The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous pageNext page →

    *OFFICIAL* Alienware 17 and M17x Benchmark Thread - Part 4

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by BatBoy, Mar 11, 2011.

  1. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

    Reputations:
    3,079
    Messages:
    4,207
    Likes Received:
    168
    Trophy Points:
    131
    If you don't know what is, it's in my sig - Tips and Tricks :)
     
  2. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

    Reputations:
    11,536
    Messages:
    19,469
    Likes Received:
    12,882
    Trophy Points:
    931
    this would be for benching only....non benching...leave it disabled...
     
  3. UptownGirl

    UptownGirl Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    22
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Disable C7 or write caching?
     
  4. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

    Reputations:
    11,536
    Messages:
    19,469
    Likes Received:
    12,882
    Trophy Points:
    931
    windows write-cache buffer flushing is what i meant to say.
     
  5. UptownGirl

    UptownGirl Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    22
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Thank you.
     
  6. jinda

    jinda Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    174
    Messages:
    571
    Likes Received:
    35
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Hey guys. I've been using my R3 for 3 days now since the GPU and CPU were replaced as per my original order. I thought I'll try running the benchmarking program just to see where it is at. The scores are:

    PCMark Vantage - 9439
    3DMark Vantage - P14820
    3DMark11 - P3524

    I really dont have any idea on what's good or not as I haven't really tried any of this before. Before as long as I can use the laptop for games, then that's good for me.

    Now, since I am using an AW and I thought it has a pretty decent reputation about gaming and benchmarks (based on what I have read), I thought I should give it a try.

    Comparing my scores against the scores from the 1st page, my scores are pretty low :confused: I know it depends on the setup/specs. But what do you think guys? If you think its low for my specs, what do you think is wrong?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  7. The Revelator

    The Revelator Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    5,395
    Messages:
    4,571
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Your 3dMark11 and 3dMark Vantage scores are exactly what you would expect with your setup at stock clocks. The scores you see on the leaderboard (Page 1) are all the result of extreme overclocking, often with modified components. All is well. :)
     
  8. jinda

    jinda Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    174
    Messages:
    571
    Likes Received:
    35
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Oh I see. Thanks.

    Edit: *&^*! I just noticed. You are one of those monsters in the 1st page! :eek:
     
  9. The Revelator

    The Revelator Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    5,395
    Messages:
    4,571
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Probably not for long. :(
     
  10. bigtonyman

    bigtonyman Desktop Powa!!!

    Reputations:
    2,377
    Messages:
    5,040
    Likes Received:
    277
    Trophy Points:
    251
    Not updating hardware anytime soon eh?
     
  11. long2905

    long2905 Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    2,443
    Messages:
    2,314
    Likes Received:
    114
    Trophy Points:
    81
    yeah at this rate 7970Ms are going to sweep through the leaderboard swift and clean =)
     
  12. The Revelator

    The Revelator Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    5,395
    Messages:
    4,571
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Going to be hard to resist the temptation. Really just a matter of the best way to go about it.
     
  13. bigtonyman

    bigtonyman Desktop Powa!!!

    Reputations:
    2,377
    Messages:
    5,040
    Likes Received:
    277
    Trophy Points:
    251
    Wish I was strong enough to resist, but it appears that the 7970m has its hold on me. :p
     
  14. jinda

    jinda Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    174
    Messages:
    571
    Likes Received:
    35
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Guys. I got my M4, fresh installed windows on it and downgraded bios from A10 to A08.

    I run a test on the M4 and here is the result:

    [​IMG]

    Why are my scores on the "write" column almost just half of the "read"?
    I just noticed that most of the test scores posted here are kind of balance.

    Thanks.

    Btw, how do you guys embed just the thumbnail? :confused:
     
  15. bigtonyman

    bigtonyman Desktop Powa!!!

    Reputations:
    2,377
    Messages:
    5,040
    Likes Received:
    277
    Trophy Points:
    251
    looks pretty good to me.here is mine. :)

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Feb 6, 2015
  16. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

    Reputations:
    7,383
    Messages:
    8,222
    Likes Received:
    182
    Trophy Points:
    231
    I'm thinking if the 7970s are priced decent, selling my 5870's and 6990s on ebay, I can get a pair of 7970's. Just need to find out if they will work in the R2 lol.
     
  17. SlickDude80

    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    3,262
    Messages:
    4,997
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    106
    what is the mxm slot in the R2? 3.0? what is your power brick wattage?

    I didn't need any special mods to get it to work in the R3, it was just trying to install the drivers that was a pain. All current production drivers will not work with the 7970m.
     
