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    When should the i7 740/840/940 be available?

    Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by spazma7ik, Jun 20, 2010.

  1. Ikuto

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    They're out in Australia. :/
     
  2. Game Junkie

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    Able to give a link? I noticed they brought back the core 2 settups on dells site, specs are very limited tho.
     
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    Hope so..But Im not sure whether I could wait until then..=-=
     
  4. Joebarchuck

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    Remember the BIOS update A06 for the R2 mentions the x40 CPUs therefore it is fair to guess that they are either waiting to deplete their inventory or have found some issue with the CPU in the M17X.

    I think at this point it is more a question of inventory because the BIOS is ready and most Dell laptop still do not offer the x40 CPUs.

    I am also waiting for the 840M CPU and a working version of the 5870XF before I order a new M17X. I do not think a cosmetic revision is coming anytime soon.

    Hopefully the XF5870 issue will be fixed with the 10.7 catalyst driver finally working on the system. I won't bulge on that...
     
  5. calvin365

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    I have talked to a rep in canada. She said m17x would get x40 cpus in 10 business days.
    I quite agree with you that current driver for 5870XF is not satisfying. Hopefully the 10.7 catalyst driver can be much better.
     
  6. infernia

    infernia Notebook Evangelist

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    Ugh. I just ordered the M17X with the 920XM like two days ago. Got a +20% discount too. You think the performance, heat, and power usage are worth bugging my sales rep to cancel and re-order? Are they really that close to being offered?
     
  7. steviejones133

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    Just wondered Joker, in your signature, you say you already have a 940xm.....how the heck did you manage that????
     
  8. 5150Joker

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    eBay has them up for sale. But you'd be better off getting a 920xm off eBay and just OC'ing that.
     
  9. steviejones133

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    Gotcha Joker....im in the middle of negotiating a "replacement" with some kind of upgrade ....have been talking about a cpu upgrade from 720qm to 820qm.....i wonder if it would be worth holding off on negotiations...

    Also, seen as how you guys are saying about "when will they appear on the web site" , now im from the UK but have looked at the US site and have seen that the core 2's are back....seems odd as i always thought technology superceeded itself and that the newer cpu's would be available instead of the older ones?
     
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    Also just noticed that if you choose core 2, then you can only have an nvidia set up......does anyone think that by way of bringing back core 2 and nvidia, thhat AW are steering away from c/f ati setups with all the problems people have had???

    Why dont they offer nvidia if you configure with 720/820/920????

    Just a thought, but unless they are steering away from 5870 xf , why even offer this core 2/nvidia setup??
     
  11. Joebarchuck

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    No the core 2 duo systems are the R1 version. I am not sure why they are bringing them back maybe they had demand for it!!!

    Nonetheless, they certainly did not bring it back due to issues since an M17X R2 with a single 5870 and a 720M CPU basically has no issues.

    I am going to wait but at the same time I am sad since I just received my 240GB Vertex 2 SSD which I cannot wait to use in my R2 system which I have not yet ordered... :) :) :)

    I won't bulge, I want the XF5870 to be fixed and work on the catalyst driver and I want the x40 CPUs since I am going for the 840 it seems from benchmark I have seen that the 840 is similar in performance to a non-oc 920xm therefore it's worth the wait.
     
  12. Game Junkie

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    To get rid of excess stock they have sitting around ;\
     
  13. TurbodTalon

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    They still want a Grand for the QX9300 though. AND you're limited to the 1440x900 LCD. Have fun with that, Dell.
     
  14. steviejones133

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    Given the price they want for a core 2 with max 260m sli, it seems ridiculous to even bother offering it in comparison to z xf 5870 setup with an I7 cpu....

    If it were a demand based option, i really cant see who would be demanding it....unless they are daft.

    With the newer cpu's soon, dell are now gonna be offering 3 different versions/families of cpu's which i beleive will really confuse people....someone at head office hasnt thought it through.....why give people the choice of 10+ cpu's???? - i know variation is the spice of life but thats taking it a bit far...

    Also, if its such a "popular" combo, why not introduce it on the M15x?

    Why not offer it in conjuction with x/f 5870??

    If people "want" this cpu, then why only do it with 260m sli which is "supposedly" (from my understanding) no where near as good as x/f 4870 or 5870......

    Now if they had offered 280m sli with 720/820/920, i think that would have been more popular given whats been said over and over about the 5870's......

