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    OverClocking Q9000 in M17x

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by SumKallMeTIM, Jun 22, 2009.

  1. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    I posted a guide. It is quite possible a newer version of NST may not work with the newer chipset drivers or so on
     
  2. pmassey31545

    pmassey31545 Whats the mission sir?

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    Got mine set at 1285(per info in this thread) and the memory is 1066(stock). Ran OCCT for 30 mins no problems. Plays games well and seems to be a little faster in everyday stuff. No problems here.
     
  3. freedom16

    freedom16 Notebook Deity

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    I am doing through the Ntools and i can't go high as i would like too which is at least 2.53 sometimes it freezes when i am not evening playing games lol. i just have it set at 2.2.3 something ghz. I probably have to stop at 2.4 oh well. Moo welcome back again how are you doing? Are you going to join us again with these machines lol.
     
  4. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    no I don't need one but I can still help
     
  5. pmassey31545

    pmassey31545 Whats the mission sir?

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    Oops! I must have went back to 1275. No reason. It was running good. Just erring on the side of caution.

    [​IMG]
     
  6. freedom16

    freedom16 Notebook Deity

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    I successfully overclocked the ram to 1333 but every time i overclock the cpu to ten or 15 higher numbers fsb it never goes through, windows screen loads up and then finally it just loads up the windows sound and the screen goes black what can i do to change it successfully and not have a black screen.
     
  7. tyranus7

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    how did you get nvidia system tools to work?????? when i set the new fsb, cpu z says the clock speed is the same it was before doing the increase of fsb, so NST is not working to me. I don't want to overclock using the bios thing because i think it is 1) more dangerous than NST, because if it fails then i have to take off the cmos battery, and i don't even know where it is or how to take it off... 2) because it is annoying go to the bios, i mean you have to reboot the system every time you want to test a new clock, thats something you don't have to do with NST... anyway the damn thing is not working, can someone post a working version of NST.. i have the 6.02.15 version
     
  8. freedom16

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    I am running the 6.05 one the new one i have works a lot better with this machine. I do agree about that but i am enjoying running 1333 overclocked ram now too lol. When i do the overclock it goes through in CPUZ but i just want to load that up at the desktop which why i tried overclocking the ram instead of having to load the profile and stutter and freeze on me sometimes.

    See overclocked to 2.2 ghz using Ntools and showing you through CPUZ maybe its your drivers and whatknot.
     

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    Tyranus07 Notebook Evangelist

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    I just installed the 6.05 version and now i can overclock the CPU with nvidia system tools, so i guess the 6.02 version is incompatible with the M17x. By the way i did overclock the cpu @2.2 GHz and my scrore in Batman Arkham Asylum benchmark did jump from 39 fps avagare, to 46 fps avarage.. and 3Dmark06 jumped from 10k to 11k... it seems this CPU running @ 2.0 GHz is a huge bottleneck for the GTX 280M SLI.
     
  10. freedom16

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    Yup when i changed to the newest one i finally got the option of having to overclock properly, everytime i overclock the processor it just freezes it sucks when it happens but i am going to run 3D Mark 06 with the overclock but i always knew that the 2GHZ on this processor was always going to be some type of bottleneck, it has been overclock stable at 2.7 by some other people which is crazy!! But i am playing mass effect 2 full 1080P and 16K Antriposy sorry for the bad spelling and was converting a file and it was running well but a nice overclock will help though which i will do in a few. This is why i want either a QX9300 or a R2 with the 920 or 940EX!! Also Cross-Fire 5870s sick of crappy Nvidia cards and their crap. Also when i overclock the cpu, ram and gpu it just freezes lol, it actually just shut off too, i had a successful 2.4ghz before and should of left it just the way it was.

