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    Pics for M17xR3(Sandybridge) and benchmark(you may wanna c)

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by yyduinihao0, Dec 7, 2010.

  1. Porter

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    I thought it looked like that 1394 connection or whatever it is called, it's the one I never use. On my R2 is it right in front of the USB on the left side.
     
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    It looks big enough to be the M17x and looking at the 3dmark06 score that was 20k, I don't think a single 6970m would reach that high even with a Sandy CPU. My 5870m xfire setup with an OC'd 940xm was barley hitting 23.7k. If that is 16:10, then I hope it's an improved RGB LED (maybe LG with full profile support if we're lucky).
     
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    Looks like 16:10 again judging by the size of they keyboard and width of the machine. I would be shocked if it was 16:9 because it doesn't look like that at all.
     
  6. Quadzilla

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    The palmrest and the rails along edges of the keyboard are now all one piece like the M6500 .
     
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    It's not impossible that a single HD6970M is showing a 20K score in 3DMark06....especially considering that we don't know if what's causing the machine to report a near 16K score on what looks like an IGP is also erroneously inflating the other scores as well.
     
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    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but I think the new design is ugly. Maybe it's because it's unfamiliar but my first impression is I hate it. They have gone too far with the whole Alien-esque thing. The biggest problem I have is with the curved design of the front grilles. I like sleek and angular, not curvy. The control panel looks like some kind of weird foreign-language lettering. I agree with Joker that the whole look is more childish and I would add less professional. It actually looks like some kind of cheap Asian knockoff product. I'm so glad I ordered an R2 before this thing came out.
     
  9. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    That is certainly not the M15x based on the size of the screen alone..

    Take a look at some of the pics of the M15x and how much space there is around the screen.. Especially the top and bottom ..
     
  10. hrdyeus

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    Wow, people are allowed to have their own opinion, but sheesh picky, picky. I, for one, like the new look. If it makes people say it looks more Alien-ish than I say mission accomplished.
     
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    I honestly thought the R3 would have 480 SLI.
     
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    You'd rather it have 470M SLI over 480M SLI, believe me.
     
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    Yea this is Def. a M17x
     
  14. awyongcarl

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    Wow, I'm loving it already lol.
    Glad I didn't sold my M15x for M17x R2.
    So I can save for that :D
     
  15. FXi

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    Actually some of the pics look 16:9 to me. Hopefully the 16:10 RGB can still be put in (the early news said it would still be an option on the R3).

    The bigger touchpad is not so good for those of us who type with palms that always set off touchpads (bad thing). The M6500 size is just good enough. They should have kept to no bigger than that. Not a dealbreaker though. As was said above, it's what is inside that counts.

    No Expresscard? That's not good, imo.

    USB 3? Don't see it but hard to be sure.

    Why in the world wouldn't you get rid of analog VGA? This is 2011, not 1999. Should have used the space too put in triple mini displayport so these things could run Eyefinity :) Or at least throw in DVI like every other video card on the planet.

    Designwise I like the old slightly better, but I'll get used to this new one. The lighting and the huge trackpad make it look a bit lopsided, but don't really mind. Black and red seems to cover it for me.

    Could be really sad if 16k was a single 460M and 20k was CF 6870's. SLI 570/580 could be fun if it doesn't arrive 6 months late.

    I also note they were running 3 different CPU cores. All look very nice.
     
  16. Phinagle

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    M15x
    [​IMG]
    R3
    [​IMG]
    M17xR2
    [​IMG]


    Not saying for sure it's one or the other but I see about as much difference in the space around the screen between the M15x and R3 as there is between the R3 and the M17xR2.

    Being an M15X would also explain why there's no side vents.
     
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    I'm not seeing the bad news.
     
  18. Porter

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    They already can run eyefinity, as I am right now. Not everyone has a displayport monitor, so having multiple of that same one just means more dongles. Personally I had problems with the DP to DVI so I ended up using 2 of the 3 displays as VGA anyway, and they look awesome.
     
