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    *OFFICIAL* Alienware 17 and M17x Benchmark Thread - Part 4

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by BatBoy, Mar 11, 2011.

  1. Johnksss

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    yeah, it's pretty weird. For all sakes and purposes...it should be the same. He is definitely working on it, but again...Only 3 well known people are working on this sort of thing....
     
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    LOL :D

    but that mod was sure an overkill
     
  3. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist®

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    Throttling is dependent on the settings used. Too much core, too much memory, or too much voltage is going to cause a throttle. This may be to protect people from themselves... or more accurately, to protect the cards from people doing the wrong thing to them. (Better to throttle than to fry your GPU.) The Dell cards don't throttle if you don't use the wrong settings. The Clevo cards can also throttle if the wrong settings are used. If you go too high in the core or memory clock in 3DMark11 Test #1, one can cancel out the other and lead to a lower score due to throttling. This also depends on the benchmark or game you are running. The ideal overclock even varies between test segments in the same benchmark. For example, what works best in Test #1 might not produce the best result for Test #2, and so on. Experiment with increasing core and decreasing memory and vice versa and see which works best. Overclocking the CPU can also affect the GPU score. A higher CPU overclock can produce a higher GPU score as well. This is where having an XM CPU can help a lot because they can be overclocked higher and it starts to show up in the GPU score going up along with the CPU score.

    To see something interesting, start both of these videos at the same time... the overclock on core and memory are very similar in the actual benchmark results.

     
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    this was with +75 on core and +0 on memory
     
  7. Eldaren

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    I'm still trying to understand how some users (including myself) get 6400 GPU stock and others get 5900-6200 using the same drivers. Both my Dell and Clevo 680m's score exactly the same stock.
     
  8. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    It's weird. I when stock, both my Dell one and my Clevo one score reasonably high, about 6k but when OC'd vs someone else's Clevo card clock for clock mine is slower. So it could be to do with your mobo power delivery of windows installation. Honestly, there are just too many variables to fuss about. Not worrying about it until I get the 3940XM.
     
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    Eldaren Notebook Evangelist

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    What's your best score so far widezu? I recently got my 680m back (last one died after 1 day of light use) and my best score is in my sig.
     
  10. widezu69

    widezu69 Goodbye Alienware

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    I'm not 100% sure. Lower than yours even though I have higher clocks. My physX scores are higher even though we have the same CPU as my RAM is running @1866mhz C9. But my GPU scores are definitely lower.
     
  11. SeasideGR

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    Hi and many thanks for your post.

    Since you seem the right guy after reading your post (with no offense to the rest of the members here) i would like please to help me if you can.

    I have here some cheapish 2GB Samsung 1333 modules.

    I don't dare to tell what laptop i have since it would be "a poor competitor " in front of the ROG and Alienware laptops.

    Few questions if you please

    Can i try to flash my modules to 1600MHZ to test them with my CPU ?

    If i buy the 2x8GB Vengeance Kit is it safe to flash @ 1866MHz with the Corsair profile ?

    Do i have to buy the full version of the program ?

    Also TechPowerUP has a VGA Bios database.

    Is there a database with memory profiles too ? Or a database with mobile GPU cards ?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  12. LeoVainio

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    Hey guys :)

    Dno if this is the right place to ask... but if anybody could give me just a few tips on overclocking that would be awesome :D just wanna be sure about how much to overclock and if it needs to be in some sort of intervals etc, so if anybody could PM me and I could ask a couple questions I'd really appreciate it :)
     
  13. HaloGod2012

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    is there any way to measure the total power consumption of the laptop?
    just to be sure that my overclocks don't put strain on the power adapter.
    can we measure it on the laptop itself?
    core temp shows the power consumption of the processor only, i think its pretty accurate.
     
  16. Quagmire LXIX

    Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!

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    Kill a Watt Meter

    Search around for a better price, usually can find it <$20 shipped.
     
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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    got one of those myself, very neat tool if u ask me :)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
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    thanks a lot!
    i will look these up at my local electronic store
     
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    kakaroth1977 Notebook Geek

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    the HyperX DDR3 CL12 2133mhz works at full speed on M17xr4 i7 3840qm ?

    Which is the fastest ssd mSata for R4 ? Works on sata II or III ?
     
  22. DDDenniZZZ

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    I'm pretty sure the mSATA port runs at SATA II so any SATA II or III card would be fine, most likely limited by the bus speed.
     
  23. Arai

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    This is after over volting my 7970m, I can't push the core or memory any further as it will freeze up.
    So you could say this is as far as I go on a voltage of 1.075, the result aren't so bad.
    Could have gotten some extra points if my CPU was running at 3.9GHz+ (OC'd to 40,39,38,38).
    This is about 2000+ points in 3D Mark compared to the original stock drivers I had gotten in May.