    Wow That's amazing with a overclock to 2.3ghz i got a 3dmark 06 score of 11168 that's awesome man before i barely broke 10K I was getting higher fps.also while it was going some of the graphics tests, i would love too run 3Dmark vantage too but afraid to do that with the freezing oh well whatever lol. Overclocking the CPU really helps out with multitasking as i work on a lot of videos when i want too. So just a minor overclock to 2.2ghz really is helping out a lot and the machine isn't slowing down at all and temps are really good and surprised the gpus are slightly overclocked and idling at 56 lol. I am getting a 20 percent boost from what i am seeing while encoding a movie in HD 1080P and defraging my hard drive and typing this, cpu temps are kinda high at near 70C some of them two currently, well 73C kinda worried but i have faith in this amazing flextronics cooling! Best i have seen in a notebook.
     
  11. Aranthira

    Aranthira Notebook Consultant

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    Hi guys,

    Dell just replaced my wife's R1 (p8700, single gtx260, 250g hd, 4gb, 900p) with another R1 (Q9000, GTX 280 sli, 250g hd, 4gb,900p, bluetooth).

    I have had it running completely stable at 1300 fsb and memory since day 1. Works great so far....
     
  12. tyranus7

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    Why is your laptop freezing? it is because the overclocking???? 73 C is ok to me.. i am getting no more than 68 C but, it is pretty cold here, no more than 15 C .... i remember my old laptop the XPS M1530 i was getting around 80 C in CPU, so there is nothing to worry about 73 C... About NVIDIA cards i like them over ATI becauses physx, if you have SLI you can disable SLI and set one of the cards to be dedicated to phisics which really improves your fps score. Besides nvidia runs better in games than ATI. By the way the QX9300 is so damn expensive!!!
     
  13. freedom16

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    Yeah i know i know, i just freezes with the overclocking otherwise this machine rocks i just got it. You know a single 5870 destroys too sli 280s and 260s!! The only reason why games perform better with Nvidia is they make them on that platform, just like Dirt 2 and some other games are made for ATI. Just go bid on one or something it can be quite cheap if you figure something out though. A single 5870 can play most games at 1080P and medium to high settings, i do like nvidia here and there, well my cpu was going at about 75C never higher.
     
  14. tyranus7

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    I am not really sure if a single ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 "destroys" a SLI GTX 280M it seems to me you are over rating the ATI card. And SLI GTX 280M plays most of games @1200p with no problem at high settings as well.. plus you have physx. I think it doesn't matter if the 5870 is better than NVIDIA cards, the most important thing is games plays better on NVIDIA, thats what we care most about. My advice to you, is wait for AW to develop a new laptop with the new GTX 480M fermi card and the new extreme i7 processor.

    At what clock speed are you getting 75C???
     
  15. Aranthira

    Aranthira Notebook Consultant

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    According to notebookcheck.com a single gtx 280 is slightly ahead of a 5870. I'm not saying a single test says all there is but if you start dropping statements that a single 5870 blows away 2 GTX280's in SLI i'd like a link to that comparison. Also note that it's hard to compare a 5870 in an I7 system to a Gtx280 in a core2 system since they are 2 entirely different generations of hardware.

    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 17932
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280M 18414

    Notebookcheck: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-280M.14558.0.html

    GTX280: 3DMark 06:
    min: 11767, avg: 12569, max: 13652 Points ...

    5870: 3DMark 06:
    min: 12304, avg: 12634, max: 13451 Points
     
  16. EviLCorsaiR

    EviLCorsaiR Asura

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    Wrong, wrong, very very wrong. A single 5870 comes nowhere CLOSE to SLi 280/260, provided the game being played uses SLi well.

    I mean, in games that use Crossfire well, my two 3870s are slightly less powerful than a single 5870.

    Last time I checked, SLi 260/280 is a hell of a lot more powerful than my Crossfire 3870s.


    It'd take Crossfire 5870s to destroy SLi 280Ms, providing an improvement of around 40-50%.
     
