M17x-r3 Overclocking (...sort of)

I have no idea what any of this means... all I want to see is if the stock memory can be turned up from 1333 to 1600 or not.

Also, is there such thing as OCing the HDD? Cuz it sure does take longer than I thought a new-school computer would take when loading up SC2 or WoW or even that crappy program AlienFX or even the CCC when trying to switch gpus via right-clicking desktop and going to "configure switchable graphics."

 

That's because only the first row has anything to do with RAM.
The rest (L1, L2, L3 caches) your i7-2820QM clearly smokes my i7-2630QM...because it's a faster CPU with more cache (8mb vs. 6mb)
Faster CPU = Faster r/w/c operations. I'm surprised the HyperX ram beats the stock ram + 2820QM in writes.

With that in mind, take another look



Thanks for the info on tweaking stock ram! Very nice. When I get my replacement r3, I'll play with timings (since I'll be able to use 1600 native with a 2720)

 

1600 at this stage = No
1333 can be tweaked close to 1600 @ 1333 CAS 7 timings = Yes @ 8-7-7-22

Goto into your BIOS and apply these tweaks (for Micron branded RAM). I worked on the memory tweaks all last night.

New Frequency in 10KHz set to 10032 for a steady 100.1MHz base clock
Apply and save, F10 save and reboot. Press F2 again set timing, F10 save. Will hold all tweaks for good

Memory Override Support = Enabled
Memory voltage = 1.6v
Memory Frequency = 1333
DIMM Profile (XMP) = Custom setting
tCL = 8
tRCD = 5
tRP = 5
tRAS = 17

For the hard drive, check the model in device manager, buy another drive online cheap and go RAID0

 

Yes I realise that was a bit unfair, I only really noticed after I had finished posting my results, due to my over focus.
I will verify with the same mutli with unclewebs throttlestop and set to x20 and turbo. Yeah the extra cache on the L3 may off set the result, and possibly the turbo range may not be in sync.

Cheers, I thought it the best I can do the help out others that want some form of overclocking on their memory.

kunekaden, can you please take a SPD dump of your HyperX and PM me. I will have a go at flashing my stock RAM and another spare cheapo module with the HyperX SPD, see if I can get it to run at 1600 with XMP enabled.

 

Sure, if you tell me how to create said dump!

Unfortunately TS options don't work with SB CPUs due to hardware limitations

 

COOL BEANZ. I will def try this tonight

So is there no such thing as OCing a hdd? Is the only way to get a faster one is to buy a faster one (aka SSD)?

 

Since ive read this and ive been working away with the Performance settings,you all have provided such good information i figured id see if i could contribute.I use 4 programs to test the adjustments that are made (all are free).I use super pi , 3dmark 06 , realtemp and the windows experience index.Im short to 9gb of (1333)ram for today so i had that and the 2820qm 1.5 3d 120hz oem 320 for my test.At stock settings my first score on super pi to a million was 11.233seconds ,on 3dmark 06 it scored 14535, highest tempatures 62c (realtemp), and ram scores 7.5 in windows index as well as the processor.After changes in the settings which include, changed from the stock to 10301khz ,memory voltage 1.60 , memory frequency 1333 dimm profile default.The new scores from test : super pi was 10.827, on 3dmark 14957,highest temp 69c , score for ram and processor increase to 7.6 in windows index.These settings for me are very stable , and the diffrence shows.I wondered if anyone else has tried these ? maybe a comparison of what your r3 adjustments and scores ? thank you for all the helpful info (it really helped)running better then before even though it was great to me before wondering how much higher it can get though ? thanks for any answers helps appreciated.

Edit: better performance with these settings , 10160khz , 1.55 volt ,MF:auto profile:default. Increased boot time more then when it was set higher, dont know why but it really does perform here best and ive been at this all night lol

 

Anyone can create an SPD dump of their RAM with this free tool.

EVGA | Articles | EVGA SPD Utility

 

Are you guys resetting your windows core clock or whatever Unclewebb was talking about in the m11x forums when you OC the BCLK?

 

Here's a link for what I was talking about.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...must-read-setfsb-o-c-game-problems-fixed.html

When using SetFSB or any program that adjusts your base clock, it can screw up the accuracy of the high performance timer that many Windows applications use. The 3DMark series seems to correct for this bug but many programs and benchmarks do not. Anyone that overclocks from within windows and is using Windows 7 needs to read the above thread.

 

guys in the bios of systems with none extreme cpu, what is the adjustment range of the wattage and time settings for turbo, mine are 99w and 56 time - is this different ?

also tried to install throttlestop and got an error

 

Hey guys.. in my m14x, I just set the speed of the mem as 1600 and it stayed? I dont know what you guys see on cpu-z but on mine it looks like 1600? I have the 2630qm. Thoughts?

 

Here's mine (2820 running HyperX 1600).

 

So far I got my 6870m up to 800/1100. Pretty nice jump on core, not sure If I wanna push it any farther.

 

Crysising 2 on 800/1200 on 6970. Had it on 850/1200 but got a lock-up after about an hour so decided to play it safe.

 

Excellent guide guys..


Here is my contribution to it, if you want to OC your ATI video card use the AMD CPU CLOCK TOOL: Download AMD GPU Clock Tool v0.9.8 | techPowerUp


First try the latest version of it, if it doesnt work with your model then try with a previous version, i managed to OC my 3670 vid. card with version .7 up to 85% from stock clocks (and nice temps) on an SXPS 1640, i bet you could do much more on a 6970..

Cheers 4 the good work!

