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    Pics for M17xR3(Sandybridge) and benchmark(you may wanna c)

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by yyduinihao0, Dec 7, 2010.

  1. Benchmade 42

    Benchmade 42 Titanium

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    Is it just me or the hinges looks delicate and fragile lol. Why can't alienware change the design on them hinges, I mean it maybe durable and not present any problems but when you look at it, it seems like it is not gonna hold ;)
     
  2. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    neosis Notebook Consultant

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    Why would anyone care whether or not something looks durable as opposed to whether or not it actually is durable? This is too superficial for my tastes.

    As a matter of fact, I find it to be highly aesthetically pleasing to own something that appears delicate, but is in actuality, highly durable. There's a certain contrast to such things - you don't appreciate this?
     
  4. faiz23

    faiz23 Macbook FTW

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    wonder when the r3 will hit the outlet =p
     
  5. powerboy_ap

    powerboy_ap Notebook Enthusiast

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    VGA + HDMI on the left..
    HDMI on the right..
    Interesting..

    I wonder if there are 2 DisplayPorts behind :p

    Awesome speaker grills!
    Must...have...one...
     
  6. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

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    the r3 is looking like a nice edition to ones collection...wonder how much the extreme cpu will cost when it comes out.
     
  7. Chamillitary Man

    Chamillitary Man Notebook Geek

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    By it having one hdmi on each side, do you think one will be an input? I know some laptops have this. But I have heard that it doesn't work well with ps3/xbox. I for one would be very happy if it had one and it worked!

    Dual-link DVI (4 3D) would have been a better choice instead of VGA. They do have DVI to VGA adapters for legacy.
     
  8. Peter Bazooka

    Peter Bazooka Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't think that there is any way the integrated graphics put up the 16k 3dmark06 score found in the first picture (and referenced in the engadget article). I think that it was just a mistake on 3dmark not picking up whatever card was running.

    According to anandtech's desktop sandy bridge preview on what they thought was the high-end "GT-2" intel card that will be found in all laptops it preformed at about the level of the desktop 5450...about 3-4k range. Even if the tests they performed were on the weaker desktop variant "GT-1" cards that have half the shaders (or whatever the hell intel calls them now) of what will be found in this laptop it would still have a hard time cracking 7K.

    The Sandy Bridge Preview - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News
     
  9. Rooter123

    Rooter123 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Forget it. The big IGP with 12 EUs in a 2600k can do ~5300 points 3dmark06. There is no way the mobile IGP with same EU count, similar clock speed and a bit more bandwidth can do 15k in 3dmark06.

    [?????]????????????Sandy Bridge - ????
     
  10. TurbodTalon

    TurbodTalon Notebook Virtuoso

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    It's been a long, LONG time since someone said this. Agreed Sir!
     
  11. GetFound

    GetFound Notebook Evangelist

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    One Hdmi is for discreet out and the other is for integrated out.
     
  12. vzachari

    vzachari Notebook Evangelist

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    I have some info from Eric G. over at Dell-Lab.posterous

    Eric G. said...

    Thanks for the info. Looks like the forum member yyduinihao0 on notebookreview.com, has some good connections with Dell.
    Looks like the graphics core on Sandy Bridge is very good.
    Regarding the 17.3" LCD - there are currently 3 options:

    1. 2D LCD with Full-HD 1920x1080, 16:9, White-LED.
    2. 2D LCD with HD resolution (probably 1600x900), White-LED.
    3. 3D LCD with Full-HD 1920x1080, 16:9, TrueLife glossy panel.

    I don't yet see RGB-LED as an option. Will keep you guys posted.
     
  13. alstrike

    alstrike Notebook Consultant

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    Well they do look good, now where did I put the 2,500-3,000€ I need to buy it?
     
  14. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    So was the Engadget article sourced to NBR?? lol judging from who the credit goes to (vikingrinn), I'd have to say yes lol :p Good to see they don't do any of thier actual own work lol.
     
  15. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    the power of the gpu in SB is about on par to the 5450 dektop. With a capable system that card can achieve 29.000+ on 3dmark06
    XFX HD 5450 Review Page 16 - Testing: 3DMark 06 - Overclockers Club

    And guess what all the mobile versions of SB will use the 12EU part.

