*OFFICIAL* M17x Benchmark Thread - Part 3

How do you guys score this high... I am still struggling with going past 11.5k, is there a post about how to look at the cables of 5870 cf? GPU-Z shows both working at core 700 and memory 1000 for games...

 

lots and lots and lots of cooling to prevent throttling does wonders.

edit:
anyone have fan control problems? The CPU fan doesn't seem to want to kick up to high until it reaches 80C(it won't even get that high @ stock clocks with all 8 threads working)... and it only reaches 80C with throttle stop =.=''

 

Like what? I understand the concept about throttling, now how can I prevent it? Like what kind of cooling please?

 

A laptop fan, or if you wnat to go extreme use a portable AC unit or a fridge instead

 

Just checked your 3dmark06 score, my goddess, how come 4870 cf with a little OC gets that high of a score? Is that due to the CPU? I have tried AMD GPU tools according to your guide, but I think it is due to lack of voltage, screen just blacked out for me. Any OC suggestions?

 

06 is mostly CPU dependent

I got over 20k with stock gpus

 

^^^^brag =)

is true though the score on mine, i could clock the gpus all the way to 705/1130 and the best i could get was like 15890 until throttle stop & Setfsb =) i got basically the same score with my gpus @ 695 & at 655 as long as my cpu was around 3.8ghz. you should focus on vantage, beacuse the 720 is a meager cpu and not really worth benching unless your going to do some serious tweaking.

 

Well, my vantage score is merely
3DMark Score P11223
CPU Score 9930
Graphics Score 11732

Is that an acceptable score with i7-720?

On a quick note, the heaven benchmark (unigine):

Heaven Benchmark v2.1
FPS: 30.9
Scores: 779
Min FPS: 7.7
Max FPS: 77.4

Hardware
Binary: Windows 32bit Visual C++ 1500 Release May 21 2010
Operating system: Windows 7 (build 7600) 64bit
CPU model: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60GHz
CPU flags: 1596MHz MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 SSE41 SSE42 HTT
GPU model: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 8.692.2.0 CrossFireX 1024Mb

Settings
Render: direct3d11
Mode: 1920x1200 fullscreen
Shaders: high
Textures: high
Filter: trilinear
Anisotropy: 4x
Occlusion: enabled
Refraction: enabled
Volumetric: enabled
Replication: disabled
Tessellation: normal

I wonder if that looks normal (I am really close to the deadline after which I can only get parts instead of making changes, so I need to know that I have something normal to start tweaking or just ask dell support for a pair of new cards). Thank you again for your help!

 

3dmark06 is highly cpu dependant.

Im assuming you have 5870s. Did you try the furmark trick?

 

stock the gpu should be around 12.5-13k. might have an issue i would do a clean install of windows re-installing the drivers. there is a list of them & you can download them in the R2 owners lounge.

 

Negative, with a i720QM those numbers are Just about normal. He probably doesn't have the CCC settings to high performance, which should give him a few hundred more points. I only managed 12,092 in vantage completely stock with a a few services disabled on Dell 10.5's, which is funny since that's * finally* higher than my P8700 R1 with 280m's LOL.

 

I was doing some benchruns tonight. Can't upload the screen shots since I left the laptop in my office but here is what I remember

3DMark01 SE: 31,166
3DMark06: 14,189, Maybe higher, can't remember
Vantage: 11,466 Can't remember

The numbers are in that ballpark. Thats all with the i5 520 CPU and stock drivers off the Dell Website

I had GPU's flashed between 850/1100 up to 880/1220. Memory can probably go higher, but I was doing reports at the same time so my efforts were split Going to try and get more benching programs working. Also going to try and get as many benching programs as I can manage.

 

I have a 720QM, which I'm reading over and over in this thread is NOT a great synthetic benchmarking CPU. I'm mostly interested in real-world numbers though, and would like to know out of the 820 920 or 940 what is going to provide the best real-world performance. Or is the 720 acceptable for gaming? I don't want to pay ~$650 for an ES 940 and end up getting +2 frames per second over the 720. The money is in the bank, and I'm researching as much as I can before I purchase a new CPU. Any benchmarks or links are greatly appreciated. Someone who's run the 720 and then upgraded would be a good source of information.

 

I would have to say the 820/840QM is the best choice, but the 720QM is still good enough for many games out there. You wont see much difference between the 720QM and 820QM but if it was me i would go with the 840QM, for the extra 2mb of cache and the higher frequency.

 

Get a 920xm from ebay, it's around $470 and a very good choice.

 

I actually PM'd you a couple of days ago regarding this very subject Joker. Guess you finally told me what I wanted to know .

