M17x-R2 - out with HD5870

I think sleey0 is right. If the X8100 doesn't have it yet, Dell most likely ran into the same problem as Clevo did. Otherwise X8100 would've had it as soon as it was made available for sale. They're probably working with ATi behind the scenes to sort this out. But considering how long it's been, things aren't looking great right now.

 

We tried getting setfsb to work with it but the guy who designs the program took a look at the datasheet for the clock generator and found that there was a PLL specification error. I really wanted to see an OCed 820QM in the m17x R2

 

especially ones named Shoji.

the N/A rep I talked to agreed with my prediction, either we'll see them in the next few days (in which case anyone that bought it through an EPP rep is safe) or we won't see them for a *long* time.

wow, so only the 920XM is overclockable. unbelievable.

 

lol. That pretty well covers the range of options. Either we will have them soon or not for a long time, great. All we know is we won't have them in a moderate amount of time, just long or short.

 

Wiser words have never been spoken! Still, that's the best you're going to hear from Dell until you see them up on the site.

 

The Asus G73 has built in bios OC'ing and setfsb works with it. That is the portable system to get for proc OC'ing.

 

To LOZZ,But you disagreed with me before,lol,now your agreeing,make up your mind.

Don't trust the sales rep,their only gonna tell you what is currently offered on their screen ,and even if they did know, they wouldn't tell you.

 

Don't trust that. They're reading from a script file usually, and are often not overly technical people. He likely was only responding to the fact that the M17x supports 2 physical cards in the unit, not the fact that the graphics cards will definitely have a Crossfire connection point on them (even though you explicitly asked that).

I wouldn't risk getting a single card system at this point, based on the fact that we know for sure that there are 5870s in the wild without that connection point.

 

Well...I think it is realistic to believe the crossfire 5870's will be here by the release of the 940xm...that's when I'm in...

 

For what it's worth, the HD5870 cf are still configurable in Ireland and Norway (see OP). Maybe some other country's aswell, but I still think it's strange!

Anyway I will stick with my current order (which is HD5870 with Crossfire enabled) and see what happens. I'll keep you updated!.

 

If Dell sold a laptop with a single card that wasn't capable of crossfire in a crossfire enabled system they would face a pretty large backlash from people who bought it hoping to add a card later. They would never do that. Just look at the system design life cycle of the M17....err...

 

And by that time you'll be dreaming about Sandy

 

and fermi...

 

I'd like to have my Sandy and Fermi right now. nVidia..how I miss you.

 

Jokker, I am like you. So tired to see Nvidia is last and I miss them being first. How did they get so low? I wish I was a major shareholder to fire that useless CEO.

 

I'm sure by Monday they will be removed as well.

 

Good point.

 

I am surprised they would let consumers continue to order those configs if they don't exist. Usually Dell is very reactive on its website when it makes a mistake.

 

No, they're pretty slow actually. We don't know how many orders they've taken anyway, we could be talking about <1-2dozen so far.

they're willing to charge you for a CF cable and installation tech, why not 2 new cards since the one you bought isn't CF capable?

it's not strange, they're extremely small markets which make < 3-5% of all orders globally, if there's an unseen mistake its *going* to be there.

 

True, round about 15.000.000 inhabitants in total (Norway, Ireland and Denmark) in comparison The netherlands has 16.500.000 alone.
So I guess you are even a bit positive there, < 1-2%?

But then again why not remove the CrossFire option there aswell? That would be the easiest thing to do...

 

Here's my 2 cents theory regarding the future of 5870XF.
Once people who ordered the R2s with a single 5870 start receiving their systems (hopefully within 3-4 weeks), some of these people will open the laptop and take a look at the 5870 card:
If the card does have a physical connector for xfire, then we'll know that such thing is not a myth and Dell will hopefully offer them soon enough.
However, if the card does not have the xfire connector, I'm willing to bet money that Dell gave up the tests and we will never see a 5870 in crossfire.
So the bottom line is, in about a month, at the latest, we'll know if there will ever be a 5870 crossfire or not.

 

my point is that, either Dell for those sites has yet to notice or is slow to correct the mistake since they are small markets.

 

probably, but then again i'm sure they will try to cf the cards since its supposed to be the top of the line laptop..

 

We're definitely going to see crossfire 5870m.