  17. freedom16

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    Great now i am going to be criticized and annoyed, no offensive just felt like saying that. When i get back my G73JH from repair i am going to write a review of both of them, damn i never knew your only running 2 gigs of ram damn you need more ram. Anyway from what i am seeing playing 1080P through my monitor, everything on high etc... 16x manage to get 40 fps on most games, but from what i am seeing when playing napoleon total war it was stuttering and boy slow as heck even in low resolutions and on medium. I will run another test again but it was pittyful, so going from a 5870 to sli 260s i feel that the 5870 was getting more frame rates but then i am just running stock nvidia mobile drivers from Nvidia not dell and i usually run desktop drivers modded but it just won't install and the Dox ones were giving me trouble with mass effect 2 and Physx. It just might be the cpu that is hurting napoleon total war should clock this thing higher. But having two gpus do help a lot. So when are you going to upgrade your machine?
     
  18. EviLCorsaiR

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    I'm NOT going to upgrade my machine. It's fine how it is. 2GB may seem small but it's actually plenty for my needs. Windows runs nice at about 700MB usage, leaving me that 1.3GB for games-usually more than enough.

    Although there are a few cases in which 4GB would be nice, so I am considering it. Depends if I come across £100, when there isn't a lot of good games that I want to buy.

    As for the graphics result, that might just be that you're not playing games that use SLi well. In games that use SLi very poorly then yes a single 5870 could beat two 260/280Ms.

    The only real way to test them both for a solid result is to run game benchmarks on both systems with the same processor, RAM, OS...and with the latest drivers offered for the system.
     
  19. freedom16

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    You should get some 1333 ddr3, Mandrake is selling Kingston HyperX memory, i was joking around before about that EvilCorsair. I do photo editing, video, games, dreamsweaver so always going to need a new system anyway. Yeah i agree with the benchmarking etc... What do you with your comp besides benchmarking and gaming?
     
  20. EviLCorsaiR

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    Basically this computer is my computer. I do everything with it. Work, internet, music, movies, games. I don't really benchmark it tbh.

    No pont in 1333 DDR3 as it's underclocked to 1066 anyway, and I don't plan on overclocking. I most likely will be getting 1066 Kingston HyperX if I ever come across £100 with nothing else to want to spend it on. Seeming as I'm running well on 2GB, 4GB is a luxury that I'd like to have if I can buy it, but not if there are other things (i.e. games) that I'd rather buy with my money.
     
  21. freedom16

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    Yeah i hear you, its cheaper to do that than to get the games from other means and have issues with it.... I am going to try out star trek online on my m11x soon enough.
     
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    I think I am going to stop for a while of trying to get the "highest system i can get"because it is frustrating to do that. Some guys did order the new M17x with Crossfire 5870 and they are already sending back to dell because the new GTX 480M is around the corner. So in this case i am with EviLCorsaiR and if the system is good enogh to you, then keep it, we don't reallly need to always have the best of the best .. because todays best is tomorrows second best... and so
     
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    Yeah i know i totally hear you!! I have been running at 2.2.5 ghz on this quadcore and its stable and now i truly see the bottleneck of this machine, a little jump to that and boy this thing flies through Napoleon total war, yup i play plenty of rts games, one of the best RTS game of the series i do agree about. Well also no more stuttering and jumping and decent fps even at medium, playing through my monitor and the power of sli and wow just wow awesome. But i am still keen on a R2 and hopefully when the 480 comes out it won't be controlled by Dell and the horrible drivers. Has anyone else pushed overclocked the Q9000 higher like 2.66 lol. I just realized damn your running 1440x900!! Deff time for an upgrade that screen.
     
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    Oh, bad news, NST is freezing my system too. it freeze it at startup and coming from stand by,so i am overclocking through bios now @2.2 GHz
     
  25. marceldomingu

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    hi boys, what is the default frequency of the memory in the over clocking setup on bios? i think in past i changed this value to 1333 and i want to try to put it as default.

    thanks!
     
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