*OFFICIAL* M17x Benchmark Thread - Part 3

Vantage gain eh? That's kind of spiked my curiosity *cough* DR *cough*

 

Yea I might have to reinstall the Benching SSD. Need to as it is, but just to lazy. Maybe have to flash to the new 5870 vbios as well. *sigh*

EDIT: Wow, Jubbing was thinking the same thing I was, just quicker.

I also need to reclaim my single 5870GPU 3DMark 2001 SE benchmark on HWBot. Lost a point on that and too lazy to get it back at the moment. Waiting on the arrival of three CPUs

 

I will still have to test it I think. If that will get my the P15k+ then why not check? lol

 

3 cpu's nice what u getting?.I seen Laptopmonkey had three i7 640M for sale he got one left did you get one ?.

INTEL mobile i7 640M 3.46GHZ - faster than 620M sale! on eBay (end time 06-Sep-10 11:14:44 BST)

 

I got from differant vendors, I got a i7 720, i3 330, and i5 450 for benching. Might have to look into the 640 now

 

Nice collection 520,720,330,450,920,940 damn get the 640 as well

 

I should throw in an 8 series as well. Eventually I want to bench every possible CPU for the system, although, thats a lot.

 

I am sort of doing the same thing with gpus for my R1 haha. Got some GTX 280m's coming I think

Just leaves the 260m's which I would be willing to do a straight trade for the GTX 280m's after I am done with them (should be easy enough haha).

There are SO many socket P mobile cpus though.....not going to be getting all of them lol

 

get cha chip hussle on...lol

 

If that is directed at me John....I am welcome to the loan of socket p cpus lol but can't afford to amass them all myself

As I am sure you saw, I was also able to take out TASOS in superpi32m with the T7200 last night (still need 25s for HIDEO though )

 

i got two right now..
1.66 and 1.83 i think.

 

I now officially have a pair of GTX 280m cards with heatsinks and sli cable on the way!

Look forward to some juicy nvidia benches

 

damn, i got some one trying to flag my 5450 submits..oh brother.

 

on what grounds?

 

damn, i missed all that on msn...ill answer it all in a little bit

and the 5450 is clear now..so it's all good.

 

Sounds good, better take this to pm though to keep the thread on topic

 

Ok guys here's my new Vantage score. This is with the new dell vbios and Dell's 10.8 beta drivers. No external cooling of any kind. Only things changed is: CPU/GPU thermal paste to IC Diamonds and changed the thermal pads to EK 1.0mm. I'm very impressed with the vbios+dell beta drivers.

 

i run the 10.8 drivers and it works great also saw a 400 point avg increase over a decent sample size using the 10.6 over 10.5 drivers.

 

good i saw the new dell beta driver now. this time it must be 10.8. i will try and feedback too. sleep issues fixed is a good point to do so.

i also hope the 5870s will be finally available for purchase as spare parts soon and i guess they will have the new vbios on them.

 

it really looks like its the best till now. i have to test more though. i hope we found the best one so as to delete the various ATI versions i have stored

Dell should always release Dell beta drivers as ATI drivers are updated regularly. they dont have the time or they need months to test each driver (yeah well) so i would wait them to release only beta drivers now on. and yes i hope they wont fix something and ruin something else on their next beta driver.

 

Got the Voltage up to 1.2 on the cards, and it booted up into windows.

It says crossfireX is enabled but the second card is in ULPS mode(even though i disabled everything with ULPS in the registry) and the FPS in 3dmark06 is like its pulling from one card.

I think it might be the PSU not being able to give it enough power?

Any thoughts?


EDIT: And the GPU Clock for the second card is downclocked to 300/400

 

is it still down clocked?

 

I had that happen a few times in 06, where one card would just drop out until I restarted the machine

Think it may have happened once or twice in vantage as well

 

Yes, still downclocked and i can't take it any higher.

I just flashed the original VBios, might try it again later...

I tried a few restarts, but it still didnt change anything.

GPU-Z shows the default clock @ 675/1140 but the GPU Clock @ 300/400

Tried furmark but the second card wouldnt go to the full frequency.

 

Hey guys I just bought an M17x R2 w/ an Intel Core i7 720QM, Dual Mobility HD 5870's in Crossfire and 8GB of 1333mhz DDR3 RAM. I downloaded and ran 3DMark Vantage and my graphics score was 2522, CPU score 10717 which gave me a total 3DMark Score of 3119.

Now I know I don't have the best system out there but I'm almost positive it should be doing better than that. I just reformatted my system so I could put my two hard drives in RAID-0. After I did that and I had to reinstall my drivers from scratch, I decided to use ATI's newest drivers for the HD 5870, so I installed them and restarted the computer. Everytime it would get to the login screen the screen would black out and I wouldn't be able to see or do anything, so I ended up having to go into safe mode eventually and get rid of the drivers with Driver Sweeper and install Dell's driver off their website. I have Crossfire enabled in CCC, so I'm not too sure what the problem is.

