*OFFICIAL* M17x Benchmark Thread - Part 3

OK, so I was benching the i5 520M with a single GPU in 3DMark06. Here is my actual score from the run. Full desktop shot. I actually saved the result, to submit to orb as well as saved the screen shot. Do I take top honors with a single GPU and i5 520M??

 

I see you have found a bug. I have seen similar bogus scores in the past lol

Core 2 Duos scoring like 67k haha

You can submit that score on the bot but I think someone who just lost a space will contest it and probably get it taken off. Now if it was repeatable, that would help your case but I think we all know it is not fully legit (not calling you a cheater, just not a reliable score lol)

 

haha yea, I tried to repeat it once, not quite sure what happened. I walked away, came back to see if I beat my last score...guess I did I was like ???

I don't think I'll submit it to the bot it'd be a hassle lol. To bad I can't repeat it over and over.

In reality, here is my top single GPU 520M run score. Not a bad score considering the CPU thats scaling the GPUs. Ran it with dual GPUs at the same clocks and only score another 2K pts.
3DMark06: 15,122 - Single GPU i5 520M



Dual GPUs, same settings.
3DMark06: 17,653

 

Now try the 920xm single GPU and go for 18k

I would say 20k but will save that for after you pass 18k lol

If you are worried about bot points, do all the single gpu tests with your best CPU installed as the CPU has no factor in ranking for gpu tests

 

yea, I plan too soon. I'm trying to do every variation, mostly just for comparison's sake. Thatw ay when I sell off a CPU I can't kick myself lol. Might put the 920 back in later today or tommorrow, Got some more CPU tests to run. Particularly the wprimes.

 

Thank you for the links jubbing... sadly i tried most of the ways mentioned and it didnt help, I dont think it could still be stuck in hibernate without the battery or the charge, could it?

Nope, not in the freezer, I was just trying a few tests off my desk. I havent put it in the freezer for quite some time ... Ill try to see what i can do

 

Here's a quick idea that is so crazy it just might work. Upgrade to 10.7 drivers! That or throw it out the window and see how it does lol.

I hope your BIOS is up to date as well.

If all else fails, I suggest calling dell and tell them to make you a goddamn sammich.. or help.. whatever works?

EDIT: Btw.. have you tried pushing the computer some more in benchmarks? You've slipped off the list!

 

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weren't you the one clowning everyone else using AC's??? rotflmao!

glad to see you finally came to your senses!

great run, by the way...next time...do that bench at about 10pm our time and that should make up for the room temp heat. (let ac sit on comp for about 15 minutes, then start in powersave mode. right before the bench, kick it in to high gear and go)

as mr cook said...did you do this while it was in the freezer?
and if you have an extra cpu laying around, i would give that a try as well..

yeah, that 833 is beating dt's by like 3x...lol

great scores! keep it up!

if you can repeat that bug one more time...chances are your screen either got stuck, black screen during test or a major screen tear glitch. i have done that a few times myself. did it in vantage as well. in vantage..when the water starts jumping up towards the sky....the frames start jumping up along with it. the more water leaving the faster you JN will be...a glitch some have tried to use for posting scores and got caught...lol

 

I'm considering doing a different group for each different CPU type, based on the reluctance to bench due to our high scores.

For example:
2 groups: i7, i5

Broken down furthur
i7: 6xx's 7xx's 8xx's 9xx's (9xx is like 940XM and 920XM)

Furthuermore, broken down into highest CPU/GPU scores (I'm debating this one, but it works in the M15x thread.. )

 

Well, worked. I went on leave and it filled like 60 pages+, so I havn't had a chance to update. Havn't been in the m15x section in a long time. Not sure if it's still updated. But I'll warn you that it's a lot of work.

 

sounds like a pretty good idea...
edit:
and dr650se is right...
this is basically a database...which means...constant updating or at least..once every day...

 

Its clearly not a 1 man job, it'll have to be split into 2 parts, but whether or not we go down that route will depend on if I really want to move the thread in that direction, and if there will be enough people to cover those cpus. There are plenty of members, but not everyone benches. For some people the process is much too complicated and I agree.. to an extent.

Of course we could always add gaming benchmarks to the thread as I have seen on other threads to spice up the scoring system. But I agree, its a lot of work, but I'm all for it, and I'm sure one other person would be as well. But we don't need to decide now of course.

 

Whoops, dbl post

 

Here's the highest I've been able to validate the i7 920XM. Hit it yesterday, but it's a pain trying to validate at such unstable clocks.