    Just my thoughts spilled out on screen...i may be talking rubbish but hey, its a forum and if we didnt have different opinions, it would be a boring ole place huh?
     
  15. Game Junkie

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    I have a question, are the x40 cpus just going to replace the x20 when they come out?
     
  16. steviejones133

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    Well, if going by Dell practice, by bringing back older cpu's i doubt thhey will eliminate thex20 line....why would they? - i mean if thhey think that people still want the core 2's, they (dell), by their own admission, would have to admit that there would be a market for the newly superceeded x20 series....so why bother to withdraw them.....god, they arent even that old yet!
     
  17. Game Junkie

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    I think they brought back the core 2 just because they probably had an excess stock of nothing but R1 parts, hence the limited specs to choose from.
    Do you think they'll offer a different tab for the x20 or just mash the x40 with them on the build page.
     
  18. steviejones133

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    Totally agree....why even bother with bringing it back with such limited and outdated options.....its a no brainer as far as i am concerned.

    Really dont understand the logic behind this move Dell?? :confused:

    Someone said that maybe its because they have found a large box of core 2's in the back LOL....i have to be inclined to agree with that.... :D
     
  19. Game Junkie

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    Dells coming outta the closet...with some R1s
     
  20. steviejones133

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    Who knows, Dell seems to be a law unto themselves....i wouldnt mind betting a page will appear much like it is at the mo....choose to personalise with either core 2 (while the stock that thhey found under the shelf lasts), x20 or x40.....just a guess but gimme a break Dell, sell 'em on to someone who wants 'em.....
     
  21. Game Junkie

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    Just noticed they've updated the M15X, eta for M17X ;\. Price diff seems to be just 150$.
     
  22. steviejones133

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    Ive just been sat here doing the maths for us guys in the UK......

    Currently, Dell are now offering the x40 series cpu.....

    On M15x its as follows ( i have m17x so whhy should there be any difference)

    USD cost of going from I5 540 on M15x to 840 is $400usd = £260gbp.

    Current cost of upgrading a UK m17x from i5 540m to only an 820qm is £430 which equates to approximatly $660usd which i can only imagine bein even more expensive to upgrade to an 840 when they update the UK web site.

    I would imagine that cost to upgrade from a 540 to 840 on a UK M17x to be close to or more than $800usd or £520gbp..given its £430gbp to get an 820.

    So, what does that entail for the UK guy....well it looks like to get a 840 from a 540, its gonna cost UK buyers around double what it cost US buyers.....

    Yet another reason why i am p**sed off with Dell..........
     
  23. Game Junkie

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    Hey steve when was the x40 series released for the M15? Earlier this morning?
     
  24. steviejones133

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    earlier today so ive read but i am in the UK but thhe US site shoes it as an option.......damn i gotta get some sleep its 1am here LOL :D
     
  25. Game Junkie

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    XD, it would be nice if they update the M17X by tomorrow if they've already started w the 15 this morning. GN Steve.

    Does anyone know if the x40QM series is even on cpu benchmark yet, or is it "Q x40".
     
  26. Ikuto

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    The Dell Online Store: Build Your System

    There. They jacked the price up too, :/ it use to be 2600 for base setup now its 2800.
     
  27. nzgeek

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    I've noticed on the NZ store that the base system comes with 2x 500GB drives instead of the 2x 320GB drives that they had with the 720QM. This is probably a good chunk of the price rise.
     
  28. SOS4DELL

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    It's to hard (or impossible?) to understand the Dell's logic (if there is any :confused: ): why in some countries they already offer the XM940 while in other countries (USA!) they still offer just the XM920? :eek:
     
  29. Game Junkie

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    They usually get around to it in 48 hours. I wouldnt be suprised if its updated later on in the morning (23rd). It was the same way with the limited edition red color when it first came out.
     
  30. Game Junkie

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    ROFL xD the choice to turn automatic updates on is hilarious. It sucks they force you to buy MCcrap. Ty for the link + rep.
     
  31. SillyHoney

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    Anyone knows anything new about x40 on M17x?
     
  32. PeterMegahey1701

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    well the fact they accidentally swapped my 720 for a 940 might mean dell are starting to stock them.

    I'd imagine very soon.
     
  33. steviejones133

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    Lucky you, did you get to keep the 940?
     
  34. PeterMegahey1701

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    Yes!

