*OFFICIAL* M17x Benchmark Thread - Part 3

I would say that is a start.It would be nice if they played the new dx11 games like metro with all the bells and whistles without being choppy.

 

Lol, 7 months passed since the first similar statement.
Another 7 months and you'll be saying the same about SB and the current platform will become obsolete, hehe.
And Scook will keep enjoying his cool and powerful C2Q and 2.5hr battery life.

And don't forget that most big players in gaming industry are waist deep in consoles, and those are not getting a refresh anytime soon.

 

For starters, yes

 

Btw, tried APB Beta (Unreal 3 Engine) in the morning and works very well, no stuttering apart from occasional v-sync issues. There's no benchmark in the game options yet, so I can't give any numbers until I get home today and put FRAPS.

I couldn't get GTAIV to work, it just crashed every time, but maybe that has to do with the fact that I just copied the GTAIV folder from my other computer and didn't do a fresh install.

 

The problem here is more of a question if Dell will ever update the vbios. It seems in other brands the 5870 are set to run with 1.15v and 1.05 is used in Dell. Would they make an update that changes that... I have strong doubts. As far as I know and I may be wrong but Dell never issued a GPU bios revision only driver updates...

 

has anybody tried to mod the bios and see if that helps?

 

Updating the vbios to 1.15v, is that something that can be done through software? Or would they have to change a resistor on the card? If software, if we make a big enough noise they should do it, yes?

 

I know you can change it on the 4870 by using a ati vbios editor in windows then just flash the new vbios to the card.I dont know if it is possible on the 5870.

 

anybody feeling adventurous? I'm on vacation and can't even touch the new lappy right now.

 

joker said he flashed the cards, with higher clocks and voltages, 900/1000 i believe

 

Joker updated the vbios to run at 1.10v and then overclocked his cards. From the bench he did it seems it was quite stable.

 

Are we talking 16K GPU, or 16K overall composite score?

 

He's talking GPU since TheCodeBreaker (I'm shortening it to just "Code" from now on ) hit 15K already.

 

LOL, yes Code sounds nice I wanted to see a huge difference, but i got 14.5K on the gpu and joker got 14.8K on the gpu

 

You pulled off a 14K GPU Vantage run on 4870s, didn't you Mandrake?

 

Just you wait, something will come out that will awaken all of our Orthrus'

 

Im hoping for it. I plan on getting another system and switching the cpu and giving this one for my little brother

 

Well damn its about time theres someone else with a little optimism for these cards!

Besides the wattage and vbios,(maybe CCC?) what else is holding the cards back?

 

I am still not convinced that Dell will spend time and resources for us by updating the vbios and drivers for the 5870's.

 

I believe its either the vbios or the bios. Most probably the bios, i hate the way we can't get the most out of these systems.

 

I know it's not acceptable, I mean we are buying an "All powerful" laptop not some Sony junk out of best buy.

Those cards should not be limited in such way.

 

Where's all the action! How many here on the forum have their CF 5870's, should be quite a few....so...

 

I was thinking the same thing.Where the benchies at.

 

Joker did quite a few and it's during the week so many of us work. You will see more bench over the weekend so many of us will be out for memorial weekend therefore you might see bench by early next week...

 

Well I can do wow and starcraft 2, but I havent bought a new pc game in a while, they've all been 360 games(sold my xbox to buy an ssd )
Il pirate bay metro and me2 or something

 

Yes.......

 

Well, with some nasty OC, the 5870s should hit 16K. I must say that I'm not a fan of the absolute highest achievable benchmark score though. I'd like to see what a given GPU can be reliably OC'd to for daily use without severely degrading it's lifespan.

 

I'm waiting for someone to OC the memory on these cards by 50mhz and 100mhz to see what kind of difference that makes. No one seems to want to do it, so I guess we're going to have to wait around 2 weeks to find out when I get my CF 5870's.

 

You should have a contest for the first to hit 16K with the CF 5870's...

 

If I had a set, I'd do it. Joker's been doing some overclocking/overvolting I thought?

 

Unfortunately there seems to be little interest in benchmarking contests. When I had a contest for creating a new avi there were a lot more entries.

 

The reason I don't personally participate in benchmark contests anymore is because of my CPU. Unless you've got the highest CPU, your composite Vantage/'06 score will suffer considerably. I know it would be a lot of BS for you to redo the lists, but I think you'd have more participation if the scores were separated into CPU and GPU. That way folks like myself that don't have a quad core could still compete for a high GPU score.

 

Well we are approaching 2500 posts here. Maybe it's time for a change.

 

Yes, its time for a change. New benchmark thread

 

That works. Let's do it. PM me if you need any help Mandrake.

 

Already ran it at 1100 memory a few minutes ago, it made little to no difference in vantage. Oh and I agree about the vantage benchmark contests, they're useless if the overall score is the determining factor since very few people have extreme CPU's. Also, it defeats the purpose when people use LOD cheats to get higher scores.

 

Edit: doh outposted

 

Its still better and cheaper then buyig nvidia cards

 

Well Joker what's your position on the 5870x2? Do you think that in time we will be able to achieve higher marks from these cards? Or do you think that Dell has put too many limits in place?

 

I really don't know. I'm hoping it's just the drivers holding the cards back. Because right now at stock clocks they're not performing much better than the 4870s.

 

Did you report that to AW? You have some contacts there right...

 

what is a LOD cheat? so is cf 5870 living up to all the hype, as a single its really awesome.

 

I was hoping maybe Dan would want to do it since he's already doing the M11x and M15x benchmarking threads.

 

Yeah save for the minimum fps right? I guess that does have an affect on gameplay to an extent... Guess we will just have to wait and see... BUT you did see a pretty extensive jump between the two when you flashed em soo.. If the stock clocks are supposed to be better one can only assume that the OC on newer drivers would be past say what you got 14.7k?

Might as well be him for that one too lol..

 

In min. fps the 5870s are easily getting between 10-20% higher than dual 4870s. In avg and max fps, they're neck and neck. I'll record a L4d 2 demo tonight and run it on both for comparison but I'm not expecting a big difference there since the game isn't too demanding.

Oh by the way guys, Dell likely went with 1.05v as default vs 1.1v because of this: http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/3073/torturetest.jpg

I wasn't able to do the above test with my old R2 that had a 920xm + dual 4870s + rgb led because it would start flickering/throttling (too much power draw). I'd be curious to see if this still happens for those of you with a 920xm + dual 5870s. Mine was flicker free this time with the 820qm.

 

Anyone try out Intel Overclock Software yet?

 Intel® Desktop Control Center

 

Weren't you able to change the voltage with a vbios flash or was that the clocks only?

 

So staying at 1.05v what was the max stable OC you were able to get?

 

Yeah I was able to change it to 1.1v and AMD GPU Tool confirmed it. But I really don't see the point in running these at 1.1v. They're perfectly stable up to 860 mhz (maybe more) on mine at 1.05v. The problem is, the performance doesn't scale as well as it should with the core increase. It would be nice if those with 920xm's could test their systems out by raising the core clock and then running vantage to compare. They're getting 13.5k gpu out of the box so obviously the CPU is playing a role there somehow.

 

I am guessing you refer to the 90+ degrees temps.
A cooler might help...