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    *UPDATE* BIOS A14: Overclocking Enabled

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by J.Dre, Oct 9, 2014.

  1. thegh0sts

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    constant airflow also helps here. don't just rely on thermal paste to lower your temps though it does.
     
  2. Branzy1987

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    Bad news, today I went to bios to check one more time oc1 and when I press f10 and the laptop restarted it went to dead...bios blocked again...this wasnt suppoused to happen!? It's a bios unlucked and I change to there settings...
     
  3. J.Dre

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    It shouldn't brick if you just used their default settings. You must have changed something or forgot to "change back" something.

    You need to drain all of the power and reset the system. Remove the CMOS battery, etc.
     
  4. Branzy1987

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    I just put it to oc 1....there's a video how to remove the cmosbattery?
     
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    I guess for that you might need to disassemble your system as the battery is beneath the WiFi card. And CMOS battery reset won't effect AW 17 & 18 systems as the NVRAM is not volatile,

    If the machine won't POST, this-- > by Mr.Fox
    I guess many people have said don't use Dell OC profiles...
     
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    Branzy1987 Notebook Evangelist

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    ALELUIA,
    so I tried with a small screw to remove the cmos battery and I did, I removed 1 ram memory and the laptop started and bipped bipped many times until restarted and I put back the ram....and now it works
    the probleme is that the cmos battery support it's not looking so good. I think I broke the cmos battery support....if the laptop works I need to change something in the bios? Or let it this way?
     
  7. J.Dre

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    It works for the AW 17.
     
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    What CMOS battery support are you talking about? And Branzy, how many times have people told you about not using Alienware OC profiles and yet you keep using them! You kind of deserve this happening to you! Before you brick your machine next time, use XTU!
     
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    Oh, I thought it won't for our AW17's
     
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    I've said it all along oc profile are garbage " do not use it"
    If one has the lowest rated processor it should be enough to take out a i7-4700mq processor and let the laptop started and bipped bipped many times until bios reboot and put back the processor. We who use extreme processor can use an i7-4700 processor for reset of the bios if we have such processor lying.
     
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    glad i disabled it then :)
     
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    USE XTU!!! Me and Papsun can't scream it enough!!!
     
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    Ok, that's it :( today i went to bios and put oc to enabled and set it to bios as you said and f10 the laptop went again in no post and I cant make it start... I remove the cmos battery drain the battery remove the cpu ... Nothing seams to work... I found something but I cant find the .fd file.. When win rar extracts it dont show tthis file using A14 bios... :(
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...covery-case-you-brick-your-m17x-r3-7.html#top
    Just to remind xtu was unistall there was no extradettings in my computer everything default...
     
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    that's no good! :(
     
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    Tell me about it :( no beeps...i want to try the steps in that topic but if someone can give me the .fd file that I need to put on stick to flash the bios????
     
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    Mr Fox guide :
    To correct a no-POST condition on a new Alienware 17 or 18, do as explained here:

    **Alienware 17 (Ranger) /18 (Viking) Owners** - How to 'Un-Brick' Your Mobo
    ◦Turn the system off and disconnect the AC adapter
    ◦Disconnect CMOS battery and system battery
    ◦Do a power drain (press and hold power button 30 seconds)
    ◦Remove all memory modules
    ◦Reconnect AC adapter and power system on
    ◦Let laptop beep until it turns itself off
    ◦VERY QUICKLY, WHILE IT IS OFF, BUT BEFORE IT ATTEMPTS TO BOOT AND LIGHTS COME ON AGAIN, INSERT A MEMORY MODULE
    ◦System will start to beep 5 times
    ◦Power system off
    ◦Reconnect CMOS battery and system battery
    ◦Replace any panels removed for access to memory modules
    ◦Done…

    This isn't the ideal way, due to the risk associated with ESD. However, it is the only way I have identified that has a 100% success rate for me thus far. I am CPU overclocking enthusiast, so I have needed to do this multiple times when experimenting with values that the Haswell CPU did not particularly like. If invalid settings get stuck in the BIOS NVRAM it will prevent the system from booting and this procedure effectively flushes those value and restores factory defaults. If the system refuses to POST, you have little to lose with the risk of ESD. Ground yourself to the metal part of the chassis and that will eliminate the ESD risk.