 

My PM's are disabled.

 

yeah.. which is a 4 thread cpu that runs @ 3ghz+ compared to the 2.8ghz 720. They're essentially the same processor as far as vantage is concerned, a 155mhz FSB overclock netted me 300 points.. I'm sure the difference between a 540 and 720 are less than that.


edit: the black cryo LX is back in stock @ newegg, get yours before they're gone again!

 

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A few updates for the i5 and the 4870's, just kind of experimenting a little bit more with the clocks, but there is still some left in there. Will sit down when I have more time to try a few more things out and start fine tuning.

 

Nice runs, but at those clocks I did 700 more points on GPU, try to catch me!

Definitely awesome for a dual core though. Shame we done have anyone pushing a 620m as hard

 

Which Furmark trick? Kinda new to this, sorry if that has been answered already.

 

How can I set it into high performance? Which parameters should I change? And what is that catalyst AI? I have read that some ppl have to set it to standard for better performance. Thank you.

 

I plan to be doing a bit more benching after the 10.7's come out because since i swapped to 10.6's i can't break 19k anymore.
I know i can get more out of it and i think a new stable driver will be the key.
Its a shame i can't boost the stock voltage of teh cpu beyond what's in the bios becauseif i use setfsb to set it any higher than 3240mhz it'll lock up and throttlestop only influences turbo limits not base limits.
If anyone has any ideas about how i could sqeeze more out of my 620m im open.

 

Have you played with the latest version of ThrottleStop? It is rather powerful now thanks to the developer

Also, calling the 620m a dual core is misleading since it does have 4 virtual cores due to hyperthreading

 

Heres What I've done so far with the i5 520 CPU.

3DMark2001 SE - 31,135


3DMark06 - 14,166


3DMark Vantage - 11,677 GPU 14,087, CPU 7,717



I'm getting screen flickering with Vantage. Not sure which BIOS i'm running, what ever came with it. I think A05.

Oh and when the "New Calico" GPU test 2 is loading, the bottom half of the screen is shaking. I'm assuming thats the slave GPU?

 

hmm i suppose that's true but that's also like calling the atom n330 a quad core . Besides sometimes hyperthreading has no benefit at all. Also i think as the rest of the i7's are true quadcores that the distinction is necessary. Suppose i could add HT after it tho .

On the throttlestop note i'll have a look, thanks. And thanks to unclewebb for making such a great program.

 

Another issue I'm having is the screen not waking up.
Another one was when I had it pluged into an external monitor for a benching setup. Once 3dMark06 switched scenes and the screen cuts out for a sec it would lock up as if I had closed and opened the lid

 

I finally fixed the Update BCLK feature in ThrottleStop today. Thanks to Mr Pras for bringing that to my attention.

Correct SetFSB support is still on the things to do list. I highly recommend upgrading to version 2.74 if you have a Core i CPU.

oogamar: Are you using ThrottleStop yet to adjust the TDP/TDC values? For one user, that worked for his Core i7-620M. That can give a big boost in performance to the 920XM/940XM but it might also help a little with the dual cores when benching.

 

Yes i have used it and it does help in maintaining max turbo speeds however i seem to have hit a brick wall in terms of how high i can set the default speed with setfsb. If i set the bus speed any higher than 162 is bsods which i find intereting considering that people with i5s have been able to push over 170 - its probably the higher multiplier and thus same clocks with a lower bus peak.
I believe the only way around it is to increase the base voltage (but how i dont know) and because the turbo multipliers are locked it means that the impact of the tdp/tdc increase is limited to the default multipliers.

 

Well, here is my current activity. Swapping in the 920XM CPU for some benching. Imight go back later and work more with the i5 520, but I'm eager to get the 920 in and see what it can do.

Going to repaste the CPU with Arctic Silver 5 until I get the 940XM in, then I'll use IC Diamond on that. Going to be putting in new thermal pads on everything and IC Diamond on the GPU's.

On the monitor the 920XM is on the left, 940XM on the right and 520 in the system. Not like you can really tell though

 

which pads/supplier did you decide to go with? Would you say they're closer to 1.0mm or 1.5mm? I didn't have anything to compare them to so I had to guess the last time I was looking at them :/

considered doing some of the 5.0W/m-K from bergquist, but they're ~ $60 for a tiny sheet of the stuff.

 

Will it also help significantly with 840QM?

