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    *OFFICIAL* Alienware 17 and M17x Benchmark Thread - Part 4

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by BatBoy, Mar 11, 2011.

  1. cookinwitdiesel

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    That could be why haha
     
    cookinwitdiesel, Mar 16, 2011
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    Yep most certainly that is why...
     
    Joebarchuck, Mar 16, 2011
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  3. kunekaden

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    if you have 2720 or 2820 you can set xmp 1, restart, override frequency to 1600 and get 1600 cas7
     
    kunekaden, Mar 16, 2011
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  4. Speedy Gonzalez

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    i don't think you can pick a profile and then override the speed because even if it works the ram would be unstable
     
    Speedy Gonzalez, Mar 16, 2011
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  5. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    The RAM would not necessarily be unstable.
     
    cookinwitdiesel, Mar 16, 2011
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  6. kunekaden

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    any r3 3d06 benchmarks, or are they not worth doing?
    I don't want to install vantage and want something to compare with :/
     
    kunekaden, Mar 16, 2011
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    06 is to old already to test this kind of hardware even vantage is old but at least you have a better idea of the GPU power with that if you really want to compare run crysis benchmark
     
    Speedy Gonzalez, Mar 16, 2011
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    Why do you not want to install vantage? It is the most used benchmark right now since 06 is getting old but not every one has DX11 hardware.
     
    cookinwitdiesel, Mar 16, 2011
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  9. kunekaden

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    because I'm lazy and don't bench very much
    I installed it anyway though
    got just over 11k.
    Nothing exciting.
     
    kunekaden, Mar 16, 2011
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  10. Dr. J

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    check my sig. Apparently Dane got 16K+ with a little 460m oc.
     
    Dr. J, Mar 16, 2011
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  11. kunekaden

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    yeah I got just barely over 16k earlier today. I guess the verde drivers aren't so bad after all.
     
    kunekaden, Mar 16, 2011
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  12. Dr. J

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    What are the new AMD 'monster card' 3D06 scores?
     
    Dr. J, Mar 16, 2011
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  13. inap

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    sorry been lazy to run 06, i always prefer vantage for gpu comparisons.

    here is vantage @ 850/1050
     

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  14. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Nice score inap and i love the new sig :D.
     
    Quadzilla, Mar 16, 2011
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  15. its.kvn

    its.kvn Notebook Consultant

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    this is what I got.. Result

    all stock..2720QM and HD6970
     
    its.kvn, Mar 16, 2011
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  16. inap

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    haha thanks quad. i did also try to up the voltage to 1.15 but bsod upon boot up, maybe i shoulda tried 1.11 or something first. oh well too lazy to test out atm.
     
    inap, Mar 16, 2011
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  17. DaneGRClose

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    What's the stock voltage on that card inap? And yes you are quite good at "roastin the GPU's" :D
     
    DaneGRClose, Mar 16, 2011
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  18. Dr. J

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    Different CPU but about a 15% jump grossly over 460m?

    Edit. Nope. About 25% stock. And 15% using dane's. OC data. Need a same CPU, memory reference with both gpus oc'ed as it seems 460 has more headroom thus far. Maybe when kune gets his amd...
     
    Dr. J, Mar 16, 2011
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  19. inap

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    stock is 1.1v, so i thought 1.15v would be cake but didn't work for me. anyone else care to try.
     
    inap, Mar 16, 2011
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    Are you using stock drivers or 11.4?

    Yes you are, sorry, I forgot I could see that on your GPU-Z screenshot... LOL
     
    Joebarchuck, Mar 16, 2011
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    using the 11.4, they perform much better then the stock. did you manage to get it working joe?
     
    inap, Mar 16, 2011
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    I am just getting home and just received my SATA III 6GB SSD. Installing that first then I will do some benchmarking but I will get it to work.
     
    Joebarchuck, Mar 16, 2011
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    the only way i got it to work was to install it over the dell driver, for some reason a clean install would not work.
     
    inap, Mar 16, 2011
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  24. its.kvn

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    where did you get the 11.4 cc driver?
     
    its.kvn, Mar 16, 2011
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    inap, Mar 16, 2011
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  26. faiz23

    faiz23 Macbook FTW

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    faiz23, Mar 16, 2011
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  27. its.kvn

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    done +rep for you too for showing it to me
     
    its.kvn, Mar 16, 2011
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  28. DaneGRClose

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    Wow that sucks, a .05v increase shouldn't be a problem at all :( :mad: Wonder what the deal with these cards are, sounds like an updated vbios might be needed too.
     
    DaneGRClose, Mar 16, 2011
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  29. ichime

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    Still figuring out why the R3s aren't seeing the benefits of the 11.4 drivers.