    Alienware 18 no POST - How to reset UEFI BIOS when no POST? - Alienware Forum - Alienware Club - Dell Community

    Post # 39 http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-17-m17x/751801-new-alienware-17-a10-bios-4.html

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...f-one-runs-into-no-post-messed-up-bios-2.html
     
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    I remove the ac power and the battery the cmos battery and do a power drain
    Remove the cpu and had a 7 bip for a manytimes in a raw and didnt restart... I turn it off and nothing... The thing is that my cmos battery doesnt stay on it place... It moves away...the sistem can run without a the cmos battery?
     
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    I think it will not work for me because of the cmos battery...doesnt sit correctly in the place... I want to try with the bios on stick ... Can somone help me with the .fb file for the bios?
     
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    I manage to do the all the steps
    but
    My cmos battery doesnt want to stay in place...so my laptop is now 1.1.2013...and I think is factory settings...
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    photo uploading
    this is how my desktop looks and wile browsing google dont let me google because my laptop date is not good I change it...I know that the cmos battery rememebers date time and everything...
    Now while browsing my laptop reaches 81 degreess all fans are spining at max speed even the gpu reach 62...and then there are stoping and come back to normal...and again the same thing...ufff
    I am happy that the laptop works, glad it opened...but not good what it happend to it, I am afraid if I try to fix the cmos battery it will go in no post again, It can?
    Now I see that my cpu has 3.4 ghz on 4 cores...that is not right...why? I checked I have A14 bios...but how I fix it?
     
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    I want to say thank you to this forum and to all that helped me 4 times to solve "no post" issue. Laptop works...I will buy a better one that doesnt need oc...Thank you guis.
     
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    What you need to do is not mess with the OCing settings in BIOS and OC through XTU!! How many times must we say this?
     
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    i dont want to talk about this, 2 times was because of XTU, 1 time I used oc1 from bios, and last time bios A14...so you dont have to say anything.
     
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    I am not reseting anything...let the laptop how it is...As far as I remember before the cpu voltage it was also over 1.2...
     
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    I've check many times, make tests prime95 3dmarks and the same scores then before the bios blocked
    So the 1.2xx voltaje seams a bit big but on full load the cpu take only 38w not even 47w how it shood be...so I dont think I shood worry. I hope I will buy something else. 10x
     
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    Under full load (A bench test like Wprime 1024 8 treads) should Your processor manage 55-60watt before processor goes down to it's 47 W which is processor TDP .. Not only 38W which is below normal at 47 w. Can not your processor hold maxs TDP of 47W under maximum load when is something wrong.
     
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    So apparently I did not know this, but undervolting apparently bricks alienwares. I've tried all known recovery methods for resetting NVRAM, with no success.
     
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    Which i7 processor do you have?
    An extreme processor are usually of better quality so it is easier to undervolting processor . Not if you are a bit careful and not undervolting too much.
     
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    techos, you did what I did first time
    follow Mr Fox bios reset methos and it will work, but it's hard work :)
     
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    It has a 4700MQ. Tried reset methods, none work. I wish there was a rep on here that could help schedule service. Phone support is horrendous. They are trying to get me to reinstall the OS even though I can't even turn it on -_-
     
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    There are some idiots that come with such filth chat .. Use Mr Fox's method because it works for most people. http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...f-one-runs-into-no-post-messed-up-bios-2.html
     
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    techos, when you start the laptop...it light;s the power button?
    Because mine it stoped there...and from there with mr fox method I could revive it.
     
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