    The guessing game here is how much performance AMD and Nvidia will have to put in there to justify the price increase.

    The 5450 desktop has the same performance of the popular 5650m
     
  16. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    Look again.
     
  17. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    [​IMG]

    that is a 3dmark06 score right?

    This actually only serves to demonstrate how slow mobile gpus/cpus are
     
  18. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    I meant look again at the link you posted to the XFX HD5450 review. The score was 2939 at default settings. Four digits....ones, tens, hundreds thousands.


    Desktop HD5400 is the Cedar 80 SPU GPU, the same GPU called Park in the Mobility HD5470....and Robson in the HD6300M. It's about as powerful as the IGP in the AMD Zacate netbook APUs coming out.

    Mobility HD5650 (Madison) is based off the same Redwood GPU as that desktop HD5570 with 400 SPU. AMD's Llano APU will have a similar SPU count in it's IGP.


    Sandy Bridgge's IGP is still crap compared to the offerings from AMD and Nvidia and it's only scoring 16K in 3DMark06 because of the discrete GPU in that M15x.
     
  19. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    Yes I know all that but I must bow down to your sight, I really messed up the score!

    Sorry man!
     
  20. bumbo2

    bumbo2 Notebook Deity

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    not 1920x1200, i think i'll go with desktop
     
  21. Thierry19

    Thierry19 Coffee enthusiast

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    Cpu scores are not that high at all..
    I like the new design.. Two HDMI out is pretty much win :)

    Edit: Nvm, these are pretty powerful, wondering how much they are gonna cost..
     
  22. Joebarchuck

    Joebarchuck Notebook Virtuoso

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    If that is true than I may not buy it when it gets out. I don't understand why they would take the amazing screen on the R2. It just makes no sense. This is just proof that the man in charge of the M17X program is just a dumb .
     
  23. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Still thinking its an M15x huh ? ;)..
     
  24. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    I put that there just for you. :mask:


    Here's another hmmm to think about....in the desktop world the P65 chipset is the only one confirmed so far that supports multiple GPU configs, but it doesn't support any IGP. No PM65 chipset has been talked about yet so I can't say for sure it works the same way but if it does then the 3dMark06 screenshot running off the IGP would point to a single card machine.
     
  25. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Well it would be rather funny if it turned out to be an M15x after all the news sites across the web are reporting it as the M17x :D..

    The person who leaked the pics seems to think it was an M17x so ill have to say it more then likely is that based on the fact that who ever they got the pics from must have told them this is the M17x..
     
  26. WaR

    WaR Notebook Virtuoso

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    That would be funny. And I would consider it, but the numpad keeps throwing me off.
     
  27. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    The M15x should have had a fullsize keyboard from the get go because that thing is HUGE for a 15inch and i have seen smaller machines with fullsize keyboards..

    I have no doubt if they continue with the M15x(which im sure they will) it will get the fullsize keyboard in the next rev..
     
  28. 5150Joker

    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    I doubt it's the M15x. 20k 3dmark doesn't add up.
     
  29. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Unless it's a SLI/CF in a 15" form factor ;)
     
  30. Mazdaspeed_6

    Mazdaspeed_6 Notebook Evangelist

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    you know what guys, it could be the All Powerful M17.
     
  31. AlienContact

    AlienContact Notebook Evangelist

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    Let the M17x-R3 version 2.0 come out, this might use desktop 980X CPU! Or even I-9's
     
  32. Speedy Gonzalez

    Speedy Gonzalez Xtreme Notebook Speeder!

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    if the machine has 2 HDMI one could be input to plug consoles or bluray players ? :)

    Edit: somebody ask this already :eek:
     
  33. teuing

    teuing Notebook Enthusiast

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    hahaha yeah. couldn't agree more :D
    LOL

    It looks a tad bit slimmer too. nice.
    hope it come out soon in early 2001 :)
     
  34. Bytales

    Bytales Notebook Evangelist

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    20k 3dmark 2009 with a single gpu 6900 radeon series ?

    15900 3dmarks with ONLY integrated in the cpu graphics ? There must be a dedicated gpu in there for the system to obtain this score.