  18. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

    Reputations:
    7,383
    Messages:
    8,222
    Likes Received:
    182
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Ahh, I believe it's MXM 3.0. I know the 6990s work on it. The 7970 may need some bios flashing to undervolt, but that should be easy enough. the PSU is rated at 240W, but can go higher, although too high and throttling will occur. The fact that it works in the R3, and power consumption is the same, gives me hope the R2 will take it. Especially since there are no changes to the layout so the heatsink from the 5870s/6990s can be used.

    Is the 7970 a smaller die? If it's not a smaller die, then I think it may draw too much power for the R2. Slick Do you by chance have wattage draw numbers of the 7970 vs. the 6990? If I can get them working in the R2, that would make the R2 a continued living beast! Even undervolted, can you imagine how the R2 would bench in Vantage? It would be sick! Probably worth selling the 5870s and losing my warranty :p

    As far as drivers, That can always be modded with the device ID so they will install if I'm not mistaken.
     
  19. quickie

    quickie Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    61
    Messages:
    515
    Likes Received:
    191
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Have you tried to official release drivers for the 7970 they are out on amd's website.
     
  20. SlickDude80

    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    3,262
    Messages:
    4,997
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    106
    The power draw on the 7970 is up to 100w.

    There is a cool turbo feature on these cards that will overclock them...something similar to intel turbo boost 2.0...upto 100w

    As far as drivers, there are hacked drivers now at benchmark3d that support the 7970m. Regular inf mods didn't work with any official amd drivers from 12.1 to 12.3...i'm currently using heavily modded 12.5.

    There are new strings in the inf that are different for the 7900m's
     
  21. jinda

    jinda Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    174
    Messages:
    571
    Likes Received:
    35
    Trophy Points:
    41
  22. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

    Reputations:
    1,491
    Messages:
    1,232
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Getting mine from Table21, he might have run out..

    I will be using my Nvidia heatsink with it, and a correct AMD backplate. Hope it all goes well.
     
  23. long2905

    long2905 Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    2,443
    Messages:
    2,314
    Likes Received:
    114
    Trophy Points:
    81
    Yeah, thats what i intend to do as well. Hopefully 580M heatsink will keep this beast cool. (typing on ipad, argh)
     
  24. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

    Reputations:
    1,491
    Messages:
    1,232
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Sorry but only one person can wear the crown. :p

    Edit - never mind, thought I saw a bit of competition there. Too excited.

    Fingers crossed I get the best possible sample (lol).
     
  25. long2905

    long2905 Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    2,443
    Messages:
    2,314
    Likes Received:
    114
    Trophy Points:
    81
    By all means man, i have no intention to compete anymore :p
     
  26. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

    Reputations:
    3,079
    Messages:
    4,207
    Likes Received:
    168
    Trophy Points:
    131
    What crown? :D We'll see...
     
  27. SlickDude80

    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    3,262
    Messages:
    4,997
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    106
    technically, i currently hold the single card crown ;)

    20,256 vantage
    5600 3dmark11, 6125 with tess off
     
  28. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

    Reputations:
    7,383
    Messages:
    8,222
    Likes Received:
    182
    Trophy Points:
    231
    I'll hold the dual card crown in this thread. Assuming I can offload my current GPUs for enough the get dual 7970s :D
     
  29. quickie

    quickie Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    61
    Messages:
    515
    Likes Received:
    191
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Have you played witcher 2 with the card? Does it run really smooth?
     
  30. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

    Reputations:
    11,536
    Messages:
    19,469
    Likes Received:
    12,882
    Trophy Points:
    931
    holding out for the 680m....
     
  31. Red Line

    Red Line Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    1,109
    Messages:
    1,289
    Likes Received:
    141
    Trophy Points:
    81
    Will we see some 7970M overclocked results in the near future, fellas? Seems like there's a bunch of new AMD card owners in M17x lounge)
     
  32. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

    Reputations:
    1,491
    Messages:
    1,232
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    56
    When Trixx and GPU-Z are supported then you'll see loads :)
     
  33. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

    Reputations:
    7,383
    Messages:
    8,222
    Likes Received:
    182
    Trophy Points:
    231
    How about some vbios flashing? Is it not supported by ATI flash? Anyone one try yet?
     
  34. SlickDude80

    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    3,262
    Messages:
    4,997
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    106
    the 7970 is about as good as it gets for the witcher2...my test was the mieletes heart (sp?) mission. Running around in the forest outside the walls and inside the city..

