldn't get faster CPU, unless I was already getting 5870 CF.

Maybe this site helps a little:

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7+820QM+@+1.73GHz

 

you can't OC the 820Qm, but you can OC the GPU. The 820Qm is not that bad for the money you spend.

 

Thank you for your kind words! I guess I should have put the words "absurd speculation" in the first sentence in capital. Also as it was mentioned earlier in a number of posts the 5870 CF option is no longer available almost world wide that's why I was speculating.

 

Link to this information or a reliable source you heard it from? Otherwise now that they've backed out the Euro sites from Crossfire I'm going to say Dell got the 5870 cards without the physical Crossfire connection point like people are swapping into their M15x laptops, and someone at the build factory went "oh crap, this won't work!" lol.

 

I think Mandrake's explanation is probably the truth. Remember that those cards are quite readily available now. Almost all major laptop manufacturer now have them.

 

ive just cancelled my bloody order

well im waiting on an email but its more likely to be bad news inst it

 

If one existed don't you think it would be here already? They have Crossfire configs in their possession (just like the 4870s w/GDDR5) lets just hope these actually get released.

 

Wow.

Rumors are spreading like crazy around here and some people seem to know things that no one else does (ie there will not be a new chassis this summer, etc).

It's all specualtion unless someone close to the situation comes and clears the air on why CF is not working with the current 5870's that Dell is supplying.

 

OK.

The 5870 is available as a single card, not in Crossfire.

We will wait till the option is available

well their you go im still waiting jeeeeeeeeesus man!!!!!!

 

I was only quoting you regarding you saying Crossfire was delayed for "technical" reasons and wondering where you heard that and what the reason was.

^ This is what I was saying.

 

So how about something constructive... Has anyone tested the M15X with 920XM and 4870 and then with 5870 to see the real increase in performance of a single card in the same system?

 

thing is if some on here are correct and m17 comes with 1 5870 if the cf connection is not available then you may never get cf for 5870 as you would have to buy two new cards assuming they make the things in the first place,

and on another note if they have got a techinal problem they would be better of still selling it as it seems the people on here are the ones that find the solutions to the problems not dell lol

 

Damn this sucks. More waiting I guess.

 

When the 4870 was tested it did not work with the M15x. I don't think anyone has tried it since the latest bios update.

Did you back out of the sale?

 

Yeah not going to sell it if there's no crossfire 5870.

 

Hmmm

I had a thought and I wonder if there ever will be a CF 5870 system.

Remember when we were questioning why the X8100 weren't getting 5870's while the W8x0 were?

I wonder if Clevo was having the same issues. Worth giving a thought, IMO.

 

I'm still siting in line with my order.

 

So you were able to order the 5870s in crossfire?

 

Oh so no CF 5870M Things are pretty rough these days...

 

No comment.

 

Not sure if anyone has chatted with AW yet...but I just did to get more info. I skipped around in this thread to get the highlights. Sorry for the long post.

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Maybe this helps those who want to buy the single card config and wait for crossfire. I have to think that the single card will be crossfire enabled. But I doubt I was speaking to an expert in the matter.

 

Dang!

Don't know how you managed that but good going, FOR REALZ!! lol

 

Well, right, I think the current motherboards support crossfire for 4870HDs. The crossfire hardware hasn't changed much. The only thing I think could affect you is power?

If you get the lower proc you might need to upgrade the PS. Dunno. Just my thoughts about the whole "upgrade later" option.

 

First rule of AW fight club: never trust anything a rep says.

 

No typo they are building another with the 5870's

 

LOOL, if so congratulations!

 

I told you guys ,its marketing BS.Wait it out ,don't order the 4870's..

 

Good luck, but you should probably prepare yourself for a surprise.

 

wait what? You can't even adjust the FSB at least like in the R1?

 

Nope. Nothing. TheCodeBreaker has been trying but ran into a brick wall.