 

It should work there as well as it would on any other non-extreme cpu

 

ThrottleStop won't do anything for an i7-820QM since it is not an Extreme CPU unless your CPU is being throttled when fully loaded. It's always a good idea to run a log file with ThrottleStop to make sure when your CPU and GPU are fully utilized that the bios isn't using clock modulation throttling or multiplier throttling and killing your performance. If you don't have throttling problems then you can drag ThrottleStop to your folder of testing programs for future use. If you're not sure what the log file says while you are gaming or whatever then upload it somewhere and send me a link so I can have a look. I've seen enough log files that it's usually pretty easy to spot a problem.

Today it helped to discover that Dell was killing performance of the M15x while on battery power by using chipset clock modulation so the CPU was being limited to a maximum of only a quarter of its rated speed. That made for a sluggish laptop on battery power but the user updated his bios and I think that issue has been fixed.

The way Dell has been cutting corners on a variety of models, users have to do some testing and keep an eye on them at all times.

 

Will throttlestop be able to change the voltage (but obviously not multiplier) on non extreme models? That would be VERY helpful to me

 

And me
If that were possible i could really see what this 620m can do.

 

Hi friends; well, by suggestion and the great help of Aikimox i made the 3dmark6 benchmark, i decide to post it here to dont bother to much to my friend mentioned above . . .
Guys, i got an horrible performance and i am not sure why, please be nice, is not like your mahicnes ; specs on sight

This one is with 1920*1800, and no extra things enabled

http://i29.tinypic.com/afbqxk.png

And this one is with 1080*1024 and no extra things enabled

http://i31.tinypic.com/2rom2bq.png

I am using Ati CCC 10.6, but i really have no idea about how to config it, also, i have no idea how to configure my machine to get the berst performance it could

http://i25.tinypic.com/2uswu8o.png

I dont have words for the great work you do here, so, thanks so much

 

That score is too low to be anything but stealthmode...did you make sure stealthmode is disabled?

 

I think im not, cause when i press the stealth mode buttom on the pad this ask me to activate it:



Then, i click on no and i guess im not . . or i do ?
Thanks for your help and time

 

If you go into the Alienware Command Center it should tell you if it is enabled or not

That is just too low a score, even if you are only running one card it would be much higher

 

Yo were right too dude, i was on stealht mode and i dont know why i didnt notice it before, what a fail

My scores are now reasing up:

http://i27.tinypic.com/15j3m8.png

Im ok now ?
Thanks

 

it can be tricky. You know now how to tell, but an OSD display saying stealth more will pop up once it's on(it won't when it's turned off), and when it's turned off down at the taskbar a small window will say that high performance mode will be engaged, or something similar.

 

Intel does not publicly document how to change voltage on any of the newer Core i CPUs and I haven't figured anything out yet. They have changed the register that used to control this in the Core 2 and have said that it's not possible to do this anymore. Some bios versions let you adjust core voltage so I'm not sure how true that statement is. I'm sure someone will crack this someday.

 

What would be the advantage to adjusting the voltage, and not the multiplier? I recently just started messing with the R2 and these core-i cpus are totally new to me. Still trying to understand how to OC them other than the 5% in the BIOS

 

.15V is simply a very small amount to increase it by. more voltage = more stability at higher speeds generally. However, the Heatsink in the M17x isn't all that great, so unless you're doing the freezer box technique more voltage will just heat up the processor way too fast.

 

To go past the 5% OC you need the setfsb to adjust the BCLK (see joker's post for more details) the throttle stop for me was more helpful though since it lets you adjust the TDP (even with the BIOS 5% OC without extra voltage or using the setfsb I got 23.483 for 3DMark06) also ELEET was much of a help
Check the CPU Vantage score with 3% OC http://img651.imageshack.us/i/fourthrunthrottlestop.png/

 

Your refering to the 150mv in the bios correct? Ok I get the stability part, I just didn't realize the point, I never have a stability problem at least not yet with the 920. Then again I havn't had much time to play with it. Only done the 5% so far. GOtta read the whole SetFSB thing since I just got the validation code from Abo.

 

My interest is for overclocking locked multiplier cpus like the Q9000 in my M17x

I got a desktop ATX motherboard with full overclocking support for socket M stuff but socket P stuff gets overclocked in my M17x and ThrottleStop is the only way to boost that core voltage (I hope)

 

You must be hwbot'ing

 

I take it my CPU is throttling? The run I had before I hit 18K+

I'm still playing catch up here. Spent some time reading 50 pages back. Still trying to figure out how everyone is hitting 20k+ I havn't messed with SetFSB yet, though I got the code for it through Abo




EDIT: I just updated to Build 1.0.2 for vantage, and wow, it's crazy how fast it loads now with an SSD. Used to take forever. Really cuts down the down time between runs.

Might be n00b question, but why does Eleet and CPU-Z report 2 cores, 4 threads? Shouldn't it be twice that?