 

I never said they wouldn't.. only that it's either going to be very shortly or a long time from now..

 

I hope you are right. Otherwise I'd better hurry and buy them from Ireland, Norway or Denmark before Dell takes them down

 

You'd have to pay $$$$ in customs after an already bloated price.. otherwise sure!

 

You must be exaggerating a bit. More like 20% at most.

 

What's with all the hyperbole going on?

Yes, XF 5870's WILL happen at some point. Do you guys honestly think they're going to sit on a one card configuration for the long term future, essentially a downgrade from the current XF configuration?

No.

It may take a few months, but Dell would have to be crazy foolish to think they can get away with not offering this card XF'd at some point.

I tend to believe it's about marketing right now too. There's no reason for them to release the XF 5870 cards yet; the longer they delay launching this, the more hype they generate as well as the ability to call it another "refresh."

Think about it from all angles. No large corporation ever tells the consumer the truth about anything. It's all lies in the name of marketing.

I understand it's a disappointment, but the XF 4870's beast most all the games I throw at it (now that they, ahem, work) and DX11 will continue to remain overrated for at least another year until developers really start tapping into tessellation.

 

yes, I ordered it from the usa to save some money but they charged me here 300 euros in custom taxes so actually it was like buying it here

 

I was joking. I'll wait until they are offered on the US site.

 

$$$? 20% of what I paid is $700, If you want to count the minnimun $4xx Dell charges for the upgrade you are essentially buying the cards seperatly from the parts catalouge

I know you were, the way some people act in this forum isn't reassuring that they wouldn't start a thread attempting it however

did I miss a whole page of posts or something? Who and where does it say cf 5870s wouldn't happen?

 

For thoes order with early 5870xfire showing up, let's see if they change in production before shipping. Why believe the tech said of the 5870 xfire problem ? what if they want to sell fast left out of 4870s in stock

 

If you bought a single 5870 I am sure crossfire will work in the future.

 

Well, they actually still need 4870 cards in stock for repairs.

 

Ok so is it ok to buy a single 5870? and just crossfire it in the future? Or would that be taking a rather large risk?

 

There's only speculation at this point. There's 0 evidence to say either way.

 

Wait for a physical card from *Dell* to be in hand and inspected for the Crossfire connector. So far, a 5870 with that connector doesn't exist.

 

If you want the 5870s in crossfireX, dont get a single card and buy the other one later, there has to be a connector on the card for the crossfire cable to the other card, if you buy a single 5870 it might not have the connector.

 

Not to mention, you need the actual connector. I can't imagine what a nightmare that might be if you get two cards and no connector and then Dell never officially offering it so there's no official connector and you have to MacGruber a cable.

 

Damnnation with dell, the waiting game will have to again and again, i have a feeling it won't work and then secretly another machine will come out and then dell will say how do you like them apples lol

 

I would hope they at least don't use the word "Apple". Based on the fact the R2 released recently, I don't see them sitting on the 4870x2 as the best option for at least a year before another refresh or new model. Hopefully with that frame of thinking, we'll eventually see the 5870x2. But Dell seems to defy logic on occasion.

 

Guys, its coming...very soon. Don't grab the single 5870m unless that is the config. you want.

 

Who's logic?

 

If you guy are getting the single 5870 because you are tired of waiting, you are just crazy.

It's coming soon, worse case, the fermi based solution will be here within 2 to 3 months...

 

Yeah i just was kidding around, but it could have happened though, the xps 1340 had the same problem, the chassis couldn't work with the new current line of processors, so they discontinued it, so that also happen with this machine, and a single 5870 is very very powerful and the only graphics card out there to play games mostly fluidly at 1080. I truly feel that dell is going to pull a fast one.

 

Since an Nvidia 2GB GDDR5 pro card appeared in the lists for HP 17" workstations, even though it's not even available for pre-order yet, I'd say - something is almost here.

 

Defiantly wait. I've wait for 3 months since CES, and pulled the trigger on 22/4. What happened couple hours later was all Europe have 5870 CF. I canceled my 4870s and plan to wait for AU gets updates. In the current situation, I will not fool myself again

 

months? lol.. I wouldn't call that waiting, that's just not purchasing at all. As quick as the notebook market moves, 2-3 months is a long time.

how this forum managed 43 pages of guessing and speculation is amazing.

 

This just shows you how many people want these cards