Pics for M17xR3(Sandybridge) and benchmark(you may wanna c)

I wouldnt say a 15940 is close to GTX 460 numbers. Better not be anyways, i'll be real disappointed.
*Edit - Wait, I am disappointed. Only a 16900 for GTX 460. They aren't supposed to be that fast anyways. I expect 460 to be low and and 480 high end with a much larger gap than 260 and 280.

 

Where did you see 20k for intel hd graphics? its 15k. Its not optimus its sandy bridge gpu on cpu.
20k is for ATI 6900 discreet card with 2720 processor.

 

I wonder if the reported wireless display will replace display port. Thats if display port is really not there, we cant see it all clearly.

 

When I saw the first picture,I was like "wow,even the intel graphics can beat my 3670" lol
It seems that we are not going to have any new models (not revision) anytime soon

 

My bad, havn't paid much attention to the pics

 

It would have been nice if they released this before Christmas lol

 

One never knows maybe later a 5xx card could be dropped in as well.

But I would be happy with a 460 of 470 GPU option with Sli.

 

Wow.

I hope they come out with a similar revision of the M15x by 4 months time. Because that's when I plan on upgrading.

The temptation of a sandy bridge CPU and an ATi 69xx or nVidia 5xx GPU is too much for me to resist. And I do like the new design. I'm one of the few perhaps?

I can't wait to see the new M15x (I'm damn sure there'll be a new revision of it for sandy bridge) and what sort of performance numbers it can pull.

 

I would think so ?

maybe the R2 will still be available ?????

 

Probably overlap the two for awhile like they did with r1/r2. I wonder what prices will be like. Hopefully no major hike.
I agree with Evil. I am looking forward to the R3 more than I was to R2. I'll wait to see a few production benchmarks, and give AW time to release with Nvidia 5xx. That will probably be a slight delay like 5870 was, keeps us interested.

 

I bet there will be some awesome deals on the r2 once the R3 comes out, if they keep the R2 running for awhile. the R3 will be overprices at first IMO

 

I'm afraid the R3 is 16:9. Just take a measuring tape and check the proportions, I got ~1,75 (given the accuracy and image deviation errors). 16:9 is ~1.77, while 16:10 is 1.6. The 16:10 is gone, guys

 

That's 230,400 fewer pixels my GPUs have to run.

 

i think the design is nice, but I don't really like the new positioning of the Audio ports...

 

I don't care about aesthetics, I just care about the leaps in performance from one revision to the next.

 

if 16.10 is gone i'm to ......


EDIT the screen seem liek it's 16:10 1440x900. When a screen is 1200 vertical it can fit 11 icon verticaly (unless zoomed) and a 900 vertical can fit 8 icon verticaly. On the picture about the r3 there is 8 icon vertically and eveything on screen seem to big so i bet its a 1440x900 scren on that machine

 

Yeah, it's probably 16:9. The horizontal edges on the screen side of the lid are thinner than on the R2. I would prefer 16:10 but after using 16:9 with the Asus W90, it's not that bad, though I'm much more used to 16:10.

 

Took me a while to get this angle (still isn't perfect but enough to see the difference)... and here it is... looks 16:9...

 

crap Alienware let us down

 

I'm hoping that the new AMD GPUs aren't a let down. the 5870s were not worth all the wait time.

 

The average length is ~12 cm, height ~7.5. The ratio is 1.6 -> 16:10. R2

 

IMO, it's a M15x with single GPU for both tests with new matte paint and the 16:9. The M17x is yet to be revealed.

/waiting for crushed hopes

 

I measured the R3 screen proportions on my computer and I got a ratio of 1.65.

 

moot point*

 

80% of this thread is the discussion 16:9 vs 16:10... honestly who cares as long as the screen is excellent quality.

 

Well, that's precisely it. A lot of people are worried because they have been spoiled by the current RGB offering. And since right now (at least) it has to be 16:10 to be RGB, the quality may be lower.

 

Have you taken into consideration the deviation of the length when measured at the top vs bottom? I took the average value (at about half the height of the screen, visible part of course).

Now, regarding the quality, I think it really doesn't matter if the screen is 16:10 or 16:9. The "raw" matrix is the same, LG and Samsung will just "cut" it differently and make the same quality panels for the laptop segment. HP Elitebook 8540w is a good example. It's 16:9, AFAIK and made of the same quality IPS matrix as the bigger brother - 16:10 8740w.
It does matter to those sick of watching HD movies with those black stripes, and it does matter to all the developers losing 8-9 lines of code per page.
So in the end, it's a matter of personal opinion and preferences. I for one would love to have a 16:10 screen.

 

The reason people are concerned about RGB LED (myself included) is because of how good it is. Just take a look, Anandtech did a review of the IPS screen in the HP 8740 and found the RGB LED still beats it overall: HP EliteBook 8740w: IPS on the Go - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

While the M17x screen isn't 100% identical to the M6500 (M6500 has profiles), the brightness, gamut and contrast ratio should be the same. The biggest difference would be the deltaE.

IF and that's a big IF Dell uses an B+RG screen and assuming it's 16:9, then it won't be as much of a down grade since B+RG is around 96% of the adobe 1998 rgb.

 

One day and I missed all that...

I hate the move toward curvy. I despise curvy in laptops, even in cars the new shift is toward sharp edges. Even though its still just a prototype it looks cheaper and more gimmicky then the serious and menacing M17xR2. I'm still glad I waited on SB, that kind of power seems like more then enough to last 2 years for serious gaming or anything else I could possibly do with it.