    You cannot get 15900 point on integrated gpu ALONE ! Or can you ?
     
  35. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    Adds up pretty well for a HD6970M based on Barts XT and an i7-2720QM that's as fast as the i7-940xm. I'd even say it could be low if that test wasn't run at 1280x1024.
     
  36. granyte

    granyte ATI+AMD -> DAAMIT

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    guys come back down on earth 15000 is the score my dual GPU system score runing 2 4850 and a q9000


    in short the system is not runing on integrated

    also 15000 is the score a desktop gtx460 get thus it cannot be the score of a single gtx460m it has to be a dual gpu setup using some kind of optimus. Unless alienware has a AW XTOC version.....
     
  37. Johnksss

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    yeah..untill they pull that card out of the machine...boot it up...run 3dmark...then post a score...it's running hybrid sli/crossfire.
    (speculation of course)
     
  38. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    I like how it's possible to give yyduinihao0 more credit for checking his facts than it is to give the same benfit of the doubt to some tech news sites. :biggrin:
     
  39. Johnksss

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    im gonna have to ask.... just how many 15" laptops have a full standard keyboard on them? that keyboard is looking a bit to big for a 15" system (speculation of course)
     
  40. Tazalanche

    Tazalanche Notebook Consultant

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    I'm unsure on exact numbers, but the Dell Inspiron 15R would be a prime example of a currently shipping 15.6" laptop with an integrated keyboard & number pad. I was shocked when the newer XPS 15 was released & did not have a number pad too.
     
  41. Johnksss

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    yeah...gonna have to say...not quite big enough (speculations of course)
    [​IMG]
     
  42. vzachari

    vzachari Notebook Evangelist

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    I may be confusing what a full standard keyboard is but if you mean one that has a numeric keypad then there are some laptops that have them.

    Ex:

    HP Probook 4520s
    Asus G50V
    some Lenovo's
    MSI GT663
     
  43. Tazalanche

    Tazalanche Notebook Consultant

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    I guess I do not understand your request then. Not quite big enough for what?

    The keys on our 15R are within 95-100% of the total size of the keys on our M17x systems (not just the raised part of the keys).
     
  44. Phinagle

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    Lenovo Z560 and G560. HP Pavilion dv6. Clevo uses their screwy numpad on the 8690. ASUS G53. Lots of 15.6" Toshibas with one.

    Plenty more out there.
     
  45. Johnksss

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    hummm, lets change that a bit.. yeah, i said that wrong. meaning it could be spaced wider apart with room on both ends of the keyboard

    ok..
    take a look at the picture. that is a 15.6" laptop

    there is no space on either side of the keyboard
    there is no space between the enter and the 4 key

    if you look at the 17x r2 and r1 keyboard..it pretty much matches the one on page one.

    yours is actually a damn good keyboard though and of course there is nothing wrong with it at all.

    mine is a cramped keyboard due to the sd reader and how they set the usb ports on the right side of the laptop
    but again...it's speculation on my part.

    and their are quite a few 15.6 and 16" laptops with keyboard and key pads on them...not going against the grain there either.
    your lenovo
    [​IMG]
    your hp
    [​IMG]
    m17x r2
    [​IMG]
     
  46. Quadzilla

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    Well he is the ONLY source for this leaked info so we dont have much choice at all :p


    As for it being a M15x, Phinagle is only saying that to be controversial :yes:.

    Maybe ill say its an M11x next to really stir the pot ...
     
  47. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

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    lol
    the under cover m11 huh :D
     
  48. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    It's not the only reason.

    I do honestly believe the arguments for it being an M15x aren't invalidated yet and genuinely lean more to it being a 15" machine than a 17".


    And we don't know what the connection is between yyduinihao0 and ChipHell. The original poster of the pics on that site was someone under the name Kessty, and were linked to in at least one other thread by someone posting under the name Song of God.

    EDIT: Plus in post #5 of this thread he says he doesn't know the specs.

     
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    phinagle... are you a practicing attorney?
    :D
     
  50. Chamillitary Man

    Chamillitary Man Notebook Geek

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    No Wait its a 18.4"

    Now thats just silly... lol
     
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