Spoiler

 

Nice DR. when i validated my 4.33 it crashed while loading the validation page but it made it to the server lol - of course, I also validated that at room temperatrue thus the crash haha

 

Haha, thanks. Sounds like me. I was doing it on my Cryo at room temp. Where my AC is now is really incoviennt for benching. It can be done. But I have to really want it. I was just lazy. What I really need is more voltage. I had a few of those though where it crash while validating, then when I restarted and opened IE it allowed me to restore the last session. But actually when I got the 4.2Ghz, it didn't crash. Validated, and I was able to drop the multipliers down before crashing. I also removed the metal mesh above the fans on the Cryo yesterday, for less restrictive airflow. Figured it really doesn't make too much of a differance, but hey, why not?

 

Yeah I was clowning on AC but I couldn't get my CPU to cool down sufficiently to score 20k+ so I figured why not. I'm in the process of looking for thin 100% CU tape that I can wrap around the sinks to improve the cooling. There's very little wiggle room in the M17x for much modding unfortunately. Apart from the heat, the biggest hurdle I've found is the PSU doesn't keep up. If I raise the BCLK with 5% already in the bios, TDP@94W and the GPU's OC'd to 920/1240ish, the PSU shuts down during the 2nd CPU test in Vantage. I've been looking for 19.5V 300W PSU's on the internet but no luck yet. I know Delta makes one but I'm having a tough time locating it. Could use some help tracking it down, I bet it would help everyone here.

 

Just take the keyboard off to get more direct airflow. Adding mass wont matter, it is surface area and airflow that you need

 

You probably just had hardware failure if nothing else is working. Time to call Dell for some warranty work.

 

Adding copper will add surface area and radiate the heat better even with standard cooling. There's a big thread about this in the Asus forum and back when I had a G51, I dropped my load temps in furmark by about 10C using copper + drilling out the bottom panel. Since our panel is already perforated enough, the copper tape should help. Soviet Sunrise has taken his Clevo to the extreme, he added copper inside his PSU, all over his mainboard, CPU etc, it's actually a very nice job (he posted some pics before). His temps no longer break 70C under load with a 940xm.

 

im on the road right now, but i do have the right power supply you guys are looking for...and it is in no way cheap! they make them here in California as well. gangsterone had one made. he said it helped him stabilize his over clocks..even though they wern't higher than mine...that was why i never got one...now i wish i would have. they are rated for like 5W up to 450W depending on how they make it. you just add your own tip wire. when i get home...i'll find it. this is what the m17x would really need. it scales with the computer.

ill also try to track down the one your looking for, if you guys dont find it.

 

Joker, on the g51 I suspect almost all of the temp drop was due to the holes....those had notoriously bad cooling

John, I doubt the M17x would allow use of a non dell psu, they have some BIOS verification in place

 

really? we just powered one up with a universal adapter. m17x like yours.
and no it wasn't a standard universal either..lo

 

no kidding....I would not have guessed that would work!

That will definitely benefit R2 people. My R1 never maxes out with everything pushed to the extremes (around 255W at the wall under MAX load)

 

you can probably mod a clevo adapter to work...i pushed their adapter to 321W from the wall

 

If they can custom build it with a 19.5V rating then that'd be perfect. This system absolutely needs a 300W PSU. We may be able to crack 20k vantage with it.

Scook, it was a combination of both. I ran a test before drilling out the bottom and the drop was about 4-5C and the rest of the gain was with the bottom hole. The increased surface area made a noticeable difference. I'm not expecting miracles with the R2 but a few C would be nice.

 

im down with this, id be willing to help out

 

Well, for my benefit as well as others, did some tests with 10.7 vs 10.6 on my 4870s (results may differ for the 5870s). I did 5 runs each in vantage and am showing the averages. I ran these with my 4870s and QX9300 bonestock speeds and pretty much no OS tweaks except turning all the driver stuff to high performance.

10.6
Overall: P11187
GPU: 11415
CPU: 10561

10.7
Overall: P11215
GPU: 11453
CPU: 10560

My conclusion, nothing to get excited about for the 4870s at least, I guess they at least bring game support.

 

You can combine two PSUs and make a 480W one (you already have one, just buy the second one from Dell). The voltage will be 19.5 but you will have double the available Amp.

 

Why don't you be the guinea pig on that one StamatisX lol

 

He's right. It would work. I remember I suggested this in a forum back in the M1710 days when the 150 watt brick was considered extreme overkill. I may actually look into this. I haven't thought about that in awhile.

 

If I were in Greece I would have done it a long time ago since my father has a very well equipped electronics lab. Where I am right now I don't even have a simple multimeter...

 

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this is a basis to go by..and it covers the voltage and amps you seek.they are self regulating depending on what your using.

 

Radioshack should have everything this project would require!

 

hummm...im not that good at building...lol

i would have to buy mine already built.

also..im gonna take some pictures of the i975 for you. with eraser on it...you can use art eraser on a laptop motherboard as well..to keep condensation off the board.