***PS for dookie11: you can indeed better the speed of your hard drive, you can put it to work at max speed with "HD INSPECTOR", look for its portable version, you can set Acoustic levels to Max & speed to Max as well, for normal Hd´s makes a great & noticeable difference..

 

@vlank and dookie11,

your OT posts have been moved to the owners lounge. This thread is for CPU/MEM OCing.

Thanks.

 

Woops.

Thx bud!

 

Did you guys found out why the score is so low? Btw, i am getting around the same score as u.

 

I have BIOS A04 and cannot go past 100.45mhz, what the hell?

 

Yeah that's weird, mine goes to 107.5mhz bclk

 

I am set at 115 I believe.

 

Picture please.
If it's at 115mhz, you're capping out at just over 3.9ghz single core turbo.

Wow, that's epic fail. Sorry to hear that...

 

rofl pic plox. I'd like to see that, it'd be one of the rarest 2820qm's in the world I believe.

 

i7-2820XXM
Extremely Extreme Mobile

I really do want to see this though. If it's true and/or possible, I'll be really excited at the possibilities.

 

Lol less than 100mhz from single core turbo of the 2920xm OCed to 4ghz

 

I cant go any higher then 104.84.

What is the benefit of running it that high?

 

Well it's just faster.. but honestly the most useful thing is probably for CPU scores on benchmarks. Most people probably wont notice a super significant increase in performance. Although that being said, I have noticed some minor increases in some load times and application speeds during heavy multi-tasking.

 

Ok any tips on the memory overclock?

 

You mean for a GPU or what? As far as I know the m17x r3 CPU's are pretty much completely locked. With the exception of the very minor bclk tweaking.

 

I mean the memory voltage.

 

Question to y'all: Will Windows bootup faster if I OC? Or should I just reformat and clean install Win7?

 

You need an SSD to really see a big difference.

 

Maybe just get an ssd or the momentus xt! I just upgraded and my bootup is faster for about 10-15sec.

 

What do you mean 10-15sec? It takes 10-15sec total, or it's faster BY 10-15sec? If the former, then no thank you to SSD's.

 

10-15 sec faster than the stock hard drive.

 

Ah. No thank you then. I guess I'll just do a clean install.

 

Takes me less than 15 seconds total from when I hit the power button on a cold boot to when I'm in Windows opening up Google Chrome; using a 90 GB Vertex 2 SSD. Could probably reboot 2-3 times using my SSD before you finish your first boot with the HDD.

Boot and app load times are worlds faster than HDD's.

 

Huh?
My boot time is 13 seconds.
I've never seen a significant (if any) difference in boot time from bclk OC on m17x-r3.

 

Anyone know where to download a good boot timer, tried 2 but didnt work.

Go SSD you will notice the differance.

 

Isn't there one called Boottimer?

 

startup from hybernate is a few secs for me, I very rarely boot from bios or shut down, but I do like my 1.5Tb diskspace

 

Does hibernating vs. shutting down ruin the computer over time? I had a roommate who never shut down and just put his computer on sleep overnight. I never knew the reason, cuz shutting off and turning on doesn't take THAT long..

 

sleep - the computer uses memory to store some startup data and never powers down completely
hybernate - the computer uses the HD to store some startup data and does power down (preferred method for laptops)

niether of these does any harm or create wear on the machine

without wanting to open up a whole discussion again on SSD's - they only show benefit when starting up the machine or opening applications - if that's what you spend most of your time doing then it would be a good option, for me I spend most of my time 99.9% using applications so I would see no benefit..............................please don't start this debate again it's been flogged to death on several threads here, there are also some good reviews on the net that pretty much support what I just said above.

 

Thanks! Dang, I learn something new everyday on NBR. Love you guys!

 

I received my 2nd replacement m17xr3 today. This one came with an i7-2820QM meaning I have now owned all 3 available processors for the r3!

When I booted into bios to play with OC options, I was sadly disappointed. The 2820 would only go up to 100.85 before it would flash rainbows and explode. Swapping out the ram for hyperx allowed an extra slight OC up to 101.00 before explosions and rainbows!

Refusing defeat, I decided to check whether or not the mobo was playing much of a role, so I swapped the CPU into my old r3. Long story short, I have this i7-2820QM running at 106.00 in the old mobo....

The only other factor I see that could be contributing to this madness is that Dell decided to ship me a 6 870 instead of a 6970, oops! I would swap out the GPUs...well I probably still will just to check...but folding the GPU back down into place in its slot scares the hell outta me.

Does this seem odd to anyone?

 

so what you are saying is the cpu in this case has nothing to do with it, must admit I had a feeling that was the case anyway, I wonder what else is hanging off that bus, at some point I'm pretty sure my MB will be replaced as Dell just replace it as a cure all anyway so would be interesting to see if it is a MB restriction or something else.

 

Dang. So troublesome. Say, what's your original (or intended) config supposed to be anyway?

 

original config:
2630, gtx 460m 1080p 60hz

supposed to get this config:
2820, 6970, 1080p 60hz

I just pulled the 6970 out of my to be returned system so it's all good.


And the CPu does play into how far it can OC. I can't OC the 2820 as far as the 2720 in this mobo.

 

yes of course the cpu plays a part but it is obviously not exclusive

10080 to 10600 is a huge difference, mine currently will not go above 10050 and It is a 2920 extreme CPU, would be interesting like you to try it in another system, still not sure the MB is responsible - rather something else being driven off it, the only way to prove this would be to swap all removable parts from one machine to the other or the MB