  19. Quadzilla

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    @Phinagle You can still see the bottom of the bezel is larger on the M15x before it meets the screen and the screen is much taller in the pics of the new machine even if the image looks a little distorted..

    The screen still seems to be 16:10 .


    Some of this stuff could very well be place holder materials before it go's into final production ..

    Also the side vents might be gone but the pic i took earlier zoomed in shows a much more open exhaust on the back of the machine which would be why there are no gills on the side of the machine now..
     
  20. BIGX333

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    I prefer the old design but... If that's the price I have to pay for 120HZ screen I'm ok :D
     
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    Is that R3 also missing speaker on both sides?
     
  22. Thatoe

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    No it's not. Just different design.
     
  23. Natadiem

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    So there is a M17x R3 after all…
    So the rumors from the Dell guy were true…
    I love the new design.
    I am glad they are not scared to push the “Alien”concept.
    I missed the original Alienware boutique design.
    Concerning the thickness of the notebook, I am surprise how it got thinner.
    But this is very logic when you think about it:
    - Sandy Bridge integrated graphic seems to do an amazing job(but there is no way it does 15K at 3Dmark2006 – who would need discrete gpu?).
    - The battery is now 90mwh(he was right for the gpu&CPU so probably the battery and screen rumors are also true), so they really want you to unplug and go around (something which was barely possible with M17x R1 IMHO).
    So they make it slimmer and we can really move around with the lappy.
    With CES approaching, something tells me that these pictures might have “leaked” on purpose, it sounds a (too) perfect timing to me.
    If the guy was really spying on the unit, he would have taken the “Alien” head and a global shot.
    I think they want to keep it for CES (just my 2 cents don’t quote me on that).
     
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    I really hope that's the M15x. With a full-sized keyboard and specs like that. I really hope it is.
     
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    Then they removed 2 out of 4 leds in those speakers.
     
  26. Thatoe

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    Not sure what you mean.
    It's similar to the original one. Just more curvy.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Nice pics. TY to OP. Do want... Cant have.... Oh well lol ;)
     
  28. oneabove

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    Actually even I noticed that... it could be an issue with those pre production models... but I sure dont see the rubber bush and dont see any other arrangements instead to prevent screen from laying flat on the palmrest (could be on the top of the screen??).. combine that with the bulges you mentioned and we have scratches/scuffs on screen... hope the final models would have those worked out... design wise not that great an improvement (just aesthetically not considering cooling and stuff)...
     
  29. DarthRyo

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    It's doesn't look like so different from R2... and +1 on the media button, don't like it much.

    Anyway, wouldn't it make more sense to have a M15XR2 than a M17XR3? one or another, it always nice to see one new release :)
     
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    Hmmm you think your going to find many people on the M17x forums that would rather see a M15x R2 than a M17x R3 ?!?..... Well good luck with that.... lol ;)

    Personally I wouldnt be two worried about the bumps and missing screenrest rubbers. All the stickers all over it kinda scream "crash test dummy" prototype to me.
     
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    Interesting, I can't say that I like the look of it much. I suppose if I did not already have the M17X R2 I might of liked its look more.

    Don't like the fact that there is no expantion slot and that the Display port or hdmi port is missing, would have liked to see a back photo, and a front view with the keyboard lights turned on (or a disserent more visible colour).

    Good think about the new CPU and Graphix, will have to wait a while for confirmation of better cooling.

    If they've gone for a 16:9 ratio then I'm done.
     
  32. TurbodTalon

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    It would be nice to get some specs on the wattage of the PSU. And is it me, or do the machines we already have with XM chips score about that same score in 3DMark '06? I ran a bench with my CPU OC'd last night and scored 21K. That must be the base model or something. Anyway, I do like the look of the machine though.
     
  33. Phinagle

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    Again I don't see much difference but I'll accept that you do and then suggest that a notebook that's got a redesign to be thinner and have larger back vents could also have gotten shortened along it's depth and a new hinge, which would both change the size of the bottom screen bezel. ;)

    Comparing the distances from the Alienware logo under the screen to the edges of the notebook, does the R3 match closer to a 17" machine or a 15"?

