Pics for M17xR3(Sandybridge) and benchmark(you may wanna c)

No but I'm half Sicilian.

 

This guy might be right! It's the next generation M11x!

 

Another noob. It is a joke that people still are thinking the IGP can do 16K in 3dmark06 when Sandy Bridge IGP with 12 full EUs posted a score of about 5500 points which is the fastest IGP so far but a dedicated solution will be faster of course.

 

Agreed, engadget needs to do thier own research.

 

A SB M11x probably won't be out until CeBit. Roadmaps show ULVs aren't due out until around Q2.

 

Where did you get your system for that price? Would have PM'd u but don't see how. Thanks

Alienware seems to have a $500+ brand sticker fee on every machine I see and that alone makes me feel I'm getting ripped off almost as if I were buying an apple product. I know all of you in this post that are current owners probably love your machines, but what would the most affordable solution be for someone who wants SLI in a laptop? I'm thinking GTX 460m cards or something similar? Is there anything under/at 2K? Thanks

 

I meant Engadget not you. Good example for low quality news writers.

 

Ahh, lol Guess I read it wrong, but your right, they don't do much of thier own work, just troll the formums for stuff others dig up. My bad, post corrected

 

You are forgetting the in home warranty and 3 years accidental coverage that you get for that $500.00 premium. It's well worth it...

 

The loss (speculatively) of the RGB LED screen (the 2nd best screen available for notebooks) would be a pretty big blow to the M17x line...

 

=>3D LCD with Full-HD 1920x1080, 16:9, TrueLife glossy panel
This is really interesting, do we have any notebook today with a panel like this?
It's different from the HP workstation high end panel right?

 

You can't even get a Clevo (hypothetically specced with a mobile CPU) with SLI for under 2k at the basement prices of Eurocom. You're asking way too much, especially of Nvidia who its customers know they have to shell up some extra cash. Also Joe is right, after all the warranty stories its pretty clear the AW brand name and the ultra flexible warranty that comes with it is worth the $500 and then some.

 

Would one of the optimus users please run 3dmark06 and let us know which adapter it shows. The speculations without facts are running wild.

 

Chicken little syndrome too. I highly doubt aw will get rid of the led unless they are planning a 3d surprise. Again, speculation since NOTHING has been announced.

 

Yup I'd personally rather have an rgb led than a 120 hz screen.

 

M11x benches shows that it shows the integrated from what I remember. Never paid a lot of attention though, but pretty sure.

 

I'm not bashing or anything, but have you ever seen a 120hertz screen playing a fast fps?

Trust me, you will not want to go back. I love my Envy 3D's 1080p 120hz screen. It is unreal.

Every game I have has the 120hz option, and running it at 120hz makes a whole world of difference.

I understand the RGB LED screen, but if you are a gamer - then there isn't anything better than 120hz.

 

I have used 120hz LCD's (and own a 46" HDTV that supports it natively) and was using >100 hz refresh rates back in the day with CRTs. Even if things seem smother because of a faster refresh rate, the trade offs IMO aren't worth it. Nothing really compares to a nice RGB LED or IPS display. Having a beautiful picture on display with vivid colors is far more important to me and many others than upping the refresh rate on a standard low gamut WLED that has gimmicky performance killing 3D. Hopefully AW at least offers a B+RG option for those that want to pass up a 120 hz display.

 

No offense to anybody, but I personally don't like the idea of a 3D laptop. To me 3D is a gimmick to get people to buy new hardware that has very little in the way of content to watch/play. If/when 3D gets more content, I might re-consider but until then I'm content with an RGB LED laptop.

 

Ppl. What about the performance of the 6900 gpu ?
Is it faster than 470m ? If so by how much ?

 

well...vantage is in 3d.. but ummmmm....it aint the fast thing in the world either..

 

I get about ~4500 now in 3dmark11, I wonder how absymal it would be with an R3 running 3D?

 

Lol. I love you guys! You guys make my day! Another reason why I can never go anywhere but here for a laugh=)

 

you would be lucky if you got 500 points with a super high over clock and a hope and a prayer.

i would try it, but we dont have nvidia chips..else i would take on the super slide show in 3D!