 

Sounds like you are not running in performance mode or are possibly in stealth mode.

Make sure you click on the battery icon in your system tray and select "High Performance"

Make sure you enter the Catalyst control center and Crossfire is enabled

and last but not least, MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT IN STEALTH MODE... and try 3D Mark again.

Good luck

 

I pushed the Stealth mode button and it asked if I wanted to enter Stealth mode and I pushed No so I assume I am not in it. I also have my power options set to High Performance and in CCC I have Crossfire Enabled. I deleted the ATI drivers, restarted into Safe Mode and used Driver Sweeper to get rid of any leftover ATI Drivers. I then restarted and installed Dell's driver for the HD 5870 and restarted my computer again. I started up Vantage and it's the same thing, about 4-7 FPS on the first test so I just exited it and knew it would be about the same.

Edit: I ran the Video Test of Counter Strke: Source just to see what my FPS would be and it was hovering around 60FPS in the Stress Test. What is going on with my cards, one card should do better than that let alone both in Crossfire...granted CS isn't a game that utilizes Crossfire but still one card should do better than that.

 

unfortunately we see this all the time, I would bet anything that you are in stealth mode. there is a stealth mode indicator you just have to use the search function to find it. that will tell you for sure. otherwise post some screen shots with some readings, but post it in another thread. this is for benchmarking posts, but not problems.

Edit:here it is bro
http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware/463382-stealth-mode-indicator-3.html#post6589020

 

Usaully it is stealth mode, so try to go into stealth mode and then back out of it.

Also, are you plugged into a power outlet?

If all of this fails, post some temps...

 

I just did a 3DMark Vantage Trial Benchmark of my Stock M17xR2, I received on August 9th, 2010.

Results:
3DMark Score: P12183 3DMarks
CPU Score: 11379
Graphics Score: 12477
Date Tested: August 30, 2010
OS: Windows 7
CPU: Intel Core i7-820QM Processor
CPU Speed: 1728 MHz
GPU: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870
Memory: 6144 MB

umm how is it? seems low?

I gave it another shot but this time closing all unnecessary programs and etc except the 3dmark. Results were a bit better:
3DMark Score: P12572 3DMarks
CPU Score: 11537
Graphics Score: 12959

 

How do you do in 3dmark 06? I don't know much about Vantage

 

that score seems in the ballpark for your machine @ stock settings. figure in some oc'ing and you could prob hit the 16-17k

 

I'm running an M17x R2 with A06 BIOS and Dell's ATI Drivers non Beta, with a Core i7 720QM, 8GB 1333Mhz DDR3, and Dual HD 5870's Crossfire. I just ran 3DMark Vantage and scored a 12,052. Is this what I should be getting, or is there another test I can run to see how my system is running? The reason I ask is because I did a Video Stress Test inside Counter Strike Source and it only averaged about 260 FPS with no AA/AF and compared to my old desktop computer with just an HD 4890 that is ridiculously low. I would have my max FPS at 600 and would end up averaging 598 FPS for the test. It just seems like two of these cards should be giving some more FPS in something like CS:S...

 

At stock, my 4870s about match a desktop 4890 so that sounds right. The desktop will have a much faster CPU than the i7 720qm, you have to take that into account for the older games as they are more cpu dependent

Your vantage score is in line with what you should expect for stock speeds

 

That vantage score is where its supposed to be...

Your CPU is holding you back, from getting more potential out of the system.

As for CS:S benchmark scoring low is because of crossfireX and your cpu.

There are workarounds to making it work, both GPU cores i mean, but then the benchmark will flicker like crazy because each card will try processing each frame on its own memory. Its just one of those crossfire things, i guess.

 

So you're saying that I'm getting low performance from CS:S because of my CPU and running XFire? If I was to return this one and get an M17x with an i7 820 or 920 would that be a lot better? Would running CS:S with XFire disabled in CCC help? Scook, why is it your Vantage score is that much higher than mine when I'm running an i7 processor and dual HD 5870's and you're running HD 4870's with the Core 2 Quad processor? I would have thought that the i7 720qm using it's Turbo Boost to get into the 2+ Ghz range and dual 5870's would perform better than your set up, I don't get it...


Edit: I understand you guys are saying that my CPU is bottlenecking the GPU's, but I mean I figure it's not like it's that bad of a processor. It's an i7 720qm which has low base clocks, but it also has four cores and uses Turbo Boost when I'm running these Benchmarks putting it into the 2+ Ghz range. It just doesn't make sense to me that games like CS:S are being so bottlenecked by a four core processor running in the 2+ Ghz range while doing these tests, considering that my old dual core with a very old GPU will do just as good. It's gotta be more than just the processor being just a Core i7 720Qm, just doesn't make sense. If I was to get the i7 920X would it really start making these two GPU's produce, or am I really just looking at the possibility that the GPU's aren't going to give me that much more performance wise?