 

I think that is mainly only needed by the ln2 and dice crowd lol.

And I meant radioshack for doing 2 psus in parallel haha, not making a custom one

Got froyo on your evo yet?

 

haha, got cha.

nope, not yet..still waiting for most of the bugs to be cleared out of it.

 

it's good for guys using freezers as well...

 

Ha not a chance in hell I'll stick my system in a freezer. I'll leave that to you guys. The AC is even a stretch for me. I'm going to continue to focus on trying to improve the air cooling aspect via mods + software workarounds like I've been doing. If my CPU hadn't hit a thermal wall I wouldn't have resorted to AC...yet. My ultimate goal is to try and get optimal air cooling so that these benchmark results translate into everyday use.

BTW, we keep coming back to frequent benchmark updates and I'll continue to insist on the Wiki site. It's all there and can be divided up into categories for different processors etc and the burden doesn't have to fall on any one person to update since everyone can submit their own scores and update them. I'll oversee the page to make sure everything is in order and not broken but it does make it easier and more organized.

 

software workarounds are definitely good for every day use...but when benching for top scores...it's not gonna cut it...lol nothing beats out getting your cpu in optimal range...and that needs to be below zero. then and only then is when the cpu starts to come alive. im guess, but it should hit some where in the range of 5+ ghz if it were under ss/dice/ln2 or lhe....then you can push the tdp of the chip itself up....probably not going to happen in a regular laptop...but more on a modt board.



what link do i click on to get there? wiki that is.

ok, i see where...

so it's just for m17x owners only...

 

That's why you need to get an M17x and drop some LN2 on the sinks. It's all up top so it would be pretty easy to do. As long as you got a more powerful PSU, the sky is the limit with LN2 + Throttlestop + Rivatuner. You can add a subsection in the M17x benchmark area in that Wiki for non-laptops.


Edit: Check the benchmark section now. Non-M17x subsection added.

 

i would use a dice pot. and just set it on top of the cpu and then bench it.

so, if this is true...then you can do this.
get a tin cup, art eraser & some shop towels
put the eraser around the cpu. set the shop towel on top. this is to catch condensation for the cup.cup should be wrapped in foam to keep from freezing. set the cup on top. put a chip or two of dry ice in..very small at first.
boot to bios and check the temp for the cpu...if things look good, then boot into windows....you can be first to run dice...

since it's on top. i would just use my phase change and run with it....dice is cool, but i would have to run out and buy some...lol

can you multiplier over clock on this, i forget?

 

Go wild with your non m17x benchmarks on the wiki page John

 

W0000000000000000tttt Just solved my problem
Thank god i found the solution, otherwise I'd have to ship it to the US today
I just started to tamper with the system and then decided to remove the mothrboard battery for 20 seconds and then it boots up on the second run
I didnt think it was hardware related cuz it was properly cooled...
and i replaced the thermal paste for nothing Ill check the temps and stuff

 

Congrats but your system should not have shut down like that in the first place. Could be indicative of a looming hardware failure.

 

that's a big ten four negative!
wont be calling me no wanna be alienware reject....lol

good stuff!

 

I realize it surely is something to be worried about, but I honestly didnt want a failing system right now, Ill call dell soon, and tell them, or souldnt I? Either way I've got 4 years accidental damage So I'll probably replace it whenever im in the US. But thanks for the heads up on the failing harware part, Ill check everything i can.

Indeed it is!!

 

Now your thinking as I was after i hit 22K on the CPU. Extreme cooling is going to be the best way to push the scores even further. I've been thinking of trying this when I return to the states. Mostly because I don't think I can get my hands on some dice out here.

 

I think my paste is crapping out. First two weeks the temps were great and now I just did an IBT comparison with Jubbing and the results were terrible. I ran my 940xm at stock with TDP only mildly raised to 66W. He had his CPU at 140 BCLK (5% OC) + 70W TDP and mine still got hotter. His max was 91C and the rest were mid 80s, my max was about 95C and the rest were in the high 80s. Considering my system wasn't even being stressed as hard, those temp deltas were unacceptable. I think if I ran with a 5% BCLK and 70W TDP, the CPU would've hit TJMax and shut down lol. No wonder I couldn't crack 21k CPU in vantage. Time for a repaste tomorrow..fun fun.

 

Joker what kind of paste are you using? I put ICDiamond in the GPU's, and replaced all the pads on the system, GPUS, CPU, ect. But for the CPU I'm using AS5. Mostly because it's cheaper and easier to use then IC Diamond. I've been changing the paste like once a week since I've been switching CPUs. Lord knows I've been frying the paste. I'll put IC Diamond on the CPU when I finally decide to pull the plug on benching and set the system up for normal every day use.