 

everyone smile

Unreleased Alienware M17x spotted running next-gen Intel Sandy Bridge chip -- Engadget

 

I will have to chime in and say that RGB LED is really the way to go. I had it on my 16" XPS 16 (Yes I got it before they scaled back to 15.6") and everything from gaming to BluRays looked phenomenal. It was the best looking laptop screen I've ever had the privilege of owning/using. Now that I've thread-crapped twice in this thread, I'll quietly exit stage left.

 

I agree with your sentiments but honestly, a 920xm with crossfire 5870s is more than future proof enough. Most games are built for consoles these days so all we get are poorly ported console games. MS and Sony probably won't refresh their consoles for another 3 years so any of these systems will be overkill. Anyway, if the R3 has no RGB LED and coupled with it's ugly looks, I'll stick to my R2 for a long time.

 

No disagreements there. In fact anyone with even an R1 is sitting good for a long time.

My perspective is coming from laptops where the best I've had is the CPU in my sig below (had only a t9800 in my M17) . SB will be a huge upgrade for me.

 

All future R3 owners should start getting their donations ready for Kevin (Throttlestop dev) so he can code TDP/TDC unlocks for SB. If not, then don't count on SB being faster than 920/940xm.

 

I don't like the curves on the R3 as well but meh it's so minor I'm not going to lose sleep over it. Going to have to see what the pricing is before I pass my R2 to the nephews.

 

All that is really important right now is the release date...

 

Profound words Joe.

 

Thanks for the support...

 

Safe to say: CES 2011, alongside SB.


Makes me wonder what's in store for the m11x. *drools*

 

x3 lol it about time I replaced this ancient R1 of mine

 

If I'm to understand this correctly.. does this mean that any notebook that contains a Core i7-2630QM running Intel's integrated graphics is going to score around 15K in 3dmark 06?

this blows the m11x out of the water. They could literally cut the 335m gt out of the m11x and just focus on putting this processor and intel's latest integrated graphics in ultraportable gaming laptops from now on.

am I right?

 

No. Not at all.

 

It certianly can open new possiblities having the onboard GPUs with Sandy Bridge, but how much trade off for portablilty and battery life can be made for the additional GPU power will probably be the deciding factor just how far they go.

I think it will also mean a good leap for the m15x as well.

 

I read the review. Don't wanna sound too defensive of the IPS DC screen or too offensive towards Anandtech, but it seems those guys were greatly biased and frustrated with the extra cost of the IPS panels. There's more politics (IMHO) involved than true curiosity and enthusiasm to get to the bottom of the situation. They didn't lack the enthusiasm when they tried gamut 1.8 for the M6500 to make the best of the screen (but forgot to mention that 1.8 is unacceptable for those who work in color critical environment. 2.2 is the standard). But they didn't even bother it seems, to dig a little under the hood of the IPS...
There are tools provided by HP, different profiles for most common modes (sRGB, AdobeRGB, Full/Native, etc), a calibration kit, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if they just used some fast calibration with a non-compatible tool wich resulted in poor measurements across the board. There was a guy in the 8740w owners lounge, who tried different calibrating tools and had a very poor success. Of all the tools he tried (Spyder3, Eye1, etc) only one worked to a desired extent. This area still requires some researching.
Funny, but 8740w DC2 owners report different measurements, totally different: contrast 750-800:1, AdobeRGB 126%, sRGB 150%, etc. I wonder why Anandtech didn't check sRGB? Could be that reviewed screen was flawed (it took me 3 replacements to get a perfect panel with decent white, perfect blacks and 0 stuck pixels).
As I already said earlier, the RGB LED TN is a great screen and should be more than sufficient for a gamer, but it's far from HP's IPS in terms of color accuracy and viewing angles.
That review is just another example that every review should be taken with a grain of salt. I wouldn't be surprised if $$$ was involved there.
And hopefully, Charles can make a review of his 8740w and post his measurements of the IPS screen to give us more info on the subject.

 

That's not ancient Dave. I still have my Area-51 M5500 and it still works great.

*Damn, I keep 'Thread-Crapping'.*

 

I was going to post some info that I just read in Maximum PC about the upcoming Sandy Bridge, but it's pertaining to Desktop processors. From the way it sounds, on the DT side integrated graphics will be much more potent than the current gen i3 and i5 processors, but it remains to be seen what will happen on the laptop side. Keep in mind that there's not a lot of room in these mobile cases, so whatever does occur it will be 'confined'.

 

I am very picky!
I hate the glossy plastic bezel that surrounds the keyboard and especially underneath the space bar! !

seeing how this new M17x is SOOOOOOO similar to the R1 and R2, I wonder if you can swap out the new power touch panel and the palm rest for the old one. After all you'll have a hybrid.. =D.

Old look on the outside and super Flicken powerful on the inside.

You can even fool all your friends =D


I wonder how the bottom looks. I hope that they keep the bottom as one HUGE @$$ vent =D

 

The new SB i7 quad cores support optimus so that's why the 3DMark06 shows the intel integrated. That M17x probably ran a GTX 460m or Radeon 5870m. The Windows Index Score for the current M11x only recognizes the integrated gfx. So that's how the M17x R3 got 16k.

 

From Engadget
"Of course, these numbers are supremely preliminary, but it sounds like Intel's integrated graphics are (finally) starting to pull their weight, just like Intel keeps promising. "

Yeah,jumping from no more than 2000 to more than 15000 3dmarks sounds right to you,right?
lol

 

I believe the rumour mill said there would be options for a 120hz 3D screen as well as the "usual" RGB LED. Since it is 99% likely the 120hz screen is 16:9 and we know the RGB is 16:10, it is entirely possible that both might come as option check offs, satisfying both camps. 2 lids or just a change to the front glossy shroud and that would solve the size differences. Anyway, just consider that it might not be exclusively one or the other but rather a choice.

Graphics will be the same way. Pick your chips, red or green, and enjoy them in games, which is what we want to be doing not worrying about who has what