    How about this, compare the AW logo to the Windows Start Bar and Icons, and it appears that the screen might not be set to 1920x1200. A lower res screen (e.g. a 1366x768 120Hz screen) would of course inflate the benchmark scores.
     
  34. flynnaz

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    It might have been said already, The media key bar looks like the Gateway FX's :)
     
  35. granyte

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    except every one run the benches at default resolution for performance preseting
    the screen resolution is likely 1440x900 wich is the default low resolution for alienware is it me or the back is flat?

    i think i noted something to when looking at the pic of the side of the laptop i tought it reminded me of something familiar

    i havent found a pic that shows it properly but the under part of the side and the flat back of the laptop made me think of [​IMG]
    the curvy speaker makes me think of something else like if the desing had been adapted to suit a skullcape that would explain the very likely on purpose omission of the alien head and back cover in these pic

    if that is the case i guess it's time for me to upgrade ........
     
  36. Phinagle

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    Default 3DMark06 resolution is 1280x1024 and that can't be run on a 1440x900 screen.


    Not that the 3DMark06 scores have to be wrong for those to be single GPU scores.

     
  37. GetFound

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    It looks like the Tactx keyboard.
     
  38. granyte

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    your right i havent benched ever since the m17 got relegated in the legacy forum no competition for me over there .....
     
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    The icons on the screen looks much bigger on the R3 that could be because they adjust the DPI or the screen is low res also could be 16:9 1080P
     
  40. GetFound

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    I wonder why they used 06 instead of vantage or 3dmark 11. I would have thought theyd use the newer test with the newer model.
    *Edit, I see why not 3dmark 11. I just ran it and got a 3908. Harsh.
     
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    These pics refer to Chiphell, but they dont have this article anywhere on their site that I can find. Where did these photos come from? Does YY work for Dell? I've seen so many fake reports I'm always the skeptic now. sry.
    The pics def dont look photochopped, but can we verify the legitimacy of this?
     
  42. DR650SE

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    Optimus Tech. I'm not a fan. Although I would like integrated graphics, I perfer to swtich it up when I decide. Also not a fan of the touch strip. That thing is ugly.
     
  43. Phinagle

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    I can't view the attachments without an account but they might come from this Intel huron River-Sandy Bridge thread..and then possibly got associated to the M17x through this thread.
     
  44. GetFound

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    I remember reading that Integrated graphics were going to take a huge leap with Sandy Bridge. It looks as though they did. Especially in the i7-2630QM.
    The integrated graphics on my R1 wouldnt even run dual monitors...
     
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    While integrated graphics may have taken a leap, it wasn't that big (20K 3dMark06). Otherwise there would be no need for a discreet GPU. It has to be optimus, same thing as the M11x, where when 3DMark06 is run, it picks up the IGPU.
     
  47. WaR

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    I just found this thread today... talk about being late to the party.

    Anyway, I don't think the media bottoms are that bad. But from the pics, I still like the current design more, especially the front grill. This one seems more "delicate."

    And it was about time they put the audio connections more to the front. The current position gets in the way of my mousepad a little.
     
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    Still wonder if it will support USB 3
     
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    Also, I suppose this probably makes the 5870's the last cards for the R2?
     
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    1. I like the port placement more on the R3
    2. I dont like the media stripe as much.
    3. Rubber feet for the screen are a mute point. They dont protect it. So in either model you need to use a MF cloth.
    4. Screen looks ok, but the quality cant be confirmed by the photos.
    5. It is 16:10. That shape is not 16:9.
    6. 3dMark06 is not a good indicator of performance, especially if they are flipping around CPUs. Still, the numbers look impressive.
    7. I also like the sleeker design more as well. I just hope the lid is still the same shape and that it is still an aluminum/magnesium body.
    8. No gfx card shown would make me upgrade. Need a 570m minimum.
    9. I also suspect it has one less HDMI/Display port unless that tiny thing on the left is a mini Display port of some kind.
    10. More info at CES.

    My 2 cents, or semi rant :)
     
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