 

http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a458/miahsoul/m11xleak.png
sorry i was too much in a hurry dont' blame the quality.
THIS IS GREAT NEWS. THE PICTURES ARE INDEED THE NEW M11x.

hehe

 

I've zero love of 3D. Gives me a headache. The technology has been around for decades and every time it comes up as the "in thing" it fades after the few initial adopters buy into it and the rest of the world doesn't.

Now the 120hz screen is probably a very nice thing. And if it came with a RGB LED backlight and screen quality, I'd be very much for it. But the RGB LED screen on the M17x is one of THE most noted screens in the industry. Between that and Dreamcolor you have vast distances between those two screens and the next runners up. So unless that 120hz has some amazing qualities beyond the 120 feature, I'm strong in favor of what is still one of the very best screens money can buy. But if the 120hz comes with the RGB LED features as well, then it's a win. But the 3D aspect of it I won't every use, nor will I care about, ever.

Now mind you, as we all speculate on these things, Dell knows this is a premium product, and as such, often equips it (at least in the options) with premium items that fit the status. Remember when everyone asked for the RGB screen and they added it? That's the thing. So I'd expect that the screen options may well include that screen if it's possible just because premium buyers want a machine that is the peak of it's class.

 

*snickering hella hard*

side note:

just who inhere has a 120hz laptop screen to actually compare if it's good or bad..or is this all just speculations?

 

It's on the internet. It MUST BE TRUE!

 

I do. Now if the Dell RGB is the second best screen on the market, then I can also attest that I have played with a HP dream color screen. It's mind-blowing.

However, two different tasks. Gaming vs Graphics. I will also say that I did not buy my 3D Envy for the 3D......but I did so for the 120hz screen alone. It's 100% worth it for me as a gamer over a "IPS dreamcolor" like screen.

 

well now, some one who actually HAS one.

how do you think it compares against the alienware m17x r2 screen?
i know the screen on the ones at frys or microcenter are junk and dark, but then...they are not 1080p either.

 

I got 4000, how'd u get an extra 500?

 

Since when is logically stating your opinion in an organized format a "semi rant"?

I agree with your take except on design. It's an unsurprising progression for AW, but looks like they're moving to a much less suble design. It's too bad... the m17x r1/2 has a perfectly understated look. Plus, silver plastic accents ALWAYS look cheap, like a beautiful woman in mall-stand jewelery. In a nutshell, I'm happy using my R2 at work, but this design would be borderline embarrassing to bring into work. I guess we couldn't expect subtility from AW's top-dog forever. Gotta keep the kiddies with rich parents happy, I guess

A couple more observations on design...

I'm betting they left out an expresscard slot ( likely to both save build/licensing costs and for space). I've got a mixed view on this: although I don't use expresscard, I like having the potential.

Good decision on the spdif plug placement - they should be on the left (my mousehand often brushes against my headphones cable on my r2). heck with you southpaws

I don't miss the VGA port, good riddance, but this will likely be a problem for anyone who needs to use an older projector at work for presentations (which I have from time to time)

 

Is it not possible to have an RGB LED w/ 120Hz? Or can Alienware even incorporate IPS technology with 120Hz?

I can't really blame AW for putting attention on 3D, as all manufacturers are (I'm willing to bet the next-gen iPhone will have 3D capabilities). As I read from Gizmodo though, I was under the impression that "in order to do 3D competently, they 'have to do certain things really really well'. 3D sets are, generally speaking, the best performing sets in the product line."

Though in my opinion, if they actually are prioritizing the 3D fad over screen quality (if that is the case), I'm sure we can agree that it is quite the mistake.

Beyond that, I say screw RGBLED and screw 3D.. stick a 600Hz plasma screen in there and I'll be content x]

 

There is no notebook display that I'm aware of which is TN RGB LED + 120 hz or IPS + 120 hz. Either of those options would be great. Unfortunately I think Alienware went with the 3D gimmick so they can join the industry bandwagon and have one more feature to check off. That is likely going to be at the expense of picture quality. You may get less tearing in your games because of 120 hz and smoother mouse movements but that's really about it. If the panel sucks, it could still suffer from low color gamut, low brightness/contrast ratio etc. We'll just have to wait and see but I'm not optimistic.

