*UPDATE* BIOS A14: Overclocking Enabled

Dang it :[ i got really excited for a second. Oh well sticking modded A12 then.

Thanks for the reply

 

i updated also to A14. Are you guis sure that I will set to OC1 in bios it will not get "blocked"??
Because I blocked it 2 times before...

 

should be fine....the only thing to do is try and see.

 

Why would you use OC1 profile? All overclocking profiles from Dell sucks .. They just turn too high volts and uses crippled power settings.

 

I had to turn it off...when I tried to stress test the system the temps were all over the board...goes back to normal across the line without Alienware's crap OC settings.

 

+1 the temps weren't all that great for the speed increase which in real world use doesn't appear to be noticable at all!

 

No one should use overclocking profile OC1. It is rubbish. Use xtu and trottlestop. The processor does not get much hotter than default if you do it right. You can even reduce the temperature if the processor is good to handle a lower voltage at default clock speed. :thumbsup:

 

xtu blocked 2 times my laptop, that's why I am afraid of it....so anybody with i7 4700mq show me what they did...how they modify ?

 

In this link you can see some power settings in xtu for among others i7-4700mq. XTU - rho - Core i7 4700MQ Whether you want Overclock processor (adjust power settings in xtu) you can conduct a xtu Benc test and get a score as well as a check of the maximum temperature of the processor during this test. I have not seen the power settings for i7-4700mq but you can post a picture of your processors in Xtu. You can read through this link about overclocking a the Alienware..... http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...actually-have-run-full-stock-turbo-speed.html Only difference between a i7-4700mq and extreme processor is slightly different power settings and not so many choices of adjustments.

Edit: Do you know how high the voltage are in the OC1 profile in bios for i7-4700mq on Your laptop?

 

I went to bios....i enabled overclock...but the bios looks the same like A08...and I didnt sow the OC1???...I dont want to be the first to try....because I blocked my laptop 2 times trying this...you have a xm procesor that you can oc any time....so it is a diffrence

 

The only difference between overclocking profile in bios and xtu for your processor is that you can set up more appropriate settings.

 

I am still w8 for someone with i7 4700mq to show me one oc profile from his's..

 

ok. So I enabled OC1 from bios, 3.6ghz...3dmark vantage went up to 24.600...in the line of 4900mq....win7 score 7.7...

 

Don't attempt to overclock beyond what the Level 1 OC offers. You may brick your system. The MQ processors are not unlocked.

 

J.Dre do you know how high the voltage is on core at Level 1 OC profile on a i7-4700mq and i7-4800mq?

 

Nope, not the exact number. But it's probably too high.

 

I think it is 1.260mv on i7-4800mq. It's insanely. Even if you use Level 1 OC you can also use Xtu, just to reduce the actual voltage a bit. There are better and use the default voltage in xtu and instead add on a bit offset voltage.

 

If somebody will make a thread about xtu I will use it against OC1...

 

Did not you see the thread I posted? Read through the entire thread. The only difference is that there is used an extreme processor as an example. http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...actually-have-run-full-stock-turbo-speed.html
How high is voltages of your processor under load with benchmarks?. Use hwinfo64 for monitoring
The best way to test processor is using Cinebench 11.5 and Wprime 1024 (with 8 threads)

Main problem to overclocking profile in the bios is a too high volts. By reducing volts then temperature and Watt reduced. Then becomes less throttling of processor and you get a colder processor which keeps clock speed.

 

If alienware had allowed us full fan control it would alleviate the temperatures of the overclock. The high temps were due to not having a constant airflow like on desktops.

 

Dell advertises that Alienware is overclocked. But with throttled and poor fan profile ..

 

That's why I use hwinfo to control the fans!

 

Why are we forced to do this? :laugh: :cry:

 

So, shood i keep the oc1 profile from bios and decrees how much the voltage using xtu?

 

Run wprime1024 version 1.55 (with 8 threads) test and monitor temp and volt with hwinfo64 first. Use OC1 profile from bios. Download | wPrime

 

the OC1 volts is about 1.2xxx whenever i was running games.

 

Keeps clock frequency stable at max during bench tests like Wprime 1024 ?

 

I will test tomorow stock then oc1 and see then what can we do...

 

Here's one with i7-4810mq in a Clevo laptop. http://i.imgur.com/voOOUYo.png
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...q-2-8ghz-using-intel-extreme-tuning-help.html

 

I run benchmark test on wprime 2.10...and this are the result...So how shood I start now, I go into bios...and put overlock to enable and set OC1? or Bios...and then go to XTU and modify?
I cant put the image now, but the max core temp 73...the lowest 66.
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and this is 1.55 8 threads
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the vents started spining after the cpu reached 80 degress...until then sleeping...and when they started spining the temp didnt go over 72 degrees max core and low core 64
So, using cpuz my voltage is 1.210 at 3.4ghz...let me know if this are the steps
1. go to bios enabled oc and set it to OC 1 profile
2. install xtu and what to change?
at OC1 the procesor should be at 3.6ghz and I dont know what voltage but "big"

 

ok, so this is 3.6ghz OC1 profile

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what I sow, looking at cpuz, it stood 3.6ghz like 10-15% with 1.224v and then droped at 3.2ghz 1.151v and 3.4ghz 1.182v...room temp 27c, what can I do to
1. make it cooler at 3.6 ghz
2. make it stable at 3.6 ghz
3. without loosing it

 

from what i have been told 3.6ghz is only 1 core, all cores it'll be 3.4...using the OC1 profile.