    Core: 1000 MHz
    Memory: 1670 MHz
    3D Mark 11 P score: 7673

    AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3720QM Processor,Alienware M17xR4 score: P7673 3DMarks

    Max Temp on GPU 84c under FurMark stress test.
     
  24. bigtonyman

    bigtonyman Desktop Powa!!!

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    very nice score!!!! :)
     
  25. jaybee83

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    have u tried lowering the memory clock to stock, then pushing the core as far as it can possibly go and then check for the max. possible memory clock at that OCed core clock?

    core OC brings much more of a perf. boost than mem OC, so i would always OC the core first without touching the mem and only then try the mem. otherwise the heat generated from the present mem OC will artificially limit the core OC ability!

    cheers
     
  26. Arai

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    Yeah I tried some settings on stock voltage as well as on 1.075v, but my core starts to have an heart attack the moment I go above 1000.
    I tried 1005,1010,1020, 1050, 1100 they all fail, I don't have a laptop cooler at the moment so that's my only assumption.
     
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    kakaroth1977 , tried 2133Mhz ram and the laptop won't boot! are there anybody who could make the RAM work on M17xR4?
     
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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    mythlogic also posted that those 2133 mhz ram sticks dont work in clevo machines either.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
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    may i ask you how you make it work the mem 1670?? :)
     
  32. Red Line

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    jaybee83, that's correct, tried it - no luck( seems there're only M18xR2 users who can get most of their systems with 2133Mhz ram working

    also, doesn't seem to make that high of the CPU/Physics score as you guys... with 3720qm at stock or OC through bios it still stays at around 7500 for CPU and 6500 for Physics no matter what i do. it's on par with 3610QM! what am i doing wrong? tnx
     
  33. Arai

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    Every GPU works slightly different than the other, though they are all the same.
    Some can take more than others, I didn't use any cooling methods to achieve 1670Mhz.
    I haven't tried under volting the GPU so hard to say at this point if I can push it any further.
    Beside it was just for benchmarking purposes, for gaming I use 950/1450 which is stable for me (BF3 and the likes).

    So to answer your question I got lucky :)
     
  34. kolias

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    i mean that when i oc via ccc or msi afterburner the tool bar its maxed out at 1560,no further. :confused:
     
  35. Arai

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    Raise the bar to 1560, click apply, press X (top right to close), restart AfterBurner ---> a lot more potential!
     
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    totally stock no overclocking (just received machine yesterday!)

    3dmark11

    P6189

    3DMarks with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M(1x) and Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz 6mb ddr3 1600mhz ram, 500gb HD

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz,Alienware M17xR4 score: P6189 3DMarks

    going to install new nvidia drivers and let you all know how it does :)

    heh beta drivers made it worse!

    P6179
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5078692



    Still stock-----newest beta drivers made it better, so that's a relief

    P6341 using the Nvidia 310.64 drivers
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5117243

    still seems low for the GPU though
     
  38. Codenamefa

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    Figured i would update that the my little beast has completed its goal with 5% overclock on the cpu and 20% overclock on the video card, all stock volts i pulled a 4107 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-950 Processor,Alienware score: P4107 3DMarks altho no idea why it says i7 950 lol dang 3dmark for not reading the cpu correctly

    I'd also like to note that I'm getting the same results as reborn on his r2, with an oem i7 920xm i'm getting fan speeds, like idle, mild use, and kill-o-blast, don't know how they did it but I guess OEM is the way to get these beasts to behave with alternate gpu's in them. Mind you its only 3 fan speeds.

    2 new Benchies for you guys to look at
    25% overclock on gpu and multipliers at 27x and fsb at 146
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5191213
    30% overclock on gpu and multipliers at 27x and fsb at 146
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5191243
     
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    What's your room temp?
     
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    cpu temp is completely fine if u ask me :) should only start worrying at 90+ temps
     
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    I live in South East Asia, so the average room temp is 25-26 degrees Celsius.

    Oh okay. :) If you don't mind, what's your cpu temp on full load?
     
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    Full load you mean running something like WPrime? mine topped at 77-78. Playing FarCry 3 1,5 hours long - highest temp across the cores was 68 degrees C.
     
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    somewhere in the high 70s to low 80s using prime95 with max. heat generation mode. altho ill have to add that i, using a modded bios with elevated turbo boost wattage limits for the cpu ;)
     
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    Wow you're getting some high scores brother Fox, great job!

    You've got yourself a golden beast there.
     
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    Yep, AW came through on the R2....Well, more so to svl7. :)

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
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    Nice scores! I was hoping when you said R2 you were refering to the M17x R2 :p
     
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    yeah, my bad DR! :D
     
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    So I did a clean install of windows,
    And i noticed my CPU temps are higher compared to the last time.
    I ran a stress stest from AlienAutopsy Software, and here are the results.
    [​IMG]

    here's the result before clean install:
    wxuPZ.png

    Do you think I messed something up on my clean install? :confused:

    EDIT: temps after playing left4dead2 just now:
    [​IMG]

    :confused:
     
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