 

An 820 wouldnt do that much better anyway. A 920XM will do as good as it can be overclocked.

This is not because of crossfire being enabled. Its because the way crossfire works.
This is where having crossfire enabled isnt going to improve anything.

example:
DR650SE's 168065 marks Aquamark run with 2x Mobility Radeon HD 5870 @ 824/1184MHz

DR650SE's 165317 marks Aquamark run with Mobility Radeon HD 5870 @ 834/1184MHz

Both of these are Radeon 5870's, one with crossfire and one without. Crossfire deosnt benefit from being enabled.

 

The scores in my sig are not stock lol

I have my CPU at 4.16 GHz and in a chest freezer. (actually need to get back in there....)

Even though you have 4 cores, does not mean the program (game in this case) is actually utilizing them. Most games only need a dual core to do well, then it becomes a matter of clock speeds, and the i7 720qm has abysmal clock speeds compared to desktop dual cores. Even with turbo enabled. And I would not call the 4890 very old. It may have come out 2 years ago (well, the 4870 and 4850 were 2 years ago, the 4890 is just a tweaked 4870) but it is still a very strong card and well regarded by many.

 

basically the whole 4800 series is...and they still do extremely well in older benchmarks.

 

Is P8567 good in Vantage for an i7 720/Single 5870/4gb??

 

That is perfect for stock

 

hopefully this is ok to ask in here, firstly does the 3dmark06 and vantage get performed in "turbo mode" with the i7 cpu's?

and there seems to be a huge gap between say a HD5870 CF with the i7 920 and HD5870 Cf with i7 740qm.....the clock difference isn't very much but the 3dmark06 gap seems to be substantial.......i haven't received my M17x yet to run the benchmarks but research seems to say a 5000+ difference which is huge for such a small cpu difference......interesting to hear why that's the case....when i first ordered my machine i thought i would score close to 20,000 3dmark06 with my setup but going by info from here that's a dream..

 

The huge gap is because thanks to Throttlestop's unlocking of TDP/TDC and multiplier manipulation, the 920xm/940xm blow away any other mobile CPU. My 940xm can maintain a multiplier of 27x across all 4 cores/8 threads at 133 fsb. The 720/740/820/840 mobile processor's can't even come close to that (TDP cannot be unlocked with those). My advice to anyone getting an M17x-R2 is to get it with the lowest CPU option possible from Dell and then grab a 920xm from eBay for $450.

 

oh i see, that makes sense, it's all very confusing, i was under the impression that having i7 tech would greatly improve my gaming experience, i play modern games and they all say quad core support is recommended, but it seems as though there is some misleading going on....for example my i7 740qm has a turbo boost of 2.9Ghz but it seems as though that isnt often used which means my dual core P9700 @ 2.8Ghz is actually a stronger card for my gaming, or am i still mistaken...?...thanks for the explanations its helping a lot.

 

i7's are more efficient clock for clock vs core 2 duo. In games that don't utilize multithreading, your i7 has turbo boost that will push it up to 2.8-2.9 ghz depending on how hot the CPU is running. Even if your P9700 could match it, the i7 will still be faster. The i7's are definitely a nice step up from the C2D but if you want the absolute best in mobile CPU's, the 920/940xm + Throttlestop combo is unbeatable. My 940xm with increased TDP + multipliers rivals desktop i7s.

 

Hi Peeps,

I thought it would be the best place to ask. Seeing as most of you might be doing some sort of overclocking to try and push the benchmark numbers up.
I used to do a little OCing in my R1 using Nvidia system tools. That was great and really simple to use.

I was wondering if there was something similar for ATi cards?
I have tried ATi tool and rivatuner, however both of them don't seem to work.
I just tried AMD gpu tool however I was only able to set one of my GPUs to OC state. The other one just didn't want to budge or a error message saying I couldn't set it kept popping up.
Is it because I need more power or something?
The clocks I tried and will probably just want to stay on is 800 and 1100 where as the stock was set at 700 and 1000. I looked around and it seemed like quite a small OC and also most people were running these clocks.

Any ideas, help or direction would be greatly appreaciated!
I just want to set those clocks. If they can be set to stay every time I restart that would be awesome as well. However I am just looking for the simplest and fastest way to OC atm. Thanks.

Cheers.

 

Man, I feel like I'm watching my HWBot stats wither away. Not good. And I have CPU's to sell since they are not doing me any good. Stupid bios support. I need to get more motivated.

 

your still up there.

 

Yea, but 25% of my gold cups have been snatched up. Still waiting on the 720M CPU to get here, and in the mean time I'm going to sell off the 450M and 330M. Both are brand new and I lack bios support. Then I'm going to hunt down some more CPUs. See if I can't turn them over for some more points.

 

yeah, by your fellow members...lol

so your in no real loss there...lol

now if it's someone out side the camp...well then...thats another story.