    When I tried 850mhz core and 1100mhz memory, The computer kept shutting off in the middle of the runs even though it showed no signs of instability. It's probably because I maxxed out the TDP on the primary MXM slot.

    825/1075 worked though:

    [​IMG]
     
    ichime, Mar 16, 2011
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  30. Joebarchuck

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    OMG, I paid the $6.95 for basic Vantage 3 days ago and today they upgraded the basic edition for free...

    No more trial version. What a rip off for me.
     
    Joebarchuck, Mar 16, 2011
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  31. Quadzilla

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    @ichime

    Your scores are marginally higher then the R3 scores and if you look at the Texture fill rate between iNaps and yours you will see how much higher yours is with only a small difference in clock speeds between the 2.

    Something must be a bit different between that ES card and the final product ?..
     
    Quadzilla, Mar 16, 2011
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  32. kunekaden

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    Jack Sparrow would never pay $6.95 for (what is now) a free program
    yaaaarrrrrr matey
     
    kunekaden, Mar 16, 2011
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    Joebarchuck, Mar 17, 2011
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  34. ichime

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    I figured out why...

    If you look at my GPU-Z screenshot under shader, look what it says...
     
    ichime, Mar 17, 2011
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    Holy frijoles Batman!!! they crippled the retail version of the card i guess..

    I wonder if the final version of the Clevo card will be the same as yours ?..

    Very interesting and also makes since why the texture fill rate would be higher as well..

    I should have been paying closer attention when i was comparing those 2 GPU Z screenshots.
     
    Quadzilla, Mar 17, 2011
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  36. cookinwitdiesel

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    VERY interesting! We have a 6870 instead of a 6850 (desktop of course)

    Will probably be called the 6990m sadly :(

    lol
     
    cookinwitdiesel, Mar 17, 2011
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    Wow big difference. What is your stock 11.4 score? Also what is your ccc settings? Never mind saw the shades thing now :(
     
    inap, Mar 17, 2011
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    Joebarchuck, Mar 17, 2011
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  39. ichime

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    stock is 12.6k GPU (around 13.2k overall) but my card also has 1120 shaders unlocked...

    Don't know how it happened though. I didn't pay attention to the GPU-Z screenshot of the original VBIOS because of the pixellation issues. It could either be a mistake, an actual 6990M, or I could have unlocked it as I reflashed it with the Dell BIOS.

    I don't know if I should buy another one now from the same vendor and try my luck ;)
     
    ichime, Mar 17, 2011
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  40. Joebarchuck

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    Why does your card has more shaders unlocked than me?
     
    Joebarchuck, Mar 17, 2011
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  41. cookinwitdiesel

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    Might as well get a 2nd, you have a crossfire cable don't you? ;)
     
    cookinwitdiesel, Mar 17, 2011
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  42. ahmadmud

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    this is really interesting, if it turned out to be a "6990" with 1120 shaders instead of 960, then this means that the r2 might have a shot with a card even better that 485m...

    I wonder if all ES are like this, but I doupt it since notebookcheck reviews had the ENG samples and their results were similar to the ones with 960 shaders...
     
    ahmadmud, Mar 17, 2011
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    Yet the 1120 shaders aren't helping that much. I basically get the same score than him with the same frequencies with only 960 shaders.
     
    Joebarchuck, Mar 17, 2011
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    What will be interesting also is once we can figure out how to OC the 2720 and the 2820QM.
     
    Joebarchuck, Mar 17, 2011
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  45. ichime

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    The GPU scores are different though.
     
    ichime, Mar 17, 2011
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  46. Joebarchuck

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    Is there a way to find the GPU score on the basic vantage version or do I have to upgrade?
     
    Joebarchuck, Mar 17, 2011
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    ahmadmud, Mar 17, 2011
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    you don't need to upgrade to anything, just scroll down and look for Graphics score, here: Result


    Under Detailed score, for your current clocks (830/1075) you have:
    3DMark Score
    14740.75 3DMarks
    Graphics Score
    13407.51
    CPU Score
    21007.76

    On the other hand, if you notice his scores for a slightly lower clocks(825/1075) here:
    http://img38.imageshack.us/f/6970mm17xr2vantagegpu82.jpg/

    he has :
    Graphics Score 14788
     
    ahmadmud, Mar 17, 2011
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    That is odd and explains why his scores are better than R3's that are clocked higher. I wonder if AMD intended to release a higher shader 6970M but then backed off because of TDP issues or the Dell one is just neutered?
     
    5150Joker, Mar 17, 2011
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    I would definitely buy an "ES" or whatever it's called if that's what it takes to get a hold of 1120 shaders :D
     
    ahmadmud, Mar 17, 2011
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