 

that 120hz screen will tear just like a 60 hz will..if they are not using vsync + triple buffer.... as well.


side note:
memory is not the limiting factor here..the core is. the higher the core the better the score will be. you gain very very little by maxing the memory, but you gain lots by moving up the core.
(ran a 580 at 2500M and at 2200M - i gained a whopping 40 points - )

 

3D is NOT a gimmick when it comes to video games. It's an entirely different experience IMHO. Just playing a game like Just Cause 2 in 3D is mind-blowing (and I saw avatar in imax 3d, it was crap).

There's something incredibly immersive about 3d when you're in control of the movements of the graphics in real-time, as in a video game. I actually wish I had to cash to purchase a decent 3d tv. Unfortunately, I bought my TV right before they started making them (lg 47le5400).

 

The amount of carrot juice I would have to drink makes 3D not worth it to me.

I don't want to turn orange.

 

3D to me ust doesn't look right. Maybe it's my eyes or something. Havn't had an eye exam since 2004, but I just can't do 3D. Can't really explain it, maybe my eyes are not in sync. Just doesn't look natural. Looks gimmicky to me. And I work at Best Buy, so I see lots of 3D Display tvs.

Makes me glad I got the R2 when I did. Plus who wants to game with glasses on? Headphones, ok, tinted glasses? No thanks.

 

That’s the kicker for me too. I will not wear crap just to get a “3d like” effect. Hell I still have my 3d glasses from about 10 years ago, can’t remember what video card they came with at the time.

Using eyefinity is much more immersive to me, and more of what I call “3d”. You can adjust your screens so it’s more natural (flat) or more 3d like with more of an angle. Plus you gain tons of resolution.

 

A few people I know hate the fact that you have to wear glasses when watching 3D movies. Yet, they'll wear them during the day when doing nothing just as a fashion statement. I'm not saying everyone does this, but I am trying (poorly) to use this as an example that people cannot justly judge something before they've had a chance to experience it. I felt that way when the iPad came out; I hate the Apple OS, but there I was tapping away on one at Best Buy, going lololol, like a kid with ADHD. And, I'm pretty sure you'd smile a little if you played your latest favorite game in 3D... like Crysis 2. Cannot... wait... for that game.

 

Tell me, have you played a 3d video game? One designed for 3d such as Just Cause 2?

 

That's true, try it before you knock it. I agree wholeheartedly. Although the fashion statement thing is not a very good example. Just because I wear sunglasses or a hat out in public does not mean I want to wear them for hours sitting at the computer but I get your point. You can get used to it.

I say the same thing about eyefinity all the time (try it before you knock it). People say “what about the bezels” and the “side screens look distorted”.
1) Many people hardly notice the bezels, and even if you do you can go bezel-less if you really want to.
2) You’re not supposed to look straight at the side screens, lol, it’s peripheral vision – that’s what makes it 3d like.

 

It has come to TV just not mainstream. I've seen them at a few local electronics show. Heck, I even saw one in a French supermarket a back in 2005 while visiting. It was quite impressive but you had to be right in front.

The tech exist but the resolution is not good and I expect that major improvements are needed before it goes further.

Also, that tech may never go mainstream. Holographic 3D might come next...

 

Let's also not forget that one of the original reasons they gave up the "3d glasses" for movies was due to the study that it could actually cause vision damage. In order for it to work, you are actually focusing each eye differently, thus throwing of your normal stereo vision. I personally don't like 3d enough that I'd risk a lazy eye. . .

 

nice but why is intel graphics score still so high? Its sound weird as it beats my G73's 5870M? Is something wrong with that score?

Panther214

 

I am truly shocked that this thread became such famous.lol.
So waitting for this laptop to be come out.

 

actual pictures of the new m17x are quite rare. there's literally only one soure at this time. if you google image search "m17x r-3" it's just a bunch of images of the red r-2 at this point. even sites talking about the R-3's specs uses an image of the R-2.

this was bound to be popular.

 

Does someone can explain me how the hell is possible that so much score from an Intel integrated graphics? I have heard Sandy Bridge IGPs are much stronger than before, but I cannot believe that number. It's performance should be on HD5450 level.

 

That's because Nvidia's Optimus is doing it's trick

 

I'm late to the party but so far here is my thoughts:

1. I don't like the new front grills and the new design on media buttons. Joker said it all: childish (especially I'm getting a lot older since I first had Alienware)

2. The screen size is 99% 16:10 based on those pics.

3. Hate the not fully covered sides.

4. Based on Phinagle's pics on page 7 it seems R3 has slimmer black area around the screen.