    If they ask for it back they can take it, obviously without permission to come into my house or touch my laptop they could struggle. :D

    ownership of all parts gets signed over to the customer before the engineer leaves anyway :D :) :D :) :D

    Total cost of my laptop so far = £1206
     
  35. steviejones133

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    I like your style!

    Thats a cheap M17x , well done you sir!
     
  36. klemens

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    no youre wrong...
    the 920xm without overclocking perform very well than 840qm...
    and in some benchmark the 840 (Overclocking) almost perform the same with the 920...
    but still the 840 didnt even win any single benchmark with the 920xm...

    the 940xm and 920xm has a same performance but in some benchmarking the 940xm beat the 920xm (but not big enough the different of the benchmark score) and in some benchmark, they perform a same result...

    If you really patient and want to have a completely different processor...
    wait for the i7-960xm...
    its completely different from 940 and 920..
    but its just intel plan to have 960 as mobile processor...

    but if intel postpone the release of 960xm next year, then wait for the m17x r3 using a desktop processor...so that way you still can have 960 desktop processor...

    But if you patient enough to wait...
     
  37. steviejones133

    steviejones133 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    well, if you wait and wait and wait......you will never buy a laptop because inevitably, there is ALWAYS something that bit better with a few months....

    My advice is to go with the best spec you can afford now, stuff what may be coming out next year or whatever, worry about it when its out and enjoy your computing now...if its that much better IF it comes about, then look to change then.....
     
  38. Joebarchuck

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    Dell is not bringing back older CPU. The core 2 duo system is really an exception to the rule but I am pretty sure that once the x40 are here you will not be able to get the x20 anymore as they always have done so and you can check on the international websites that have had the X40 for over a week now the x20 is no longer proposed.
     
  39. steviejones133

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    Thats true, but why bring back core 2 duo as an option unless they have surplus stock of them? surely anyone in their right mind would go for an I7 over the same comparative C2D?
     
  40. Joebarchuck

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    Yeah I am not sure why. This is too me a marketing non-sense and I am not sure why they brought back the core 2 duo version. The surplus of chips is not the cause as dell will certainly not empty its inventory selling the M17X which represents such a very small portion of Dell's sales.
     
  41. steviejones133

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    What really does bug me is that the x40's are available in the UK in the M15x.....already available in Australia in the M17x but i cant elect to have one in a UK m17x!! ...... afterall, arent they all made in the same factory and then exported?

    My dell rep told me i couldnt have one which to me is nonsense, especially when im paying so much for a supposed "custom built" laptop....

    If i want one, and they are already being put in, surely to go they can do it...but oh, no.....not according to dell which really gets on my nerves....afrer all, i cant upgrade my cpu without voiding warranty and i want the best available at time of build....it is avaialble, just they havent rolled it out yet...morons.
     
  42. Joebarchuck

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    Just wait a bit they are coming. Also if you are looking to get a 940XM seriously get it from Ebay or here as it will be much cheaper.
     
  43. steviejones133

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    I cant wait as i have had to order a spec as a brand new replacement for my exisiting one.....my corporate rep wouldnt let me postpone the order till they are available in the uk even tho it may be very soon....no chance he said.

    Looks like i gotta stick with 820qm but its an upgrade on what i had so i cant comlain, just would have liked the latest tech in the 840qm :rolleyes: :(
     
  44. steviejones133

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    New X40 Series Cpu Now Available On M17x In The Uk As Of 12am 31st July 2010.....about Time.
     
  45. SillyHoney

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    But then you have to keep the OEM CPU just in case of warranty so...
     
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    True but in over 15 years of dealing with PC's I've never had a dead CPU.
     
  47. vradev

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    That's a bit of relief to hear from someone who had past experience in CPUs. Yesterday I made a rush decision and bought the 940xm ES from ebay for about $600 to replace the 520m in my new m17x and even though I saved a lot by not buying the cpu from dell, I started having doubts whether it was worth the savings without having dell's warranty. I just hope that once I install it, I won't have any issues with it and it won't die on me down the road.
     
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    I've got an ES 940xm, don't worry you'll be fine. I push mine fairly hard all the time too, they're rock solid. Intel CPU's are very difficult to kill.
     
  49. kookiesNkream

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    Just really curious, how were you able to get a 20% discount?
     
  50. xeroxide

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    and that's what makes it so fun to OC. ;)
    and when they do die, you probably knew it was coming the way you were treating it.
     
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