    Killing monsters in the forest, i'm getting 45-55fps...occasionally dropping to high 30's but i've never dropped below the magical 30fps mark. In other words, SMOOTH gameplay. This is not a scientific test, but the 7970m has allowed me to enable bloom, depth of field and a few other effects that i had to shut off with my 6990 to create a playable framerate

    1080p, everything enabled except for uber sampling

    The problem with early adoption is you have zero app and driver support lol...the drivers we are using are slapped together. GPUz doesn't work. It was suggested to pull the vbios out using atiflash and a bootable usb, but I'll leave that to GEO when he gets his card.

    if it is consistent with the desktop 7900's, vbios is not moddable because the catalyst driver blocks it. There will be lots more coming I'm sure ;)
     
  35. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

    Reputations:
    1,491
    Messages:
    1,232
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    56
    If no-one attempts ATIflash by Friday, I will. I am busy all week so I have to wait to get my card till Friday 'cause I can't open the damn door... -_-'
     
  36. SlickDude80

    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    3,262
    Messages:
    4,997
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    106
    I have confirmation from the author of RBE that it does not support 7900 bios modding
     
  37. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

    Reputations:
    1,491
    Messages:
    1,232
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    56
    That's a shame for R2 users wanting an undervolt and a shame for us R3 users that it can't be overvolted. Still, I am not complaining. :p
     
  38. SlickDude80

    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    3,262
    Messages:
    4,997
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    106
    i'm still sure that someone will come up with something...maybe someone can circumvent the catalyst driver blocking vbios mods.

    ATI has implemented their own overclocking scheme though. I wish i had a real working driver lol
     
  39. long2905

    long2905 Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    2,443
    Messages:
    2,314
    Likes Received:
    114
    Trophy Points:
    81
    Hey slickdude can you try to plug your laptop into a TV and/or gaming console or dvd/bluray player to see if the HDMI input/output is working properly?
     
  40. SlickDude80

    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    3,262
    Messages:
    4,997
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    106
    i just tested it...HDMI in/out and audio is working perfectly. My Sharp Aquos tv is recognized in the AMD drivers
     
  41. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

    Reputations:
    11,536
    Messages:
    19,469
    Likes Received:
    12,882
    Trophy Points:
    931
    does this vender still have any cards left?

    and great job slick, can't rep ya now, but will when i can.
     
  42. long2905

    long2905 Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    2,443
    Messages:
    2,314
    Likes Received:
    114
    Trophy Points:
    81
    nice!
    you can try either table21 or upgradeyourlaptop on ebay. I'm pretty sure upgradeyourlaptop still receives orders. Table21 hasnt signed back in since last night.
     
  43. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

    Reputations:
    11,536
    Messages:
    19,469
    Likes Received:
    12,882
    Trophy Points:
    931
    it says upgradeyourlaptop doesnt have any.
     
  44. SlickDude80

    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    3,262
    Messages:
    4,997
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    106
    thanks johnksss, i sent an inquiry earlier today. Unfortunately, half of nbr has flooded the suppliers with requests lol... I'll let you know when i hear something

    BTW...got word that they tested 3dmark11 on xfire 7970's in an ES m18x R2...and got a GPU score over 11500 without real drivers. Should be interesting...
     
  45. bigtonyman

    bigtonyman Desktop Powa!!!

    Reputations:
    2,377
    Messages:
    5,040
    Likes Received:
    277
    Trophy Points:
    251
    that's pretty sweet :D
     
  46. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

    Reputations:
    11,536
    Messages:
    19,469
    Likes Received:
    12,882
    Trophy Points:
    931
    i probablly would have already bought one, but i bought all my ivy bridge stuff for my desktop over clocking... :(

    good things coming our way i see. very nice indeed!
     
  47. lastshady

    lastshady Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    100
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    31
    11500 with oc?
     
  48. SlickDude80

    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    3,262
    Messages:
    4,997
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    106
    no OC, unless they have some secret drivers that I don't know about...we don't have the ability OC these cards right now
     
  49. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

    Reputations:
    11,536
    Messages:
    19,469
    Likes Received:
    12,882
    Trophy Points:
    931
    i wouldnt quite say that....quite a few things to try and manipulate...you know...lol
     
  50. lastshady

    lastshady Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    100
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    31
    if a single 7970m is 6000 in 3dmark 2011
    x-fire 7970m = 11500!? thats about 100% more power
    I know crossfire is scaling well but not that much though lol :)
    That looks like iced ehh oc'ed. When will we see screens of that monster?
     
← Previous pageNext page →