 

Please do-not use that OC profiles they are stupid configurations from Dell, Every processor is like a human and behave differently with voltages.
Best is to PM papusan :thumbsup:, he's done a nice stable past 4GHz OC on his MX cpu with XTU

 

I am trying for someone to give me an advice
what to do, what to use...but...w8ting

 

this is how xtu looks, voltaj is only 0,040v over stock...

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My temps are like 4-5 degress higher on load, but idle the same...it can stay 3,6 but not for a long time 3.6ghz 4 cores...then goes to 3.5ghz 4 cores and stays there.

 

with or without OC1?

 

you can see on the right ...that is 3.6 so yes, is OC1 from the bios

 

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Ok, so I change it to bios mode... Not OC1 and what to change now?
ufff, nobody online?

 

stock benchmark xtu


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so from
core 34 3.4ghz overlocked to 36 3.6ghz
core 33.................................34
core 32.................................33
core 32.................................33
and undervolt -40mv
made also stress test 15 min...and everything was ok

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i give up, I dont know how to make it work...i put 3.6 ghz without any volting and the score is lower then stock...

 

My scores in XTU with the 4900MQ drop when I use the BIOS OC Level 1. Looks like it struggles for power when using all cores at max speed + its already running pretty hot. My best scores have been using stock clocks. I wouldn't worry too much, it won't make a big difference gaming.

 

TAKE PRINT SCREEN OF XTU SETTINGS and post in the thread. Should you test Your Overclock on processor, not use xtu bench but use Cinebench 11.5 and Wprime 1024 ver 1.55. Use maximum perfomance mode power options, not balanced mode. (Processor should be on max all the time). You can update to Hwinfo64 v 4.48.2350 is the latest version. Set up Hwinfo64 two displays volt (vid) When shooting screen image (see the layout of hwinfo64, as others in the forum use)

This is the right setup in bios (in extreme edition =bios). Put all the cores to 35. If it is possible increase long duration pwr limit (turbo boost Power max in xtu), long duration time windows (have it to maximum) and increase short duration pwr limit option (turbo boost short Power max in xtu) save and restart the laptop. If it is possible increase core current limit and processor current limit in xtu up a little. Set processor input voltage to 2v in xtu. Also disable processor Integrated vr efficienccy mode(disabled) and processor Integrated vr faults(disabled) in the tab other (xtu).
If processor fails to keep the clock frequency during tests, it is lack of power or due to high heat(trottling). Goes the bench tests well, you can reduce volts. Volt is equal to heat ..

 

OC1-2-3 profile bios has incorrect settings. This profile is garbage. Follow either my set up or use Mr fox's. (I'm not so good in English). That people get poor results during bench tests is either a lack of power or so it is either because of too hot processor. (Throttling)

 

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core limit is 36 first core, 35 seccond, 3-4 core is 34.
after I made this modifications....the laptop restarted and give me the eror...core limit is not good...and set it to 32.000A....insted of 112.000A default...I set it to +1000A
I set it to 115.625A, I dont know if it's good

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Dont like it 8 degrees higher...

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Core Curren limit may well stand on 112.000A. Seeing instability may reduce cache down a notch. Cashe ratio shall never be higher than the max turbo core rather slightly below(try 32). You can also switch from the default core voltage to 1.2V with adaptive mode. High core frequency is much more important than have a high Cashe ratio. Have you tried with 4x3.4ghz? A high Overclock in just one and two cores is just nonsense. Almost no software uses only one or two cores today. When you overclocking the processor then the temperature increases. It uses more watts under bench tests. Increased Watt = increased heat. You can see that you processor uses more watts under bench test when you have increased power to the processor. To avoid too much heat you can reduce volts. Increased Volt is also similar increased heat. Some processors manages a higher Overclock with low volts while others need more volts to be able to run at the same Overclock .. It is also important with a very good application of a top thermal grease.
Ps: Run BenchMe tests with fans at max speed (manually in hwinfo).
Edit: WHY YOU HAD LOWER TEMPERATURE DURING THE BENCH TEST WITH STOCK PROCESSOR SPEED, IS THAT THE PROCESSOR TROTTLING IN THE TEST..

 

I understand what you are saying, but as you can see...nobody wants to do something with this i7 4700mq...so I will leave it stock with -85v because with this it has a bigger speed and less heat then stock. I gain like 15fps in cs go

 

It's smart and reduce volt, if processor handles lower volts. Dell's oc profile only increases the actual voltage unnecessary. Several should have done this with their versions of i7-4xxx mq processors. Lower core voltage and a new and better thermal Grease reduces the temperature of the processor, and everyone gets a more functional Laptop. Thermal grease also lasts longer due to the lower temperature of processor .. :thumbsup:

 

thermal grease? what is that ...thermal paste? like clu? I want also i7 4930mx or 4940mx...games that I play need more cpu...I am satisfy with gpu performance...but in my country all the laptops have i7 4710mq...not more

 

It is the same as the thermal paste. Nr1.Liquid Ultra(clu) and ICD and Gelid extreme number two ..

 

If you check I allready have CLU, but I didnt change the stock thermal pads...and I dont have better ones here...how long did u use CLU? I have it like 6 months...and I wanted to change it